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[b] No description availableAnother one to ingore?? :)JA>42BBS Hants +44-1256-895106 Colin Fisher-McAllum, Sysop 021016,42BBS 08-16-1996,11:48:56 Jonathan Nott 0 0 15 0 NetMail 8 SYSOP 10 BULLETIN 3 42_LOCAL 4 42_NEW_FILES 5 42_QWK 9 42_MART 32 ATARIPHILE 11 ATARI_COMPUTING 7 ANL 56 DISKMAGS 17 N.MISC.4SALE 21 N.ST.COMMS 212 N.ST.COMMS.INTERNET 33 N.ST.USERS 13 N.SUP.ASSI HELLO NEWS GOODBYE ...you said to Jonathan Nott:JN>> I have only needed to do this once or twice, so I sent to theJN>> hosting node and it was readdressed. Worked fine.CF> CF> That's a good workaround.Soon I'll be able to forget all this nonsense - what bliss :)BFN, Jon---* Kivi 1.41a * "What's this fish doing in my ear?" 0 00-00-2800:00Michael James Jonathan Nott Re: DBA Diskmag 15 4 To: 42:42/0.0@fffnetHi M, ...you said to JONATHAN NOTT:MJ> Maggie's the one major European Atari sceneMJ> diskmag- well, %%%% %%%% %%%%%% %%%%%% %%%%% %% %% %% %% %% %% %% %% %% %% %% %% %%%%%% %%%%%% %%%%% %%%%%%%% %% %% %% %% %% %% %% %%%%%% %%%%%% %%%%%% %%%%% *** July '96 *** *** NEWS *** It's been a long time since I updated this News file... We are pleased to say that we have published issue #2 of "AtariPhile", the new Falcon FacTT File online [and on disk] magazine. The response is as good as we got for issue #1 so I guess we got it right! Well, now to the BBS news... First, after being so please that I finally have a CD-ROM online I am sorry to say that a hitch has occurred and the BBS no longer will recognise the drive. This is odd as it is accessible from the desktop. However, I will make all endeavours to get this service up and running just as soon as I can. More news on the hardware front. Some of you will know that the 28800 modem I use on the BBS is in fact on loan from a friend. Therefore I may have to return the modem at short notice and drop back to my own 14400 modem. Should this happen I will buy a 28800 modem just as soon as I have the finances. ITMT, Si Gardner has offered 42BBS the loan of his spare modem, this will bring the BBS back up to 28800 within a few days. So have no fear - 42BBS will continue to be a fast bps bbs :-) Don't forget that I have to take the BBS offline occasionally to do the "Housekeeping". Keeping regular file back-ups and defragmenting the drives helps keep 42BBS safe and fast - a badly fragmented drive is slow! Monday mornings I do the main backup so the BBS is offline from 10am until about 12:30 [give or take a little]. Fridays I do a little message area purging and derfragging just to set things up for the weekend. Usually this only takes between 10am and 11am. There are obviously not many sports fans out there in the comms world. Jon Hockley, who started the SportsNet message domain last year, has pulled the plug as he felt the number of people messaging did not warrant the time and effort needed to run the network. Therefore all SportsNet message areas have been closed on 42BBS. A network closes... a local echo opens! Actually 2 local echoes have been opened recently. To support his "TOS User Group" Paul Walsh now has a message area called TUG. At the request of Richard of the Maggie Team we have opend "DISKMAG", an area dedicated to the support of all Atari disk magazines. I have been having problems with the SYSOP.BBS area that I cannot fix. Therefore I have created a new area: SYSOP Selecting "Message to SysOp" on the BBS will automatically place your message in this area. SYSOP can also be used by 42BBS user to send private mail to 42BBS user. I will leave SYSOP.BBS open for a week for people to collect messages that arrive. If you want to respond to a message in SYSOP.BBS please redirect the reply to SYSOP. On Monday I will make the area Read-Only. Will ALL QWKers please [M]ark themselves out of SYSOP.BBS and in to SYSOP. If you have any ideas that you would like to see implemented on 42BBS, send me a message and I'll look into it. It is my hope, although you may have just popped in for a look around, that you will like what you have seen and will become a regular user of 42BBS. Colin Fisher-McAllum ~ SysOp ~ May 1996 fish doing in my ear?" 7 00-00-2800:00All Jonathan Nott Ch-Ch-Changes :) 00000006  Hi People,Feel free to object, but I have realised that the 'Classic Ataris' page is naff and serves no real purpose :-)I have decided to remove this page and replace it with a 'Personal Homepages' index.I said that I would never include personal h This allfiles listing is compiled on Friday 16 August, 1996 by The OCTOPUS Atari ST(e)/TT/Falcon Bulletin Board System using MAF v1.49 written by me (Koos Kuil) on Apr 30 1996 at 11:21:48 System Name..: 42BBS Location.....: Whitchurch, Hants. State........: UK Telephone Nr.: +44-1256-895106 Sysop........: Colin Fisher-McAllum Address......: 2:252/502.0@fidonet.org Aka: 90:100/300.0@nest.ftn Aka..........: 51:502/126.0@atarinet.ftn Aka: 95:110/106.0@fanfiles.ftn Aka..........: 777:200/6.0@fishnet.ftn Aka: 42:42/0.0@fffnet.ftn Only new files since the last 7 days are listed. ------------------------------------------------- File area: 42_Files, (file group: FFF_&_42) Description: Useful 42BBS bits'n bobs QWKBAK02.ZIP 18k 14 Aug 96 [2] QWKBAK02.ZIP is an upgrade to the QWK/REP backup prg in QWKBAK01.ZIP. New features. Backs up to any partition, can handle 5 backups in one day. Files can be backed up or backed up and deleted. FREEWARE File area: Public_Upload, (file group: FFF_&_42) Description: Public_Upload COWS_2.ZIP 13k 9 Aug 96 [2] Collection of cows doing allsorts of things. Humourous in the main FONE_MSG.ZIP 5k 9 Aug 96 [4] Silly answerphone messages FOOMS.TXT 20k 9 Aug 96 [1] Fooms: A short X Files parody. It's quite funny. (Has nothing to do with "Tooms" by the way. MPLYR133.ZIP 34k 9 Aug 96 [7] New version of the excellent M_PLAYER for AVI/MOV/FLx files Shareware MADPOET.ZIP 26k 10 Aug 96 [2] A program for making poems automaticcaly from a list of words stored on disk. Quite funny!! 42BBS2.JPG 16k 10 Aug 96 [2] Pic of Col's new setup for 42BBS 42BBS3.JPG 17k 10 Aug 96 [1] An alternative view of Col's 42BBS setup ROY.JPG 15k 10 Aug 96 JPEG of Roy Goring (cause he complained before!!!) :-) SICOWARD.JPG 14k 10 Aug 96 [1] JPEG of Simon Coward ... :-) CPX_CONT.TOS 145k 10 Aug 96 [3] CPX Modules for use in X-Control accessory program TENNIS.TOS 26k 10 Aug 96 [1] Full Tennis Game Atari ST (Medium Resolution) MIDI.TOS 18k 10 Aug 96 Midi Files (Atari ST) MIDI_2.TOS 29k 11 Aug 96 Midi Files Two (Atari) GEODISK.ZIP 124k 11 Aug 96 [1] This is a program for making strange "geodisks". The documentation for the program explains it more fully. Hi-Res only. XFBOHEM.TXT 3k 12 Aug 96 [1] X Files version of Bohemian Rhapsody XCAROL.TXT 5k 12 Aug 96 [1] Christmas carols, X Files style...... LABELCAD.ZIP 210k 12 Aug 96 [1] A program for designing disk labels. Very comprehensive and lots of examples to get you An alternative is my mobile which has an b> answering/messaging b> service - 0802 445666 - if no reply. b> b> You'd better let me know your address so I know where to send the b> modem! b> b> All the best, b> b> Regards, b> b> Brian b> b> b> PS Confirmation of the Titan URL: b> http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/TITANWEB/ b> b> b> --- Net2Net (3.19) b> * Origin: 42BBS fffnet<->demon Gateway (2:25/56.0) b> hat there is a fully English release on the way [it may even be out now]Installation is a bit of a sod - so I'll run through how I did it: o You need to clear the first 32k on your boot disk [you may need to use a disk editor to find out which files occupy this space] o Then run CBHDCONF and select the "Platte Installieren" from the "Trieber" menu, then select the first entry from the window-dialogue that appears, then select "OK" [what this messing about with CBHDCONF does I'm not sure but it seems to be necessary - according to the docs anyway]. o Next you must copy the driver - CBHD.PRG - to the root dir of your boot drive and rename it to CBHD.SYS. And that's it [phew! :o) ]Interestingly there seems to be another driver - SCSIDRV.PRG - along with all the other files. Anyway, hope you find it usable - I certainly prefer it to the GE-Soft driver I was using before. - Dan* Kivi (unregistered) 1.41a * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 462 07-13-9618:38Mick Lock Chris Bloy hello 0 3 *Hello mick i have got to grips with the know how.How do i contact Tony Greenwood? Chris Image House Sofware - The Stosware company* Kivi 1.41a * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 463 07-13-9619:43Domhnall Dods Alasdair Goold Re: WSAUG news 0 6 * started with. SAMPLES.TOS 196k 13 Aug 96 [1] A few AVR samples to add to your collection STGRAPHS.ZIP 300k 14 Aug 96 [1] urrmmm. Some old ST graphics I drew a long time ago. Some are unfinished but they are free to use in your games if you are totally desperate (you would have to be) as long as you only give me credit for the best pictures that you use. Simon Wyndham FASTBOOT.TXT 2k 15 Aug 96 Text file on how to remove the 3 second wait with the ICD Host Adapter driver. I tried the ICD_PSU.* file but it didn't seem to work on my ICDBOOT.SYS file V6.5.5 - but this file tells you how to hack it! And remember - allways back up your drive before trying stunts like this!! HYDROXID.ZIP 1062k 15 Aug 96 A new demo from Hydroxid, now released but previewed at Symposium 96. System Name..: 42BBS Location.....: Whitchurch, Hants. State........: UK Telephone Nr.: +44-1256-895106 Sysop........: Colin Fisher-McAllum Address......: 2:252/502.0@fidonet.org Aka: 90:100/300.0@nest.ftn Aka..........: 51:502/126.0@atarinet.ftn Aka: 95:110/106.0@fanfiles.ftn Aka..........: 777:200/6.0@fishnet.ftn Aka: 42:42/0.0@fffnet.ftn File area: Comms, (file group: GENERAL) Description: Comms Utilities OBANK110.ZIP 22k 13 Aug 96 [2] altered TBANK.SCR file ~ now works fully under magic. AVAL_377.LZH 471k 15 Aug 96 included. FIST241B.ZIP 49k 15 Aug 96 gateway.dat rename batch.txt --> batch.old etc. Many new features ! ANT7_9.ZIP 92k 15 Aug 96 [3] Antmail 0.7.9! E-mail program for use with STiK. LED_145.LZH 658k 15 Aug 96 1.45 *** Der MsgReader fuer den ST/TT/F030+--------------------------------------------------------------+ Jonathan Nott ~ Skynet/ANL/AtariPhile ~ jon@fffnet.demon.co.uk http://www.walusoft.co.uk/anl/ FidoNet 2:252/502 ~ NeST 90:102/166 ~ FFFNet 42:42/0 +--------------------------------------------------------------+/ANL/AtariPhile ~ jon@fffnet.demon.co.uk http://www.walusoft.co.uk/anl/ FidoNet 2:252/502 ~ NeST 90:102/166 ~ FFFNet 42:42/0 +--------------------------------------------------------------+ The latest files to escape from the Vogon Constructor Fleet are...F.NET.LIST FanFiles Nodelist Distribution ==============================================================================FANFLIST.Z94 3982 The Latest Zipped FanFiles Node List------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 3982 Bytes in 1 File(s)FISHLISTS FishNet Nodelist Distribution . Viele neue Features *** File area: Art/Graphics, (file group: GENERAL) Description: Art & Graphic MPLYR136.ZIP 36k 15 Aug 96 [1] Play sound in real time - French and English Total files listed..........: 30 Total size of listed files..: 3876941 bytes only allows ascii data. To send binary files (pictures, samples, program files, archives) it is necessary to translate them in some way in to ascii (ascii is a subset of binary). MIME was originally designed for other things as well, (such as WP-type formatted text, illustrations, sounds, FMV {almost like a HTML doc.} ) in an e-mail message, but it is still primarily used for sending of files.The binary-to-ascii translation is done by a protocol such as MIME (the others are UUencoding, BTOA {Binary TO Ascii}, SHIP, BinHex {Mac only} & shar {a little-used UNIX-specific method}). The MIME program (the best one for the atari is ESS-Code, which supports the 4 main protocols, or you could try SwProduced by Octopus Falcon, The Atari ST(e)/TT/Falcon Bulletin Board System. Written by me (Koos Kuil) on FidoNet: 2:282/397 309 08-09-9612:51Jonathan Nott Colin Fisher-McAllum Re: NeST 0 8 *Hello Jonathan, ...you said to Colin Fisher-McAllum: JN> When I get my point system running, what would setting me up as a JN> private NeST node entail, btw?Not a lot, but too much for me to go into in my current tired and still coldridden state. JN> Hopefully once FOG is running again, I may want to propose andI have heard rumours of this. Good luck. You will have to shake off a *lot* ofbad feeling. Rich has let people down, not once but twice!You should launch with a "Under New Management" campaign JN> P.S. Any chance you could fattach the latest NeSTlist to me (or JN> perhaps the most recent one you have). The one I've got is months JN> old!I will have a new NESTKIT here soon. I'll send you a copy. Regards Colin 310 08-09-9612:57Jonathan Nott Colin Fisher-McAllum Re: Demon 0 8 *Hello Jonathan, ...you said to Colin Fisher-McAllum: JN> All Demon's customers now get 5mb Web space free. Daron has been JN> able to use www.nest.demon.co.uk.I have staked my claim and uploaded a homepage so www.fffnet.demon.co.ukexists but it is not anything special yet. JN> Does that mean that we also have 5mb under www.fffnet.demon.co.uk ^^"WE"!!! :-) JN> How do you fancy creating a 42BBS Website? I would be quite happyAs I say, the homepage is there but I haven't given any thought as to what Iwill do yet. JN> to create and maintain it for you - you won't even have to lift a JN> finger!That is a kind offer and in some way I may take you up on your offer. For nowI am so far behind with the BBS/FFF/AtariPhile that I don't know what I willdo with the site. I'll think about it. Regards Colin 317 08-09-9606:59Jonathan Nott Daron Brewood Demon 0 11 *In a message of 08 Aug 96 Jonathan Nott (90:100/300) woffled to Daron Brewood: JN> I've taken a look at www.nest.demon.co.uk - nice!!Cheers Jon, glad you like it. JN> BTW, what do you have to do to maintain the site? Do you just upload JN> the files?Yep, and that's it.Daron - dbrewood@nest.demon.co.uk | dbrewood@cix.compulink.co.uk-+-But magic has a habit of lying low, like a rake in the grass.Terry Pratchett - Equal Rites. Alpha testing the superb Oasis II..... Official NeST WWW pages: http://www.nest.demon.co.uk/+--------------------------------------------------------------------------+| InterNet: dbrewood@cix.compulink.co.uk NeST....: 90:100/106.0@nest.ftn || dbrewood@nest.demon.co.uk FAN.....: 95:150/0.1@fanfiles.ftn|+--------------------------------------------------------------------------+| Falcon 030.FPU.14MbRAM.234MbHD.CD-300. NeST Zone Coordinator. |+--------------------------------------------------------------------------+|Psion 3a 2mb. Beta Maintainer of: The Atari portion of the Psion FAQ file.||Coder of Daily Diary & PuzzleWord for the Psion 3a. PGP Key available. |+--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 321 08-09-9620:34FFFNET Jonathan Nott Re: USR 0 5 *To: bstanton@cix.compulink.co.ukHi Brian, ...you said to Jonathan Nott:b> Do you want me to post a message in atari.st/for sale for youCool idea :)b> probably better if you can give me more modem details.Right....TKR 14,400 data only modemSupports v.42/v.42bis compression/error checkingIncludes line cable, power supply, manualOpen to offers!b> Shall also pass it to Al Goold.Ok Cheers, Jonjon@fffnet.demon.co.uk---* Kivi 1.41a * 322 08-09-9620:34Colin Fisher-McAllum Jonathan Nott Re: Area added/removed 0 4 *Hi Colin, ...you said to JetMail AreaFix:JA>> N.LOCAL.LINKS ............... [B] No description availableCF> CF> Please ignore thisI never got this msg in my QWK - should I have?BFN, Jon---* Kivi 1.41a * "Deep Thought paused for a moment's reflection." (42:42/0) 323 08-09-9620:34Simon Coward Jonathan Nott Re: MIME 0 5 *Hi Si, ...you said in N.ST.COMMS to Jonathan Nott:SC> There's a way round it ;-) but I'd get in trouble with Colin :-(I've tried quoting (adding '>') the entire encoded part, and removing the word 'begin'. Neither worked. What's your method?Of course I won't use it, as Colin might just notice a huge mail going through! But I'm curious :)BFN, Jon---* Kivi 1.41a * "Time blossomed, matter shrank away." (42:42/0) 326 08-09-9621:42Simon Coward Jonathan Nott Re: The Big Decision 0 4 *Hi Si, ...you said to Jonathan Nott:SC> Sounds like a reasonable deal.A *mega* deal, YMS :) I wouldn't get this type of value normally, but the guy concerned in a very good friend of mine.BFN, Jon---* Kivi 1.41a * "I could never get the hang of Thursdays." (42:42/0) 327 08-09-9621:42Colin Fisher-McAllum Jonathan Nott Re: NeST 0 8 *Hi Colin, ...you said to Jonathan Nott:CF> Not a lot, but too much for me to go into in my current tired andCF> still cold ridden state.Hope you are well by the time I get back from hols! This is my last msg sesh before I go :(JN>> Hopefully once FOG is running again, I may want to propose andCF> I have heard rumours of this. Good luck. You will have to shakeCF> off a *lot* of bad feeling. Rich has let people down, not onceCF> but twice!Hopefully this will soon be overcome.CF> You should launch with a "Under New Management" campaignOr "Rich is no longer involved" as a slogan :))CF> I will have a new NESTKIT here soon. I'll send you a copy.OK, Don't forget to tell me in the msg that there's a file attached,or I'll never know :~]BFN, Jon---* Kivi 1.41a * 328 08-09-9621:42Colin Fisher-McAllum Jonathan Nott Re: Demon 0 8 *Hi Col, ...you said to Jonathan Nott:CF> I have staked my claim and uploaded a homepage soCF> www.fffnet.demon.co.uk exists but it is not anything special yet. Pity they won't have a cybercafe in the campsite. Are you gonna tell everyone ???JN>> Does that mean that we also have 5mb under www.fffnet.demon.co.ukCF> ^^CF> "WE"!!! :-)Ok, so YOU then :) Quite a few people have an account on it though!CF> As I say, the homepage is there but I haven't given any thoughtCF> as to what I will do yet. I'll think about it.Being ill is a good time to think. When I had my oppo and my eyeswere tight shut for a few days, I did a lot of thinking. Not a lot elseyou can do :)BFN, Jon---* Kivi 1.41a * "I could never get the hang of Thursdays." (42:42/0) 329 08-09-9621:42Colin Fisher-McAllum Jonathan Nott Re: Hello? 0 6 *Hi Colin, ...you said in N.SUP.ASSI to Tom Thomason:CF> BTW, Please note that my NeST address, and that of all 42BBSCF> users, is changing with the next nodelist... Strange, I got a netmail reply from Daron which quoted my address as 90:100/300, so it's already changed? Can we use both our old and new address? Should I start changing my taglines to suit :)CF> Joe Connor will be 90:100/304.0 andCF> Denesh Bhabuta will be 90:100/309.0 So will all our points become private nodes??BFN, Jon---* Kivi 1.41a * "I could never get the hang of Thursdays." (42:42/0) 330 08-09-9621:43Colin Fisher-McAllum Jonathan Nott Re: Area added/removed 0 4 *Hi Colin,JA> N.LOCAL.NEW_FILES ........... [b] No description availableAnother one to ingore?? :)JA> Link was established to 90:100/0@nest.ftnAh, cool! We blink Daron directly now then ;-)BFN, Jon---* Kivi 1.41a * "Deep Thought paused for a moment's reflection." (42:42/0) 331 08-09-9621:43Michael James Jonathan Nott Re: DBA Diskmag 0 4 *Hi M, ...you said to JONATHAN NOTT:MJ> Maggie's the one major European Atari sceneMJ> diskmag- well, for the moment anyway...Hoepfully, we could soon see the re-launch of Falcon Update Digital :)BFN, Jon---* Kivi 1.41a * "Deep Thought paused for a moment's reflection." (42:42/0) 332 08-09-9621:43Colin Fisher-McAllum Jonathan Nott Re: Stuff 0 4 *Hi Colin, ...you said in N.SUP.ASSI to Steve Sweet:CF> Danny hasn't logged on for six weeks so I don't know if he isCF> still supporting his scheme through 42BBS.Have you noticed any of Dannys support.txts kicking around, as the current update on the BBS is dated around May!:) Jon---* Kivi 1.41a * 333 08-07-9620:25Jonathan Nott Mick Lock Re: For Sale Items. 0 3 *In a message of <06.08.96>, Jonathan Nott (42:42/0) writes: JN> I've found a suitable Jiffy bag (from my collection of about 100 JN> old ones!!), but I'll add some bubble wrap to be sure.Cheque in the post tomorrow Jonathan.Mick 334 08-09-9601:43Jonathan Nott Harry Sideras Re: FOG 0 38 **Hi Jonathan*, on 07 Aug 96 you wrote: ...iranooohhhh HS>> He always neglected FOG from how I saw it... JN> We must understand that during most of FOG's life, Rich was busying JN> away at Uni. I suppose he shouldn't have taken on something he JN> couldn't fully commit to though.I did understand that, but the end result, as you said, is that people willcomplain because they found it unreliable. I'm very conscious of not pushingmyself beyond what I can achieve because I know the reputation it can get. It's kind of a big issue with me, as you can tell HS>> What do you see as its purpose then? Over and above what FFF do, HS>> that is. JN> I wouldn't like to think that I would be in competiton with FFF - As JN> you know I'm good friends with Col and Kev, and I'll even still be JN> writing for AtariPhile when I take over FOG :)Sure - I meant as a different angle so that there wasn't any form ofcompetition. JN> FOG is and always will be different to the FFF. The FFF is based JN> around the NameNet system and AtariPhile - an HTML magazine. The PD JN> library has always been the forefront of FOG, and I'll be having the JN> entire 500+ disks and adding to it as software becomes available. Rich JN> always used to be the first to stock new demos and diskzines like JN> Maggie, etc - I'll carry on in this fashion.Sounds good. JN> Depending on how many of the old members I round up, I'll hopefully JN> re-start the infamous 'Falcon Update Digital' magazine. Rich never JN> released issue ten, so this will probably be the first re-launch JN> issue. We have an excellent shell (even nicer than the Maggie or DBA JN> ones) which no-one has yet seen to date.And again. JN> Of course if the FOG CD gets published I'll coordinate the JN> distribution of it. The difficult thing here will be cash - we'll JN> have to get members to pay in advance or we can't afford to get the JN> copies made.That's always a stumbling block... JN> Finally, I'll keep a database of members. Probably not with Namenet, JN> but something like Addresse or Da Capo instead. JN> JN> So, there'll be a lot going on - but with different objectives than JN> the FFF.Ok, that's fair enough. I have to admit I never really understood what FOGdid - partly because I'm not a Falcon owner - so I appreciate the info. HS>> There'll inevitable a certain amount of apprehension and even ill- HS>> feeling I expect, because Rich stopped and started a few times and HS>> was always difficult to locate. How do you expect to overcome this HS>> and are you sure you won't fall into the same easy trap that he did? JN> Well, at only 16 I'm not due for Uni for two years yet :)) I'll try JN> as hard as I can to make sure the group survives and the members are JN> supported - you can't do much more than that .I guess so. A bit of a stupid question really I'm just saying that it'll be an 'issue' so expect to hear that kind ofreaction to some extent. JN>>> I take it I'll be able to join the AAUG? HS>> Certainly if it actually gets off the ground again. While I'm happy HS>> to list *any* group that supports users, I'm reluctant to continue to HS>> list a 'disreputable' group and will approach any that seem to be HS>> heading that way. Do you think you have the stamina?!Gad, that sounded heavy-handed! Sorry about that. JN> Once I take over FOG I'll never again be 'disreputable' again! I'll JN> make sure I keep users imformed on everything. If worst comes to worst JN> (which it will have to *some time*), I'll officially close the group, JN> and not just fade away like Rich did.Yup, it's important to say that the group's finished rather than leave ithanging. The thing is that Richard mailed me not too lng ago to say that hewas still going strong, so that was a bit disappointing as you'll appreciate. JN> The problem recently was that Rich brought a 2600 PC - need I say JN> more???No, not really... HS>> Keep me informed about how you're getting on and I'll be able to give HS>> some moral support at least. Have you got the AAUG directory? I HS>> think not. JN> I haven't got the AAUG directory - Where can I get it from?? If you JN> were feeling charitable you could privately upload it to Colin on JN> 42BBS and ask him to forward it to me. Or has Colin got it already???I know Colin's got access to it, but it'd be better if I uploaded it intoFANFILES tbh. I don't think there's a previous one available atm. HS>> There's some good advice on running user groups hiding in there. JN> Just what I need :~))Don't we all!Regards,HarryUK Association of Atari User Groups 335 08-07-963:27:Jonathan Nott Rob Cooper Re: Hardware wanted 0 7 *Originally to Rob Cooper in area N.MISC.4SALE: > Hi Rob, ...you said to All: > > RCRC I have a 512k STfm with an unfitted 1meg upgrade. The upgrade will > need a couple of little adaptors and a bit of soldering. The mouse > port may also need re-soldering. > > I expect The Upgrade Shop can fit the upgrade and re-solder the mouse > port for a cheap price. > > You can buy the machine and upgrade from me for peanuts - say 20 ?? > > BFN, Jon > > * Kivi 1.41a * Skimming the networks from 42BBS (90:102/166) > Thanks Jonathon but I'd rather go for one that I can just plug in and gofrom the start. Cheers for your message though.Rob--- T-Mail v3.53 337 08-09-9620:56Jonathan Nott Martin Stacey Re: NeST 0 12 * CF>> As you may have heard, Chameleon BBS is winding down prior to CF>> closing. This is sad news, but Martin is not deserting us. JN> JN> I take it you're still running Walu and the website, yeah?? JN> JN> Will you still point off 42BBS, or are you leaving the BBS comms JN> scene all together?Hi JonThe web site remains.Walusoft is a commercial concern and makes an annual profit that enables me to provide the service I do to yourself and a few others at eithernil or very little cost.The Web Site, unlike the BBS, is not managed by me alone.The changes in my daytime job will place an incresed load on my time andrescources which has to come from somewhere. To spend less time with myfamily, where the wife has long sinced ranted about the time spent oncomputers, would probably push my marriage over the brink and thats somethingI do not intend to let happen.So rather than let the BBS decline into a mess I have reluctently opted toshut down a thriving and well used system.I do intend to maintain a skeleton system and will be keeping in touchvia Colins BBS although will be considerable less active in the commsscene than I have been.-- The Chameleon BBS Email :Martin Stacey +44-(0)1454-881095 mstacey@rdl.co.uk mas@walusoft.demon.co.uk http://www.walusoft.co.uk/ 360 08-10-9600:03Jonathan Nott Simon Coward Re: MIME 0 8 *In a message of 09 Aug 96 Jonathan Nott (42:42/0) wrote to Simon Coward: JN> I've tried quoting (adding '>') the entire encoded part, and JN> removing the word 'begin'. Neither worked. What's your method? JN>The fact that you've tried is a reason not to say. These limits were put infor good reasons, not least to protect sysops phone bils. Remember the scanwill check the length of a message as well as what it is. It's often aproblem on the NET as some people have limited message sizes on theirmailboxes so things like this are often choppped into bits.I advise you not to mess with these things though as getting it wrong, iegetting the mesage halfwy through will cause a major mess. I know becauseI've had to have Zetnet clean out mu mailbox after some "odd" messages.regards Simon 361 08-10-9610:46Jonathan Nott Simon Coward Re: The Big Decision 0 6 *In a message of 09 Aug 96 Jonathan Nott (42:42/0) wrote to Simon Coward: JN> A *mega* deal, YMS :) I wouldn't get this type of value normally, JN> but the guy concerned in a very good friend of mine. JN>I was very fortunate, I paid 350 for a 4mb Falcon which came with a 1mb STfmas well as enough boxes of software and games to fill the back of my van. Hewas asking 650 and I thought I'd try my luck and it payed off. I still thinkyour getting good value for miney as I was prepared to buy a new Falcon ifneccasary. I don't regret buying this machuine in the slightest.regards Simon 374 08-10-9623:04Jonathan Nott mas@walusoft.demon.co.uk august 0 3 *FROM: mas@walusoft.demon.co.uk (Martin Stacey)Organization: WalusoftReply Index No: 8414anl august update now online--- Net2Net (3.19) * Origin: 42BBS fffnet<->demon Gateway (2:25/56.0) 375 08-11-9614:00Jonathan Nott winston@worldonline.nl Internet 0 6 *This message was originally addressed to JON on 2:252/502.0@fidonet.org andwas re-addressed by 2:252/502@fidonet.orgFROM: winston@worldonline.nl (Winston Chu)Reply Index No: 8415Dear sir,My cousin has a Atari ST where he make his music proffesionally. He was wondering if it's possible to e-mail/browse on the Atari, so Iwandered through all the sites but there's no info/software how to do that!But I myself don't know much about Atari's and my cousin only uses hismusic programs.Can you please help me/us ?Yours trulyWinston--- Net2Net (3.19) * Origin: 42BBS fffnet<->demon Gateway (2:25/56.0) 428 08-12-9621:47Jonathan Nott frank@support.tachyon.co.Re: Press Release 0 12 *This message was originally addressed to JON on 2:252/502.0@fidonet.org andwas re-addressed by 2:252/502@fidonet.orgFROM: frank@support.tachyon.co.uk (Frank Charlton)Reply Index No: 8613Hi Jon,>It always replaces obscure characters with codes, and there's an "=" >at the end of each line of your mails :)Now that doesn't happen with Atari mailers normally. I've received mail from myself with Oasis and Antmail, and it doesn't do this. Another bug in Net2Net, possibly?>Yeah, it's Rich Karsmakers in the September update, then you're next !No problem. Let me have the list of interview questions when you're ready and I'll get back to you asap.>They are taking their time :-( Rich Davey informed me that you're I know, but Dan wants to get CSLIP actually working before he tangles with PPP. A large portion of the code actually exists from Steve's original work, and Dan says PPP should be easy to implement once CSLIP is 100%.>Netkonect's Atari guy. Will be able to sort me out with a working >STiK dial script when the time comes??I certainly will, no problems on that front.ATB, Frank.Tachyon Communications - http://www.netkonect.net/tachyon/* Web Design * Technical Support * Freelance Journalism *"Who programs the programmer?" - David Zindell, "Neverness"--- Net2Net (3.19) * Origin: 42BBS fffnet<->demon Gateway (2:25/56.0) 482 08-14-9616:01Jonathan Nott mille@tripnet.se Form posted from Mozilla 0 4 *FROM: mille@tripnet.se (Mille Babic)Organization: PrivateReply Index No: 8740ANLRegister=Mille+Babic&EmailAdr=mille@tripnet.se&Computer=Atari+Falcon&CA%3F=Yes&IAP=Tripnet+AB%2C+Sweden.&Opinion=75%25&Where=Last+Issue+of+ST+Format--- Net2Net (3.19) * Origin: 42BBS fffnet<->demon Gateway (2:25/56.0) 483 08-14-9616:10Jonathan Nott mille@tripnet.se Form posted from Mozilla 0 6 *FROM: mille@tripnet.se (Mille Babic)Organization: PrivateReply Index No: 8741ANLNewWeb=Mille+Babic&EmailAdr=mille@tripnet.se&SiteName=Mille%27s+Atari+Hmpage&URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tripnet.se%2F%7Emille&Descr=Atari+Internet+Acces+Pack+and+all+the%0D%0ASTiK-related+software+for+download.%0D%0APictures+f+the+GEM+Internet+Programs.%D%0ARegister+programs+for+implementation+in+The%0D%0AAtari+Ifopages+%28AIP29.%0D%0AGerman%2C+English%2C+Croatian+and+Swedish%0D%0Alanguage.%0D%0A180Hits%2FWeek...--- Net2Net (3.19) * Origin: 42BBS fffnet<->demon Gateway (2:25/56.0) 193 08-09-9621:42Colin Fisher-McAllum Jonathan Nott Re: Private uploaded file 0 4 *Hi Col, ...you said to Jonathan Nott:JN>> Filename: A_ONLINE.LZHCF> I'll comment on your OnlinePhile later... when I have read itArgh, I hope you like it :+}BFN, Jon* Kivi 1.41a * "Deep Thought paused for a moment's reflection." (42:42/0)--- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 376 08-09-9620:34Paul Walsh Jonathan Nott Re: Hello 0 15 *Hi Paul, ...you said to Robert Goldsmith:PW> I send netmail by writing a message to area 0 and choosingPW> private message :-)Although this does work - it's *very* naughty!! It's OK to do this if replying to a 42BBS user - they will just be posted locally. If you want to write to anyone outside of this BBS, you *must* add an address in the 'Address' line.When writing to a 42BBS user, you should also use an address. To post to a BBS user, use: 42:42/0.0@fffnet Or if writing to a point, add the point number too. For example, Roy Goring is 14: 42:42/14.0@ffnetPW> If you want to send a message on FidoNet (or NeST or whatever)PW> just 'reply' to the message you are reading and it will go viaPW> 42BBS via the appropriate message area :-)I do not understand what you mean here Paul - it doesn't make sense!If you want to reply to an echomail (perhaps N.ST.USERS) message via NetMail, you should change the area number to 0 and *add the address* (you can find this in the 'Origin' line of a message).You should take the time to *always* add an address in NetMails. Your strange method works OK for locally posted netmail, but soon you could start causing problems if netmail is wrongly addressed!!!If NetMail is addressed properly you don't need 'Private message' selected - it'll only go to that one user anyway.PW> I think you can configure KIVI to alter the quotes initials so youPW> could put a symbol or first name or whatever instead :-)Not True - you can only change the character that comes *after* the initials!BFN, Jon* Kivi 1.41a * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 377 08-09-9620:34Paul Walsh Jonathan Nott Re: Oh can't we now! 0 4 *Hi Paul, ...you said to Roy Goring:PW> You are forgetting SOL and Photochrome }:->Only PChrome can view TGA, though ???I've uploaded PCHRM4.LZH which is the latest version.BFN, Jon* Kivi 1.41a * "I could never get the hang of Thursdays." (42:42/0)--- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 378 08-09-9620:34Chris Bloy Jonathan Nott Re: ST Format 0 4 *Hi Chris, ...you said to Jonathan Nott:CB> You better turn up, you know what Micks like! :-)I'll see if I get up in time |-)BFN, Jon* Kivi 1.41a * "Time blossomed, matter shrank away." (42:42/0)--- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 379 08-09-9620:35All Jonathan Nott Bye 0 3 *Hi Folks,I'm off campingSee y'all in a week :)BFN, Jon* Kivi 1.41a * Strictly no dancing naked in poppy fields, though!--- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 380 08-09-9621:32Roy Goring Robert Goldsmith Hello 0 5 *Robert Goldsmith wrote to Roy Goring:RG> You will find a Netmail from me as soon as you join the netmail area :-)RG> Found, thanks. You may find a reply in the near future, if I can get thingsworking. Otherwise, you may find another message with lots of *'s and a desperate plea for help :)Robert Goldsmith<< Falcon 030 for ever >>42:42/0@FFFnet 2:252/502.0@FidoNet* Kivi (unregistered) 1.41a * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 381 08-09-9621:32All Robert Goldsmith A text editor for kivi 0 8 *Hi AllAfter using Kivi QWK for a while now, I have still not been verysuccessful in finding a text editor for use with Kivi under Magic.Many of the editors don't M-Task and one of my best liked editors,SpiritEd, hangs when you try to use the menu (Or at least my versiondid). :-(Is there anyone out there using Kivi under Magic that can point to a good, MTasking editor that does not suck huge amounts of memory butallows you to write messages?I'm currently stuck with the HS Basic Editor, a bit over the top butit has the least (I didn't say no) problems under Magic when used withKivi :-)Any help would be of great use :)Robert Goldsmith<< Falcon 030 for ever >>42:42/0@FFFnet 2:252/502.0@FidoNet* Kivi (unregistered) 1.41a * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 382 08-09-9621:32Roy Goring Robert Goldsmith re: Hello 0 14 *Robert Goldsmith wrote to Jonathan Nott and Roy GoringSo, let me get this straight, to send a "public" message, write a replyas normal. To write a private message, put it in the NetMail messagearea with an address. This bbs's fffnet address is 42:42/... and anyone without a point uses 0.0@fffnet. people with points, eg Roy Goringuse another number, ie 14.0@fffnet, in this case.This bbs's fidonet address is 2:256/502.0@fidonet and points don't getspecial treatment. I assume NeST is similar in opperation. The Fidonetmessages have to be put in the fidonet message area and NeST messages inthe NeST area.OK. Why have three message systems? What is the best? Which is fastest?Which is used by the most BBS's and which is used most by non AtariBBS's, (I have friends who own ex-commodore - ex-Escom/Amega Technologys - (Now) Viscom Amega's :) ):)JN> JN> Download my NetMail help file from the bulletins menu for more.JN> Will do, as soon as I can.(Have already downloaded the New User stuff)JN> Email addresses are only given to regular users of this BBS who have JN> proven that they can send NetMail and will make use of the system. You JN> must ask Colin and he'll set you up and give you my helpfile on how to JN> send email.Working on it :) Today netmail, tomorrow the world...Any chance on agreeing on this lot? Oh and are the addresses below OK?One last thing, what does the "Private" button in Kivi do? Robert Goldsmith<< Falcon 030 for ever >>42:42/0@FFFnet 2:252/502.0@FidoNet* Kivi (unregistered) 1.41a * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 383 08-09-9621:33Jonathan Nott Robert Goldsmith re: Hello 0 15 *Robert Goldsmith wrote to Jonathan Nott and Roy GoringSo, let me get this straight, to send a "public" message, write a replyas normal. To write a private message, put it in the NetMail messagearea with an address. This bbs's fffnet address is 42:42/... and anyone without a point uses 0.0@fffnet. people with points, eg Roy Goringuse another number, ie 14.0@fffnet, in this case.This bbs's fidonet address is 2:256/502.0@fidonet and points don't getspecial treatment. I assume NeST is similar in opperation. The Fidonetmessages have to be put in the fidonet message area and NeST messages inthe NeST area.OK. Why have three message systems? What is the best? Which is fastest?Which is used by the most BBS's and which is used most by non AtariBBS's, (I have friends who own ex-commodore - ex-Escom/Amega Technologys - (Now) Viscom Amega's :) ):)JN> JN> Download my NetMail help file from the bulletins menu for more.JN> Will do, as soon as I can.(Have already downloaded the New User stuff)JN> Email addresses are only given to regular users of this BBS who have JN> proven that they can send NetMail and will make use of the system. You JN> must ask Colin and he'll set you up and give you my helpfile on how to JN> send email.Working on it :) Today netmail, tomorrow the world...Any chance on agreeing on this lot? Oh and are the addresses below OK?One last thing, what does the "Private" button in Kivi do? Robert Goldsmith<< Falcon 030 for ever >>42:42/0@FFFnet 2:252/502.0@FidoNet---* Kivi (unregistered) 1.41a * Robert Goldsmith<< Falcon 030 for ever >>42:42/0@FFFnet 2:252/502.0@FidoNet* Kivi (unregistered) 1.41a * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 384 08-09-9621:42Simon Coward Jonathan Nott Re: Camp sites :-( 0 6 *Hi Si, ...you said to Jonathan Nott:SC> So your the reason the lines engaged ;-pOK, so never more than a couple, but still never less than one!SC> I've also notice a marked increase in my file transfer speeds, upSC> to 2500cps on a 14400 modem :-))Er,...Running at 19200 bps using a word length of 8-bits allows only 2400 cps at full wack. Surely 2500 is physically impossible!!BFN, Jon* Kivi 1.41a * "Is this really the interior of a flying saucer?"--- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 385 08-09-9621:43Simon Coward Jonathan Nott Re: The Big Decision 0 4 *Hi Si, ...you said to Jonathan Nott:SC> It's a secret vote ;-)I have my ways - blackmail, letter bombs. You name it :)BFN, Jon* Kivi 1.41a * "It's a bit of squalid isn't it?" (42:42/0)--- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 386 08-10-9600:26Colin Fisher-McAllum Paul Walsh You 0 4 *Hi Colin, you wrote:CF> Sorry everyone, I am still having a bad time with this cold. I know manyofNo problem - get well soon :-)Slinte Mhath, :@)Paul Walsh hamishtpb@cix.compulink.co.uk* Kivi (unregistered) 1.41a * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 387 08-07-9620:30Simon Coward Mick Lock Re: Screen resolutions 0 5 *In a message of <06.08.96>, Simon Coward (42:42/17) writes: Hi Simon SC> Hi Mick, SC> SC> After trying your machine I decided it was time for some screen SC> enhancement and got some PD prog called Videl. What a difference, now SC> I have tiny icons but loads of space. I knew I'd learn something at SC> that WAG meeting.8-))Does Rotator still work with it?Mick--- ScanMail 0.70 * Origin: Mick's Point off 42BBS (42:42/15) 388 08-10-9609:12Jonathan Nott Martin Stacey Re: Camp sites :-( 0 5 * SC>> I've also notice a marked increase in my file transfer speeds, up SC>> to 2500cps on a 14400 modem :-)) JN> Running at 19200 bps using a word length of 8-bits allows only 2400 JN> cps at full wack. Surely 2500 is physically impossible!!Who syas his dte speed is only 19200 and theres no mention of the actaulconnect speed or type of compression etc :-)--- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: WALU minus the soft half ! (42:42/2@fffnet.ftn) 389 08-10-9614:21Simon Coward Simon Wyndham Re: Screen resolutions 0 7 *Simon Coward wrote to Nathan Beardmore:SC> It was a bit weird really. I just worked up the values, strange thing wasSC> there was one value it didn't like but the nexrt one down the list it did.SC> I think I'm at 832*something.I use VI a lot and use 806* something or other. Unfortunately NVDI does not like it all of the time.Simon-----------------------------------------------------------------------" concentrate on the finger or you will miss all the heavenly gloreee"-----------------------------------------------------------------------simon@guarlfrd.demon.co.uk* Kivi (unregistered) 1.41 * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 390 08-10-9614:32All Colin Fisher-McAllum NeST 0 4 *42BBS has been appointed a HUB for Network ST [NeST]This means my system address has changed to 90:100/300@nest.ftnAs a user of 42BBS this is also your new NeST address. Please DO NOT use the old 90:102/166.0@nest.ftn address. Regards Colin SysOp 42BBS--- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 391 08-10-9615:08All Simon Wyndham Independance day 0 9 *Hi all,I have just seen Independance day. Its a bit cliched in places but my eye was caught by the climax of the film.Now I know that Bill Gates has a monopoly on operating systems, but I did not realise it was so universal that his software could even connect to alien computers to upload a virus. Does this mean that alien space craft are controlled by Intel chips? If they are, don't expect to see any aliens for a long time yet. They will be too busy trying to get rid of all the general protection faults that will keep occuring along their travels ;-)))Simon-----------------------------------------------------------------------" concentrate on the finger or you will miss all the heavenly gloreee"-----------------------------------------------------------------------simon@guarlfrd.demon.co.uk* Kivi (unregistered) 1.41 * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 392 08-10-9616:01Jonathan Nott Richard Spowart Photos 0 10 *Jonathan Nott wrote to All:JN> Alright People,JN> JN> I've just downloaded the new photos ;-)JN> JN> Awards time....JN> JN> Mick gets "Nicest glasses" AwardJN> Simon gets "Nicest beard" AwardJN> Roy gets "Greyest hair" AwardJN> Chris gets "Nicest shirt" AwardJN> There are more to come from the WAG meet, Jon, once I get round touploading the pics from my hard drive!! :-)JN> Right, now for the people who's photos are most in demand...JN> JN> 1. KevJN> 2. DomhnallJN> 3. Roy from the sideJN> A quiet word with one of the main men at Titan Designs (yes, the onewho operates Expose) should be able to do this if all people concernedare at the forthcoming Atari shows ....JN> * Kivi 1.41a * I get "Wierdest Infant" AwardMake sure you don't get left 'Home Alone' then !! :-)See you later, dude!!Richard (Maggie Team)* Kivi (unregistered) 1.41a * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 393 08-10-9617:19Simon Coward Daniel Challen Re: Tour de Whitchurch 0 4 *Simon Coward wrote to Daniel Challen about Re: Tour de Whitchurch:SC> The one rider got nearly a year in bed, the second rider a few weeks. TheSC> policeman got a few days.Ow, nasty ||:( <- smiley with bandaged headThanks for replying,- Dan* Kivi (unregistered) 1.41a * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 394 08-10-9610:49Mick Lock Simon Coward Re: Screen resolutions 0 5 *In a message of 07 Aug 96 Mick Lock (42:42/15) wrote to Simon Coward: ML> Does Rotator still work with it? ML>No problems, in fact you can see more of the finished output, not that that isso important with the zoom modes. I was hoping that it would introduce somebugs but it seems all is well :-)As Rotator works perfectly on yur machine, do you have any problems withpapyrus printing out under MagiC ?regards Simon--- ScanMail 0.70 * Origin: Point 17 on 42BBS (42:42/17) 395 08-10-9610:51Robert Goldsmith Simon Coward Re: A text editor for kiv 0 5 *In a message of 09 Aug 96 Robert Goldsmith (42:42/0) wrote to All : RG> Is there anyone out there using Kivi under Magic that can point to RG> a good, MTasking editor that does not suck huge amounts of memory RG> but allows you to write messages? RG>I used QED qhich is availiable from 42BBS. It worked great under MagiC in factthe combination of the two was a very stable setup.regards Simon--- ScanMail 0.70 * Origin: Point 17 on 42BBS (42:42/17) 396 08-10-9610:57Jonathan Nott Simon Coward Re: Camp sites :-( 0 4 *In a message of 09 Aug 96 Jonathan Nott (42:42/0) wrote to Simon Coward: JN> Running at 19200 bps using a word length of 8-bits allows only 2400 JN> cps at full wack. Surely 2500 is physically impossible!! JN>It's happened a couple of times, all I do is read the figures, I don't knowwhy I get them.regards Simon--- ScanMail 0.70 * Origin: Point 17 on 42BBS (42:42/17) 397 08-10-9610:58Jonathan Nott Simon Coward Re: The Big Decision 0 4 *In a message of 09 Aug 96 Jonathan Nott (42:42/0) wrote to Simon Coward: JN> I have my ways - blackmail, letter bombs. You name it :) JN>I've had enough of Email bombs, one guys trashed my letterbox 3 times. If hedoes it again I'll spike his system.regards Simon--- ScanMail 0.70 * Origin: Point 17 on 42BBS (42:42/17) 398 08-10-9619:03Paul Walsh Stephen Fairclough BarszcAtari Show 0 5 *STE>Hi PaulPW> Does anyone know how to get hold of tickets for the shows - and/orPW> Mike Goodman's E-Mail address ?STE> I don't think he has a E-Mail address and as far as I knowSTE> you get the ticket when you get there.STE>I am waiting to hear from Mike Goodman with more informationSTE> as soon as I do I will let you know.STE>STE>STEve* Kivi (unregistered) 1.41a * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 399 08-10-9619:00Martin Stacey Simon Coward Re: Camp sites :-( 0 5 *In a message of 10 Aug 96 Martin Stacey (42:42/2@fffnet.ftn) wrote to JonathanNott: MS> Who syas his dte speed is only 19200 and theres no mention of the MS> actaul connect speed or type of compression etc :-) MS>It's not 19200, it's about 52-56,000 or somewhere in that area. regards Simonp.s Did you get them WEB pages?--- ScanMail 0.70 * Origin: Point 17 on 42BBS (42:42/17) 400 08-10-9619:01Simon Wyndham Simon Coward Re: Screen resolutions 0 4 *In a message of 10 Aug 96 Simon Wyndham (42:42/0) wrote to Simon Coward: SW> I use VI a lot and use 806* something or other. Unfortunately NVDI SW> does not like it all of the time. SW>Funny, it was 806* I couldn't get...with NVDI ?:-)regards Simon--- ScanMail 0.70 * Origin: Point 17 on 42BBS (42:42/17) 401 08-10-9619:03Simon Wyndham Simon Coward Re: Independance day 0 7 *In a message of 10 Aug 96 Simon Wyndham (42:42/0) wrote to All : SW> Now I know that Bill Gates has a monopoly on operating systems, but SW> I did not realise it was so universal that his software could even SW> connect to alien computers to upload a virus. Does this mean that SW> alien space craft are controlled by Intel chips? If they are, don't SW> expect to see any aliens for a long time yet. They will be too busy SW> trying to get rid of all the general protection faults that will SW> keep occuring along their travels ;-)))Don't be so certain, I think Bill Gates is an Alien set to take over thesystem by turning all the compurters against us.regards Simon--- ScanMail 0.70 * Origin: Point 17 on 42BBS (42:42/17) 402 08-10-9619:04Richard Spowart Simon Coward Re: Photos 0 4 *In a message of 10 Aug 96 Richard Spowart (42:42/0) wrote to Jonathan Nott: JN>> Simon gets "Nicest beard" AwardNow sporting the much shorter summer version ;-) JN>> 1. Kev JN>> 2. DomhnallIf we don't know what they look like how will you know it's them to video.regards Simon--- ScanMail 0.70 * Origin: Point 17 on 42BBS (42:42/17) 403 08-10-9620:51Robert Goldsmith David Buchanan A text editor for kivi 0 6 *Hi Robert, ....you said to All:RG> After using Kivi QWK for a while now, I have still not been veryRG> successful in finding a text editor for use with Kivi under Magic.RG> Is there anyone out there using Kivi under Magic that can point to a RG> good, MTasking editor that does not suck huge amounts of memory butRG> allows you to write messages?I have been using Everest with Kivi for some time now under MagiC with noproblems.The file on the 42 BBS is EVRST35E.ZIP if you wish to download it.RegardsDave* Kivi 1.41a * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 404 08-10-9619:00Robert Goldsmith Roy Goring re: Hello 0 16 *Hello Robert, .....You said to Roy Goring RG> Robert Goldsmith wrote to Jonathan Nott and Roy Goring RG> RG> RG> So, let me get this straight, to send a "public" message, write a RG> reply as normal. To write a private message, put it in the NetMail RG> message area with an address. This bbs's fffnet address is 42:42/... RG> and anyone without a point uses 0.0@fffnet. people with points, eg RG> Roy Goring use another number, ie 14.0@fffnet, in this case. RG> Yep you got it all right, except you don't need the @fffnet :-)Except as from today all the points on 42 became 'nodes', but if you look atthe bottom of the message it will tell you their address to reply to :-) RG> This bbs's fidonet address is 2:256/502.0@fidonet and points don't RG> get special treatment. I assume NeST is similar in opperation. The RG> Fidonet messages have to be put in the fidonet message area and NeST RG> messages in the NeST area. RG> Correct :-) RG> OK. Why have three message systems? What is the best? Which is RG> fastest? Which is used by the most BBS's and which is used most by RG> non Atari BBS's, (I have friends who own ex-commodore - ex- RG> Escom/Amega Technologys - (Now) Viscom Amega's :) ) RG> 'Cos they are different systems, NeST is only available to Atari BBSs, Fidonetand others are international and for all computer formats :-) RG> Any chance on agreeing on this lot? Oh and are the addresses below RG> OK?Yes but get rid of the @ffnet :-)You don't need them in your sig 'cos Kivi will put the correct address,depending on the echo you are in, at the bottom for you :-) RG> One last thing, what does the "Private" button in Kivi do? RG> Nothing :-) Ignore it :-) Yours Roy--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: Node body nodes the trouble I've been :-) (42:42/14) 405 08-10-9619:08Robert Goldsmith Roy Goring re: Hello 0 6 *Hello Robert, .....You said to Jonathan Nott RG> Robert Goldsmith wrote to Jonathan Nott and Roy Goring RG> RG> Also you don't have to write the message twice in any area other than Netmail.All areas are what are called 'open' which means everyone reads everymessage. No one will get upset if you reply to one person and not another ona particular subject :-)We are all here together to help each other when we can :-)And if you mess up you will get shit :-( Usually from me :-)But it's all in fun :-)Yours Roy--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: Node body nodes the trouble I've been :-) (42:42/14) 406 08-10-9619:12Jonathan Nott Roy Goring Re: The Big Decision 0 5 *Hello Jonathan, .....You said to Simon Coward SC>> It's a secret vote ;-) JN> JN> I have my ways - blackmail, letter bombs. You name it :) JN> Now we have all been promoted to 'nodes' you've got no chance 'cos before youbecome a node you have to be a point first :-)Yours Roy--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: Node body nodes the trouble I've been :-) (42:42/14) 407 08-10-9619:14Simon Wyndham Roy Goring Independance day 0 7 *Hello Simon, SW> Simon SW> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- SW> - " concentrate on the finger or you will miss all the SW> heavenly gloreee" SW> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- SW> - simon@guarlfrd.demon.co.uk SW> We have a voluntary agreement not to use sigs in 42 echos. 'cos we all knowwho we are :-)I know Kivi has sigs on or off, but if you do use one it is recomended that itis a max of two lines, this applies to all NeST echos as well.Yours Roy--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: Node body nodes the trouble I've been :-) (42:42/14) 408 08-10-9619:18Richard Spowart Roy Goring Photos 0 5 *Hello Richard, .....You said to Jonathan Nott RS> There are more to come from the WAG meet, Jon, once I get round to RS> uploading the pics from my hard drive!! :-) RS> This is good news, 'cos I need a shot from the WAG meeting to go in AtariComputing, please send it private upload to Colin who will file attach it tome :-)If you have several that's fine :-)Yours Roy--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: Node body nodes the trouble I've been :-) (42:42/14) 409 08-10-9623:27Anthony McKay Roy Goring Hello 0 4 *Hi Anthony,Paul Walsh said to say hello, and to tell you to go away 'cos we don't wantanymore bloody Scotsman on 42 :-pYou're breeding on here faster than rabbits :-pYours Roy--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: Node body nodes the trouble I've been :-) (42:42/14) 410 08-11-9610:59Richard Spowart Roy Goring Photos 0 5 *Hello Roy, .....You said to Richard Spowart RG> This is good news, 'cos I need a shot from the WAG meeting to go in RG> Atari Computing, please send it private upload to Colin who will file RG> attach it to me :-) RG> RG> If you have several that's fine :-) RG> Further to this, can you grey scale them please :-)Yours Roy--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: Node body nodes the trouble I've been :-) (42:42/14) 411 08-11-9614:53Roy Goring Simon Wyndham Independance day 0 4 *Roy Goring wrote to Simon Wyndham:RG> We have a voluntary agreement not to use sigs in 42 echos. 'cos we allknowRG> who we are :-)Oooops. Sorry about that. Your right about the second point as well. Yup I am definately Simon Wyndham. ;-)Simon* Kivi (unregistered) 1.41 * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 412 08-11-9615:44Jonathan Nott Chris Bloy Re: ST Format 0 4 *Hi Jonathan, ......you said to Chris BloyJN> JN> I'll see if I get up in time |-)JN> Yes and so should i, i missed both of the meeting :-)-+ Chris +-Image House Software - The STOSware company - "It's alive!"* Kivi 1.41a * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 413 08-11-9615:44Robert Goldsmith Chris Bloy Hello 0 4 *Hi Robert, ......you wrote to Roy GoringRG> you may find another message with lots of *'s and a RG> desperate plea for help :)RG> Don't worry your get the hang of it, i have :-)-+ Chris +-Image House Software - The STOSware company - "It's alive!"* Kivi 1.41a * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 414 08-11-9618:46Simon Coward Chris Bloy qwkbakup 0 5 *Hi simon,I have just download your qwkbak01.zip, i found i very useful.Could you upgrade the program so it can copy the 42bbs.qwk from my ram disk to drive a and also can change the name?. As i have to do this byhand :-)-+ Chris +-Image House Software - The STOSware company - "It's alive!"* Kivi 1.41a * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 415 08-11-9622:14Richard Spowart Joe Connor Re: Photos 0 4 *Hi Richard, JN>> I've just downloaded the new photos ;-)uhuh JN>> Awards time....uhuh JN>> Right, now for the people who's photos are most in demand...uhuhphew! I'm outta here ;-)RegardsJoe--- ScanMail 0.70 * Origin: InterActive (42:42/4) 416 08-11-9611:17Simon Coward Martin Stacey Re: Camp sites :-( 0 3 * SC> p.s Did you get them WEB pages?er Um !I thought they were live ........Yep they are up there on the web site Simon.--- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: WALU minus the soft half ! (42:42/2@fffnet.ftn) 417 08-11-9611:19Jonathan Nott Martin Stacey Re: Bye 0 3 * JN> I'm off camping JN> JN> See y'all in a week :)Shame as I've just placed your updated ANL pages on the web site.--- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: WALU minus the soft half ! (42:42/2@fffnet.ftn) 418 08-12-9614:41Chris Bloy Simon Coward Re: qwkbakup 0 9 *In a message of 11 Aug 96 Chris Bloy (42:42/0) wrote to Simon Coward: Hi Chris, CB> I have just download your qwkbak01.zip, i found i very useful. CB> Could you upgrade the program so it can copy the 42bbs.qwk from my CB> ram disk to drive a and also can change the name?. As i have to do CB> this by hand :-) CB>Try QWKBAK02.ZIP, I wrote it today :-) I think this will be what you want.I had it writing from one HD partition to another. It also has the added bonusthat you can choose wether to kill the originals or just back them up.You can also put this prg on any folder/partition to do the back up.Let me know if you have any problems and testit on a backed up QWK/REPfirst.If you back up a rep twice the copy will be renamed 4212089A.QWKand the next 4212089B.QWK up to 4212089D.QWK. After that it overwrites "D"which also means you are online too much in one day ;-)enjoy itregards Simon--- ScanMail 0.70 * Origin: Launched through 42BBS (42:42/17) 419 08-12-9615:22Chris Bloy Simon Coward Re: qwkbakup 0 6 *In a message of 11 Aug 96 Chris Bloy (42:42/0) wrote to Simon Coward: CB> I have just download your qwkbak01.zip, i found i very useful. CB> Could you upgrade the program so it can copy the 42bbs.qwk from my CB> ram disk to drive a and also can change the name?. As i have to do CB> this by hand :-)I've just uploaded QWKBAK02.ZIP which should do what you want. Test it onsome backed up ones first.Any problems let me know.Faster than Microsoft :-)regards Simon--- ScanMail 0.70 * Origin: Launched through 42BBS (42:42/17) 420 08-12-9619:35Simon Coward Derrick Sanders Re: Where's CyberSTrider 0 32 *Simon Coward wrote to Daniel Challen:Hi SimonI have managed to sort out my hard drive this time without crashing it.So i have started to catchup with the messages i loaded down the otherday.SC> I have stuff to register with Danny and have even Emailed him to get hisSC> address but so far no response. I'm not willing to post money to an old This box No was setup for the mag "Currents Notes" which Danny is nowthe UK distributer and he is now using it for orders for the software.CyberSTrider order form: Please print out/email this form to:===========================================================================Address: CyberSTrider: PO Box 78, Manchester M21 8SJ, UKEmail: dbhabuta@cix.compulink.co.uk (Internet)WWW: http://www2.wildnet.co.uk/~dbhabuta/Your personal details------------------------------------------------------------------------------Name :Street :Town :Postcode:Country :Email :Software required------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Software Sterling Please enter amount in pounds Sterling:------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [ ] Speed of Light 20.00 [ ] QED 6.00+ ___.__ [ ] zControl 6.00 [ ] Duet 6.00+ ___.__ [ ] iPRN 13.00 [ ] HS-Modem 6.00+ ___.__ [ ] Zorg 12.00 [ ] TOS2GEM 6.00+ ___.__ [ ] Selectric 13.00 [ ] USET2G 6.00+ ___.__ [ ] Da Capo 15.00 [ ] MGIF 6.00+ ___.__ [ ] TCache 15.00 [ ] STiK 5.00+ ___.__ [ ] Grocery Lister 12.00 [ ] STiK upgrade from 1.07 3.00+ ___.__ [ ] LaserJet Controller 13.00 [ ] CAB.OVL 6.00+ ___.__ [ ] Gemini 6.00 [ ] Antmail 8.00+ ___.__ [ ] Junior Office 16.00 [ ] Telnet 6.00+ ___.__ [ ] Kivi 12.00 [ ] Easy_PGP Shell 13.00 [ ] MBE 6.00 Orders from outside the UK: [ ] PGP Shell 8.00 [ ] 1-2 programs add 1 pound Sterling [ ] Stello 10.00 [ ] Over 2 programs add 2 pounds Sterling [ ] Pac Them 13.00 [ ] UDO 20.00 [ ] Please email registration details. [ ] Marcel 5.00 [ ] MG-FTP 10.00 [ ] Master disk/s not required. [ ] Triple Yahoo 12.00 [ ] Kari Heimonen 10.00 [ ] Stamped addressed envelope and [ ] Michel Forget 14.00 disk/s for upgrade/s enclosed. [ ] X Windows/Chimera 17.00 [ ] Backward 12.00 [ ] ReJoinder 10.00 [ ] CBHD TBA [ ] Parafin TBA [ ] SPICE TBA------------------------------------------------------------------------------Total amount in pounds Sterling enclosed: ____.__==============================================================================This section helps us identify problems and use HD disks where possible---------------------------------------------------------------------------Atari computer/s: ST/Mega, ST/e, TT, Falcon, etc:Operating system/s: TOS, MultiTOS, MagiC etc:Atari emulation/s: MagiC Mac, Gemulator etc:Floppy drive format/s: 720Kb DD, 1.44Mb HD etc:------------------------------------------------------------------------------These details will be stored electronically. Your entry is available forinspection on request under the provisions of the UK Data Protection Act.Kind RegardsDerrickderrick.sanders@zetnet.co.uk 2:256/502.0@fidonet* Kivi (unregistered) 1.41a * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 421 08-12-9619:35All Derrick Sanders Hello i'm back 0 11 *Hi AllAfter five weeks away because my Trust Modem refused to chat toColin's new modem. I have managed to get it to connect again whichis a great relief because i do not have the spare cash even for a secondhand one. I just had to alter the address of two of the registers. one of which is switching of compression the other was switching offautomode detection so any experts out there let me have your opinion onwhat i have done would be greatly appreciated.I have only downloaded a few days to get in the picture at the momentso it will take me a little while to get in the swing again. I seeColin has made some changes to the echo's so i have some catching upto do.My telephone bill due soon which i am not looking forward too: i havetried quite a few times before success, those min charges add up. And i have joined Zetnet also. So i will be a bit mean in getting online till that bill is out of the way.Be seeing you. Glad to be back.Derrickderrick.sanders@zetnet.co.uk 2:256/502.0@fidonet* Kivi (unregistered) 1.41a * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 422 08-12-9622:30All Simon Wyndham New computers 0 9 *Hi,Once again I am not sure which echo this should be in, but anyway.I was just reading the latest copy of that great :-/ magazine Edge. Two of the letters in its small letters section were criticising the hell out of the PC and asking for a new computer like the Amiga to be developed. There has been hints of this type of opinion in the magazine for a while now.If 2 rival computers where developed surely we would have the kind of quality software that we need coming into production.What does everyone else think about the future of the PC? Sure, the consoles can produce great 3D graphics, but then home computers have never really been as good as dedicated machines for this purpose. I think it is about time the consumer drove the market rather than the developers and corporate bodies.Simon* Kivi (unregistered) 1.41 * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 423 08-12-9622:30Roy Goring Simon Wyndham Independance day 0 4 *Roy Goring wrote to Simon Wyndham:RG> We have a voluntary agreement not to use sigs in 42 echos. 'cos we allknowRG> who we are :-)Oooops. Sorry about that. Your right about the second point as well. Yup I am definately Simon Wyndham. ;-)Simon* Kivi (unregistered) 1.41 * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 424 08-12-9623:48David Buchanan Robert Goldsmith A text editor for kivi 0 5 *Robert Goldsmith wrote to David Buchanan:DB> I have been using Everest with Kivi for some time now under MagiC with noDB> problems.DB> DB> The file on the 42 BBS is EVRST35E.ZIP if you wish to download it.DB> Have found, am trying, thanks :)Robert Goldsmith<< Falcon 030 for ever >>42:42/0@FFFnet 2:252/502.0@FidoNet* Kivi (unregistered) 1.41a * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 425 08-12-9623:48Roy Goring Robert Goldsmith re: Hello 0 6 *Robert Goldsmith wrote to Roy Goring:RG> Also you don't have to write the message twice in any area other thanRG> Netmail.RG> All areas are what are called 'open' which means everyone reads everyRG> message. No one will get upset if you reply to one person and not anotherRG> onRG> a particular subject :-)I kind of realised that, I just wanted to make sure you both got the message:)Robert Goldsmith<< Falcon 030 for ever >>42:42/0@FFFnet 2:252/502.0@FidoNet* Kivi (unregistered) 1.41a * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 426 08-12-9623:48Simon Coward Robert Goldsmith Re: A text editor for kiv 0 6 *Robert Goldsmith wrote to Simon Coward:SC> I used QED qhich is availiable from 42BBS. It worked great under MagiC inSC> factSC> the combination of the two was a very stable setup.SC> Will check out as soon as pos, I like to try all the editors I can find :)Any suggestions as to what the latest zip is called?Robert Goldsmith<< Falcon 030 for ever >>42:42/0@FFFnet 2:252/502.0@FidoNet* Kivi (unregistered) 1.41a * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 427 08-13-9600:43Jonathan Nott Paul Walsh Re: Al Al 0 5 *Hi Jonathan, you wrote:JN> JN> * Kivi 1.41a * InterActive (42:42/4)JN> When selecting a tagline in Kivi, you can press insert to add anything JN> you want to that particular message - I entered this for a joke :))Oh :-/Erm, Ha -ha :-?;-)Slinte Mhath, :@)Paul Walsh hamishtpb@cix.compulink.co.uk* Kivi (unregistered) 1.41a * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 428 08-13-9600:43Jonathan Nott Paul Walsh Re: New echo ?? 0 4 *Hi Jonathan, you wrote:JN> JN>> Who's for 42_VIRTUAL_KARIOKE :~>JN> PW> Nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!JN> I was only joking !!Phew ;-)Slinte Mhath, :@)Paul Walsh hamishtpb@cix.compulink.co.uk* Kivi (unregistered) 1.41a * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 429 08-13-9600:44Andy Wilson Paul Walsh RAMming it home ? 0 5 *Hi Andy, you wrote:AW> PW> Does anyone in the entire Atari community *not* knowAW> PW> that Al has 14Mb of RAM ? ;-pAW> I didn't, where did you get it Al. I take it Paul doesn't and is jealous ?I'm jealous of the amount of RAM, yes ;-)I am trying very hard to save up for a TT :-)Slinte Mhath, :@)Paul Walsh hamishtpb@cix.compulink.co.uk* Kivi (unregistered) 1.41a * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 430 08-13-9600:44Andy Wilson Paul Walsh Test 0 5 *Hi Andy, you wrote:AW> Hi AlAW> Is this working ?STBIB...Al is on holiday ATM - and yes it is working, atleast I assume you were trying to send a messageto 42_Local :-)Have fun and as you seem to be new here, Welcome :@)Slinte Mhath, :@)Paul Walsh hamishtpb@cix.compulink.co.uk* Kivi (unregistered) 1.41a * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 431 08-13-9600:44Roy Goring Paul Walsh Oh can't we now! 0 4 *Hi Roy, you wrote:RG> I didn't think SOL viewed TGA, does it? 'cos I got that :-)I can't say off hand - but using GEMView it's possible to view/convert between various formats :)Slinte Mhath, :@)Paul Walsh hamishtpb@cix.compulink.co.uk* Kivi (unregistered) 1.41a * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 432 08-13-9600:44Jonathan Nott Paul Walsh Picky aren't we Jon ;) 0 8 *Hi Jonathan, you wrote:JN> replying to a 42BBS user - they will just be posted locally. If you JN> want to write to anyone outside of this BBS, you *must* add an address I have replied to non-42ers from KIVI *without* adding an address, I assume KIVI has taken the address from somewhere in the originalmessage - I'm not sure - all I know is it works for me :-?JN> Not True - you can only change the character that comes *after* the JN> initials!I did say I *think* this is possible, isn't thisequally useful anyway?I think that there is more than enough advice for our newbies on here now so let's stop splitting hairs :-)I bow to your superior knowledge, sir ;)Slinte Mhath, :@)Paul Walsh hamishtpb@cix.compulink.co.uk* Kivi (unregistered) 1.41a * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 433 08-13-9600:44Jonathan Nott Paul Walsh Re: Oh can't we now! 0 5 *Hi Mr Picky , you wrote:JN> PW> You are forgetting SOL and Photochrome }:->JN> Only PChrome can view TGA, though ???See my reply to RoyJN> I've uploaded PCHRM4.LZH which is the latest version.I may download at some point :)Slinte Mhath, :@)Paul Walsh hamishtpb@cix.compulink.co.uk* Kivi (unregistered) 1.41a * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 434 08-13-9600:44Jonathan Nott Paul Walsh Bye 0 4 *Hi Jonathan, you wrote:JN> I'm off campingJN> See y'all in a week :)I await your return with bated breath ;)Slinte Mhath, :@)Paul Walsh hamishtpb@cix.compulink.co.uk* Kivi (unregistered) 1.41a * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 435 08-13-9600:44Robert Goldsmith Paul Walsh A text editor for kivi 0 6 *Hi Robert, you wrote:RG> Is there anyone out there using Kivi under Magic that can point to a RG> good, MTasking editor that does not suck huge amounts of memory butRG> allows you to write messages?QED works for me (although I had to add a patch ADDMEM.PRG IIRC)but I believe Everest also does the trick, you should find bothin the file areas on 42 :@)Hope I helpedSlinte Mhath, :@)Paul Walsh hamishtpb@cix.compulink.co.uk* Kivi (unregistered) 1.41a * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 436 08-12-9618:02Martin Stacey Simon Coward Re: Camp sites :-( 0 4 *In a message of 11 Aug 96 Martin Stacey (42:42/2@fffnet.ftn) wrote to SimonCoward: MS> Yep they are up there on the web site Simon. MS>Could you send me the address again, I'm not sure if this is right.regards Simon--- ScanMail 0.70 * Origin: Launched through 42BBS (42:42/17) 437 08-12-9622:42Derrick Sanders Roy Goring Hello i'm back 0 5 *Hi Derrick, .....You said to All DS> After five weeks away because my Trust Modem refused to chat to DS> Colin's new modem. I have managed to get it to connect again which DS> is a great relief because i do not have the spare cash even for a Please netmail Colin with your settings and any other useful info, 'cos heneeds to pass this onto others who are still not able to connect :-(Yours Roy--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: Node body nodes the trouble I've been :-) (42:42/14) 438 08-13-9610:28Simon Coward Paul Leonard ZETNET 0 4 *Hi Simon,I've got my connection to zetnet working i.e I can send and recieve mailbut in CAB when it gets to about the ending of loading a site it crasheswith threee bombsThanksPaul Lpaul.leonard@zetnet.co.ukcsaug2@cix.compulink.co.uk--- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 439 08-13-9613:57Roy Goring Anthony Mckay Re: Hello 0 4 * RG>> Hi Anthony,Greeting Roy, Faster than rabbits eh??At least us Scotsmen can breed, unlikeyou english opressors who can only inbreed! ;-))))))))))))))))))Bye...Angus TPBAce Banana One--- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 440 08-13-9606:14Derrick Sanders Simon Coward Re: Where's CyberSTrider 0 5 *In a message of 12 Aug 96 Derrick Sanders (42:42/0) wrote to Simon Coward: DS> I have managed to sort out my hard drive this time without crashing DS> it. Nice to have you back. DS> This box No was setup for the mag "Currents Notes" which Danny is DS> now the UK distributer and he is now using it for orders for the DS> software. DS> Thanks for the address.regards Simon--- ScanMail 0.70 * Origin: Launched through 42BBS (42:42/17) 441 08-13-9606:18Robert Goldsmith Simon Coward Re: A text editor for kiv 0 4 *In a message of 12 Aug 96 Robert Goldsmith (42:42/0) wrote to Simon Coward: RG> Any suggestions as to what the latest zip is called? RG>It looks like QED-370S.lzh is the latest .regards Simon--- ScanMail 0.70 * Origin: Launched through 42BBS (42:42/17) 442 08-12-9612:37Paul Walsh Kevin Beardsworth Re: Medical Exams 0 3 *Hi Paul, you said in a message to Kevin Beardsworth KB>> now doctors. PW> PW> A bit scary =:-O A bit scary? It's damm right terrifying :) BCNU, *Kev*--- ScanMail 0.70 * Origin: The Millennium Falcon, Hitchin' A Ride On 42BBS (42:42/1) 443 08-13-9612:26Paul Walsh Kevin Beardsworth Re: 42 Humour 0 4 *Hi Paul, you said in a message to Kevin Beardsworth PW> I find it unusual that there isn't more Adams-esque humour PW> on this board considering the nature of it :-/ Colin's the HHGTTG expert praps he'll come up with something. BCNU, *Kev*--- ScanMail 0.70 * Origin: The Millennium Falcon, Hitchin' A Ride On 42BBS (42:42/1) 444 08-13-9612:29Jonathan Nott Kevin Beardsworth Re: Photos 0 4 *Hi Jonathan, you said in a message to All JN> Right, now for the people who's photos are most in demand... JN> JN> 1. Kev Not a chance matey. BCNU, *Kev*--- ScanMail 0.70 * Origin: The Millennium Falcon, Hitchin' A Ride On 42BBS (42:42/1) 445 08-13-9612:32Simon Coward Kevin Beardsworth Re: Frontier 0 5 *Hi Simon, you said in a message to Paul Walsh SC> You get a lot of ships if you attack a space port, especially SC> one on Earth. Police everywhere, it's great :-) It's also the quickest way to increase your rating. I won a battle against loads of ships and jumped two levels. BCNU, *Kev*--- ScanMail 0.70 * Origin: The Millennium Falcon, Hitchin' A Ride On 42BBS (42:42/1) 446 08-13-9612:38Simon Wyndham Kevin Beardsworth Re: Independance day 0 4 *Hi Simon, you said in a message to All SW> Now I know that Bill Gates has a monopoly on operating systems, SW> but I did not realise it was so universal that his software One problem with you're therory, it was a MAC :) BCNU, *Kev*--- ScanMail 0.70 * Origin: The Millennium Falcon, Hitchin' A Ride On 42BBS (42:42/1) 447 08-13-9619:01Paul Leonard Simon Coward Re: ZETNET 0 5 *In a message of 13 Aug 96 Paul Leonard (42:42/0) wrote to Simon Coward: PL> I've got my connection to zetnet working i.e I can send and recieve PL> mail but in CAB when it gets to about the ending of loading a site it PL> crashes with threee bombs PL> That's a new one on me, what version of Stik and CAB do you have?regards Simon--- ScanMail 0.70 * Origin: Launched through 42BBS (42:42/17) 448 08-13-9619:02Roy Goring Simon Coward Re: Hello 0 5 *In a message of 13 Aug 96 Anthony Mckay (42:42/0) wrote to Roy Goring: AM> you english opressors who can only inbreed! ;-)))))))))))))))))) AM> I don't know, we get rid of one and a dozen take his place, even if it doesincrease taxes that wall will have to be rebuilt....of course we could taxthem to build it ;-)regards Simon--- ScanMail 0.70 * Origin: Launched through 42BBS (42:42/17) 449 08-13-9621:09Kevin Beardsworth Simon Coward Re: Frontier 0 6 *In a message of 13 Aug 96 Kevin Beardsworth (42:42/1) wrote to Simon Coward: KB> It's also the quickest way to increase your rating. I won a battle KB> against loads of ships and jumped two levels. KB>It's even easier if you attack a spacestation, you can sit at a slight angleto the entrance and fire lazers, missiles etc, very spectacular :-)The missiles are especially good if you destroy the ships just as the dooropens.regards Simon--- ScanMail 0.70 * Origin: Launched through 42BBS (42:42/17) 450 08-13-9620:13Anthony Mckay Roy Goring Re: Hello 0 5 *Hi Anthony, .....You said to Roy Goring AM> At least us Scotsmen can breed, unlike AM> you english opressors who can only inbreed! ;-)))))))))))))))))) AM> Welcome aboard :-)I hope you enjoy yourself here :-)If you need any help, just yell in here and I'm sure someone will answer :-)Are you coming to the shows in the Scotish minibus? If you are I shall see youat both shows :-)Yours Roy--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: Node body nodes the trouble I've been :-) (42:42/14) 451 08-14-9600:46All Robert Goldsmith Text editor for kivi 0 6 *Robert Goldsmith Wrote to All:Thanks all for your suggestions, I think I have things more on track now. Theonly problem left with Kivi is the apparent lack of a "someone wrote to someoneelse" bit which, according to the Help, is added like the sig, when you writethe message. No sign of it yet :( Any ideas?Robert Goldsmith<< Falcon 030 for ever >>42:42/0@FFFnet 2:252/502.0@FidoNet* Kivi (unregistered) 1.41a * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 452 08-14-9600:46Simon Wyndham Robert Goldsmith Re: Independance day 0 8 *Robert Goldsmith wrote to Simon Wyndham:Kevin Beardsworth wrote to you:KB> SW> Now I know that Bill Gates has a monopoly on operating systems,KB> SW> but I did not realise it was so universal that his softwareKB> KB> One problem with you're therory, it was a MAC :)KB> I noticed that as well... These Macs are getting around a bit, arn't they,first Mission Impossible and now Independance Day. Must be pritty niftycomputers. In fact, thats prob why they used them... If they can hack theAmerican Intelegance computers, they will find sending a virus into analien computer a doddle. I bet they still send you an incorrect phone bill though :)Robert Goldsmith<< Falcon 030 for ever >>42:42/0@FFFnet 2:252/502.0@FidoNet* Kivi (unregistered) 1.41a * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 453 08-13-962:25:All John Blackwell Outline Art 0 9 *Hi y'all,Just had a call from a fellow called Eddie Gray, who's having problems with Outline Art. (I *think* that's the name of the program, it's that one that uses Calamus fonts and stuff). He got my number from the Atari Wrinkleys Club (I'm too young really!) but though I use (and frequently extoll the virtues of) Calamus, I couldn't help as I know nothing of this other program.If anyone would care to help him, he is on 01934 812715 (Weston-Super-Mare), or if you'd prefer leave your phone number for me, either here (if you're feeling brave) or to my netmail address: dragon@uk.pipeline.com and I'll pass your number on to him.If you *do* ring him, don't be purturbed at his voice, as he suffers from throat cancer.Come on someone, be kind! :)John___* UniQWK v4.1 * The Windows Mail Reader--- Hqwk V6.5 [JetMail 0.99beta21] * Origin: WALU minus the soft half ! (42:42/2@fffnet.ftn) 454 08-13-9621:29Simon Coward Roy Goring Re: Hello 0 7 *Hi Simon, .....You said to Roy Goring SC> In a message of 13 Aug 96 Anthony Mckay (42:42/0) wrote to Roy SC> Goring: AM>> you english opressors who can only inbreed! ;-)))))))))))))))))) AM>> SC> I don't know, we get rid of one and a dozen take his place, even if SC> it does increase taxes that wall will have to be rebuilt....of course SC> we could tax them to build it ;-) SC> I know it's terrible isn't it :-)Mind you it's quite nice and quiet in here with Alasdair and Domnhall away :-)Maybe we should go 'Scotty bashing' while they are not here to defend the weekones like Paul Walsh and his mate Anthony McKay :-pYours Roy--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: Node body nodes the trouble I've been :-) (42:42/14) 455 08-14-9607:37John Blackwell Simon Coward Re: Outline Art 0 3 *In a message of 13 Aug 96 John Blackwell (42:42/2@fffnet.ftn) wrote to All : JB> Hi y'all,Hi John,Nice to see your still around.regards Simon--- ScanMail 0.70 * Origin: Launched through 42BBS (42:42/17) 456 08-14-9608:41Roy Goring Simon Coward Re: Hello 0 6 *In a message of 13 Aug 96 Roy Goring (42:42/14) wrote to Simon Coward: RG> Mind you it's quite nice and quiet in here with Alasdair and Domnhall RG> away :-) RG>Nothing about Al's 14mb for a few days ;-) RG> Maybe we should go 'Scotty bashing' while they are not here to defend RG> the week ones like Paul Walsh and his mate Anthony McKay :-p RG> I'd be careful, remember Braveheart. I've been North of the border a few timesand there's loads of them up there :-)regards Simon--- ScanMail 0.70 * Origin: Launched through 42BBS (42:42/17) 457 08-14-9613:56Roy Goring Anthony Mckay Re: Hello 0 4 *Hi Roy,unfortunately I won't be going to any shows as I am too poorand too lonely, nobody loves me.....(the remaining 23 pages of sorrow has been ommited due to regulationsfrom the Geneva convention). ;+)BFNAngus TPBAce Banana One--- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 458 08-14-9614:04All Anthony Mckay 0 4 *Hello all,I'm new and Scottish and not to mention very hansome.I'ts not my fault that I know Paul Walsh ;-)Cheers!!Angus TPBAce Banana One.PS. I have to write these on-line at present, so please be patient.--- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 459 08-14-9617:58Daniel Challen Paul Walsh Roy's Problems 0 5 *Hi Daniel, you wrote (in ATARI_COMPUTING):DC> PW> MK> here after Colin, but that Roy chap got here first ;-) DC> PW> He does interject prematurely :-)DC> That's no way to talk about the man behind his back, no matter what DC> problems he .... oh, sorry _"interject"_, er. carry onSlinte Mhath, :@)Paul Walsh hamishtpb@cix.compulink.co.uk* Kivi (unregistered) 1.41a * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 460 08-14-9617:58Stephen Fairclough BarszcPaul Walsh Atari Show 0 4 *Hi Stephen, you wrote:SF> STE> you get the ticket when you get there.Thanks but I have spoken to Mike and it's a payas you enter affair :)Slinte Mhath, :@)Paul Walsh hamishtpb@cix.compulink.co.uk* Kivi (unregistered) 1.41a * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 461 08-14-9617:58Roy Goring Paul Walsh Hello 0 8 *Hi Roy, you wrote to Anthony McKay:RG> Paul Walsh said to say hello, and to tell you to go away 'cos we don'twantRG> anymore bloody Scotsman on 42 :-pRG> You're breeding on here faster than rabbits :-pThe rumours concerning us Scotsmen breeding are unfounded :)I think he's registered as Tony McKay - in fact even his mother calls him Tony now - AFAIK I'm the only person thatcalls him Anthony - I just like to annoy him :-)He's struggling away trying to get himself sorted out witha QWK reader for use on his work's Big Blue Compatable PCand his STe is still on the blink (for >6Mths :-O) so bepatient and gentle with him to start with :)Slinte Mhath, :@)Paul Walsh hamishtpb@cix.compulink.co.uk* Kivi (unregistered) 1.41a * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 462 08-14-9617:58Derrick Sanders Paul Walsh Hello i'm back 0 4 *Hi Derrick, you wrote:DS> Be seeing you. Glad to be back.We're all glad to have you back :-)Slinte Mhath, :@)Paul Walsh hamishtpb@cix.compulink.co.uk* Kivi (unregistered) 1.41a * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 463 08-14-9613:28Simon Coward Roy Goring Re: Hello 0 5 *Hi Simon, .....You said to Roy Goring RG>> Maybe we should go 'Scotty bashing' while they are not here to RG>> defend the week ones like Paul Walsh and his mate Anthony McKay :- RG>> p SC> I'd be careful, remember Braveheart. I've been North of the border a SC> few times and there's loads of them up there :-) SC> As long as they stay up there, thats OK with me :-pYours Roy--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: Node body nodes the trouble I've been :-) (42:42/14) 464 08-14-9619:33Simon Coward Paul Leonard Re: ZETNET 0 3 *Hi Simon,STik 1.08 CAB er.. from WWW131 - Latest version.RegardsPaul--- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 465 08-14-9620:25Robert Goldsmith David Buchanan Text editor for kivi 0 8 *Hi Robert, ....you said to All:RG> Thanks all for your suggestions, I think I have things more on track now.RG> The only problem left with Kivi is the apparent lack of a "someone wrotetoRG> someone else" bit which, according to the Help, is added like the sig, RG> when you write the message. No sign of it yet :( Any ideas?Here is a a quick guide:1. Selext OPTIONS from the Kivi menu bar2. Now select GENERAL from the pulldown menu3. In the REPLIES section select the INSERT QUOTE HEADER option4. Now press the EDIT QUOTE HEADER button5. Now you can change the header For example mine is Hi %FF, ...you said to %TF %TL:Don't forget to save your options when finishedRegardsDave* Kivi 1.41a * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 466 08-14-9620:25Robert Goldsmith David Buchanan A text editor for kivi 0 3 *Hi Robert, ....you said to David Buchanan:RG> Have found, am trying, thanks :)No probsRegardsDave* Kivi 1.41a * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 467 08-14-9620:25Roy Goring David Buchanan Re: Hello 0 4 *Hi Roy, ....you said to Simon Coward:RG> Maybe we should go 'Scotty bashing' while they are not here to defend theRG> weekRG> ones like Paul Walsh and his mate Anthony McKay :-p:-)~RegardsDave* Kivi 1.41a * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 468 08-12-9618:37Simon Wyndham Si Gardner Re: Independance day 0 8 *In a message to All , Simon Wyndham wrote ina large crayon:- SW> I have just seen Independance day. Its a bit cliched in places but my SW> eye was caught by the climax of the film.Well I saw it last night and was a little dissapointed with the whole film. Ithought the special effects were excelent, but the story was missingsomething. Even the acting was second rate in places. The actions of thepeople in the film was far too obvious to mention. Most people I think couldwork out what was going to happen next. Its a good film but I don't think its worth all the hype that been accorded itlately. Personally I liked Mission Impossible better.See YaSimonChristmas spirit is not something to drink--- JetMail 0.99beta22 * Origin: The Meon Valley BBS (OFFLINE!) (42:42/13) 469 08-14-9619:10Anthony Mckay Roy Goring Re: Hello 0 6 *Hi Anthony, .....You said to Roy Goring AM> Hi Roy, AM> unfortunately I won't be going to any shows as I am too poor AM> and too lonely, nobody loves me..... AM> (the remaining 23 pages of sorrow has been ommited due to AM> regulations from the Geneva convention). ;+) AM> Ahhhhhhhh, Shame :-(my heart bleeds for you :-([fx cheers loadly, one more Scot kept behind the wall]I hope things get better for you in the future, and maybe we can meet anothertime :-pYours Roy--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: Node body nodes the trouble I've been :-) (42:42/14) 470 08-14-9619:13Anthony Mckay Roy Goring Re: Hello 0 5 *Hi Anthony, .....You said to All AM> Hello all, AM> I'm new and Scottish and not to mention very hansome. ^^^^^^^ AM> AM> I'ts not my fault that I know Paul Walsh ;-) ^^^^It's not his fault he can't spell either :-)He's Scottish :-)Yours Roy--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: Node body nodes the trouble I've been :-) (42:42/14) 471 08-14-9619:29Paul Walsh Roy Goring Roy's Problems 0 5 *Hi Paul, .....You said to Daniel Challen DC>> PW> MK> here after Colin, but that Roy chap got here first ;-) DC>> PW> He does interject prematurely :-) DC>> That's no way to talk about the man behind his back, no matter DC>> what problems he .... oh, sorry _"interject"_, er. carry on > PW> [fx splash]Yours Roy--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: Node body nodes the trouble I've been :-) (42:42/14) 472 08-14-9619:30Paul Walsh Roy Goring Hello 0 5 *Hi Paul, .....You said to Roy Goring PW> He's struggling away trying to get himself sorted out with PW> a QWK reader for use on his work's Big Blue Compatable PC PW> and his STe is still on the blink (for >6Mths :-O) so be PW> patient and gentle with him to start with :) PW> But of course Paul :-p[fx Joes evil cackle, it is alright if I borrow it Joe?]Yours Roy--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: Node body nodes the trouble I've been :-) (42:42/14) 473 08-15-9600:16Kevin Beardsworth Simon Wyndham Re: Independance day 0 6 *Kevin Beardsworth wrote to Simon Wyndham:KB> One problem with you're therory, it was a MAC :)I have just realised. Ooops. Anyway, anything to have a go at Gates eh?MAC not so bad. I'll forgive it because it has a decent version of MagiC and it is Motorola powered. Maybe I was confused because of how Windows has tried to copy every other GUI around. It is strange that I made this mistake though, especially after all the hype of the film and the new mac ads.Simon* Kivi (unregistered) 1.41 * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 474 08-15-9600:16Robert Goldsmith Simon Wyndham Text editor for kivi 0 7 *Robert Goldsmith wrote to All:RG> Thanks all for your suggestions, I think I have things more on track now.TheRG> oRG> nly problem left with Kivi is the apparent lack of a "someone wrote tosomeoneRG> RG> else" bit which, according to the Help, is added like the sig, when youwriteRG> tRG> he message. No sign of it yet :( Any ideas?Mine works alright. However you seem to be suffering from the same problems with the text being messed up by strange CRs. I had problems with this for a long time. It has strangely stopped now. Try adjusting your line length to 70.Regards Simon* Kivi (unregistered) 1.41 * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 475 08-15-9600:17All Simon Wyndham Birds Eye Crispy Chicken 0 5 *Hi,Has anyone seen that Birds Eye crispy chicken advert on the tele? You know the really irritating one where the cartoon farmer jumps into the kitchen and the whole family starts bopping away to the Crispy Chicken tune.Well does anyone else think that the bloke playing the father is Peter Molynuex (howver you spell it) of Bull Frog? ;-)Simon* Kivi (unregistered) 1.41 * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 476 08-15-9602:49Anthony Mckay Paul Walsh Re: Hello 0 4 *Hi Anthony, you wrote:Ah - you're here then, and full of abuse for Roy I see :)Welcome aboard - I hope you have fun :@)Slinte Mhath, :@)Paul Walsh hamishtpb@cix.compulink.co.uk* Kivi (unregistered) 1.41a * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 477 08-15-9602:49Kevin Beardsworth Paul Walsh Re: Independance day 0 4 *Hi Kevin :@)Why don't you and the others who *have* seen itjust tell us all the whole story and save us thebother of going to see it (what's the smiley for in the huff ;-)Slinte Mhath, :@)Paul Walsh hamishtpb@cix.compulink.co.uk* Kivi (unregistered) 1.41a * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 478 08-15-9602:49Roy Goring Paul Walsh Re: Hello 0 8 *Hi Roy, you wrote:RG> Mind you it's quite nice and quiet in here with Alasdair and Domnhall away:-)RG> RG> Maybe we should go 'Scotty bashing' while they are not here to defend theweekRG> ones like Paul Walsh and his mate Anthony McKay :-pThere's no such thing as a weak Scotsman - gullible perhaps but notweak :-|I don't think you'll have quite the same attitude if youmeet the rather large Mr McKay face to face ;-)Having said that, He doesn't think he can make it to anyof the shows :-((I'll let him tell his stories himself though :-/(Yay, verily and Paul doth experiment with many smileys)Slinte Mhath, :@)Paul Walsh hamishtpb@cix.compulink.co.uk* Kivi (unregistered) 1.41a * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 479 08-15-9602:50Simon Coward Paul Walsh Scotsmen 0 6 *Hi Simon, you wrote:SC> Nothing about Al's 14mb for a few days ;-)SC> I'd be careful, remember Braveheart. I've been North of the border a fewtimesSC> and there's loads of them up there :-)Funny thing about our country - it's full of ourcountrymen (and countrywomen of course) :-)If Roy doesn't watch it I'll bring my claymoreto Brum with me :->Slinte Mhath, :@)Paul Walsh hamishtpb@cix.compulink.co.uk* Kivi (unregistered) 1.41a * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 480 08-15-9602:50Anthony Mckay Paul Walsh Re: Hello 0 5 *Hi Anthony, you wrote:AM> unfortunately I won't be going to any shows as I am too poorAM> and too lonely, nobody loves me.....Hrmph - why do I bother trying to defend us ;)Another shining example of Scottish fortitude :(C'mon McKay - stand up straight and think of Bannockburn ;-)Slinte Mhath, :@)Paul Walsh hamishtpb@cix.compulink.co.uk* Kivi (unregistered) 1.41a * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 481 08-15-9602:50Anthony Mckay Paul Walsh Hello again 0 5 *Hi Anthony, you wrote:AM> I'm new and Scottish and not to mention very hansome.True,true - [FX:creased up with laughter]AM> I'ts not my fault that I know Paul Walsh ;-) ^^^^Or that you can't punctuate properly :-pSlinte Mhath, :@)Paul Walsh hamishtpb@cix.compulink.co.uk* Kivi (unregistered) 1.41a * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 482 08-14-9622:28David Buchanan Roy Goring Re: Hello 0 5 *Hi David, .....You said to Roy Goring RG>> Maybe we should go 'Scotty bashing' while they are not here to RG>> defend DB> the RG>> week RG>> ones like Paul Walsh and his mate Anthony McKay :-p DB> DB> :-)~ DB> That's what I like to see, a nice adult, constructive, reply :-)Yours Roy--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: Node body nodes the trouble I've been :-) (42:42/14) 483 08-15-9613:48Roy Goring Anthony Mckay Re:The Wall 0 5 * RG>> [fx cheers loadly, one more Scot kept behind the wall]That wall is there to keep pesky english out. And if you want to stepoutside and say that it's just fine by me. :*)Oh and I'm fae Bannockburn.... 1314... remember that??Glad I got that out of my system and into yours...Oh Flower of SCOTLAND... (Mx fade)Salutations..Angus TPBAce Banana One.--- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 484 08-15-9613:53Roy Goring Anthony Mckay Re: Hello 0 4 * RG>> It's not his fault he can't spell either :-)Scottish spelling. ;-) RG>> He's Scottish :-)And proud.Also see other message about us Scots.BFNAngus TPBAce Banana One.--- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 485 08-15-9613:57Paul Walsh Anthony Mckay Re: Abuse for Roy 0 3 * PW>> Ah - you're here then, and full of abuse for Roy I see :)Yep. :@>>CheersAngus TPB--- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 486 08-15-9613:59Paul Walsh Anthony Mckay Re: Hello 0 4 * PW>> C'mon McKay - stand up straight and think of Bannockburn ;-)OH FLOWER OF SCOTLAND.....fadesUs Scots Vs The World eh??Nae Bother. :-)Charge!!!(fx. running sounds, Claymores being unsheathed, heads rolling, ETC..)CheersAngus TPB--- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 487 08-15-9614:07Paul Walsh Anthony Mckay Spelling and punctuation 0 4 *Look remember I'm on-line and corrections to my poor typing costs thecompany lot's of cash. ;-)So leave me alone you frightful thing!!!! ;->Phone us tonight, bye the way.BFNAngus TPB.--- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 488 08-15-9614:11Paul Walsh Anthony Mckay Re: Hello 0 4 * PW>> I think he's registered as Tony McKay - in fact even his mother PW>> calls him Tony now - AFAIK I'm the only person that calls him PW>> Anthony - I just like to annoy him :-)And you do without even trying. ;-pAngus "anThONY"--- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 489 08-15-9614:16Roy Goring Anthony Mckay Re: Hello 0 7 * RG>>> Maybe we should go 'Scotty bashing' while they are not here to RG>>> defend the week ones like Paul Walsh and his mate Anthony McKay :-Weak that will be right, and I've got a stick. RG>>> p SC>> I'd be careful, remember Braveheart. I've been North of the bordera SC>> few times and there's loads of them up there :-) Hundreds. :-)And we've got Al Gould. RG>> As long as they stay up there, thats OK with me :-pAnd us.Oh and why do you want to beat up small fluffy dogs of the "Scottie"variety or does "Bashing" have other meanings?? :*)Angus TPB--- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 490 08-15-9607:31Paul Leonard Simon Coward Re: ZETNET 0 4 *In a message of 14 Aug 96 Paul Leonard (42:42/0) wrote to Simon Coward: PL> STik 1.08 CAB er.. from WWW131 - Latest version. PL>Is it crashing just online or offline as well?regards Simon --- ScanMail 0.70 * Origin: Launched through 42BBS (42:42/17) 491 08-15-9607:35Roy Goring Simon Coward Re: Hello 0 6 *In a message of 14 Aug 96 Roy Goring (42:42/14) wrote to Paul Walsh: PW>>He's struggling away trying to get himself sorted out with PW>> a QWK reader for use on his work's Big Blue Compatable PC PW>> and his STe is still on the blink (for >6Mths :-O) so be PW>> patient and gentle with him to start with :)We won't have time to laugh about someone trying to set up one of "those"machines, we're still watching the saga of the last one. He should be readyin a month...or two.regards Simon--- ScanMail 0.70 * Origin: Launched through 42BBS (42:42/17) 492 08-15-9607:39Paul Walsh Simon Coward Re: Scotsmen 0 4 *In a message of 15 Aug 96 Paul Walsh (42:42/0) wrote to Simon Coward: PW> If Roy doesn't watch it I'll bring my claymore PW> to Brum with me :->Take my advice, bring it. You may need it if you get lost round there :-(Still be Motorcycle Museum is easy to find and in a more peaceful area.regards Simon--- ScanMail 0.70 * Origin: Launched through 42BBS (42:42/17) 493 08-15-9607:41Paul Walsh Simon Coward Re: Hello 0 4 *In a message of 15 Aug 96 Paul Walsh (42:42/0) wrote to Anthony Mckay: PW> Hrmph - why do I bother trying to defend us ;) PW>It's a worse excuse than mine for not being there. PW> Another shining example of Scottish fortitude :( PW>;-)regards Simon--- ScanMail 0.70 * Origin: Launched through 42BBS (42:42/17) 494 08-15-9619:26all Chris Bloy Tony Greenwood 0 4 *Hi all,I know i have asked this before but could any of you tell me TonyGreenwoods Email address. :-)-+ Chris +-LOOK! - E-mail me today:cbloy@fffnet.demon.co.uk - "It's alive!"* Kivi 1.41a * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 495 08-15-9619:01Anthony Mckay Roy Goring Re:The Wall 0 6 *Hi Anthony, .....You said to Roy Goring AM> That wall is there to keep pesky english out. And if you want to AM> step outside and say that it's just fine by me. :*) AM> Oh and I'm fae Bannockburn.... 1314... remember that?? AM> I'm afraid I have to correct you 'cos I was told this by a Scot a little whileago in hereThe Romans built the wall on contract to the English, to keep 'those heathens'out :-pYours Roy--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: Node body nodes the trouble I've been :-) (42:42/14) 496 08-15-9619:04Anthony Mckay Roy Goring Re: Hello 0 4 *Hi Anthony, .....You said to Paul Walsh AM> Charge!!! AM> (fx. running sounds, Claymores being unsheathed, heads rolling, AM> ETC..) Yeh Scottish heads, as they run along tripping over those bloody stupidswords, cutting their own heads off :-pYours Roy--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: Node body nodes the trouble I've been :-) (42:42/14) 497 08-15-9623:48Paul Walsh Simon Wyndham Re: Independance day 0 4 *Paul Walsh wrote to Kevin Beardsworth:PW> Why don't you and the others who *have* seen itPW> just tell us all the whole story and save us thePW> bother of going to see it (what's the smiley for PW> in the huff ;-)OK. It starts off with.... ;-)Simon* Kivi (unregistered) 1.41 * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 498 08-15-9619:10Roy Goring Simon Coward Re:The Wall 0 4 *In a message of 15 Aug 96 Anthony Mckay (42:42/0) wrote to Roy Goring: AM> Oh and I'm fae Bannockburn.... 1314... remember that?? AM> Unlikely, he's not that old ;-) AM> Salutations.. AM> Angus TPB AM> Ace Banana One.Roy do they speak the same language?regards Simon--- ScanMail 0.70 * Origin: Launched through 42BBS (42:42/17) 499 08-15-9619:13Anthony Mckay Simon Coward Re: Spelling and punctuat 0 4 *In a message of 15 Aug 96 Anthony Mckay (42:42/0) wrote to Paul Walsh: AM> Look remember I'm on-line and corrections to my poor typing costs AM> the company lot's of cash. ;-) AM>Does that mean your answering online? Offline reader before the company getsthe bill.regards Simon--- ScanMail 0.70 * Origin: Launched through 42BBS (42:42/17) 500 08-15-9622:48Simon Coward Roy Goring Re: Hello 0 7 *Hi Simon, .....You said to Roy Goring SC> In a message of 14 Aug 96 Roy Goring (42:42/14) wrote to Paul SC> Walsh: PW>>> He's struggling away trying to get himself sorted out with PW>>> a QWK reader for use on his work's Big Blue Compatable PC PW>>> and his STe is still on the blink (for >6Mths :-O) so be PW>>> patient and gentle with him to start with :) SC> SC> We won't have time to laugh about someone trying to set up one of SC> "those" machines, we're still watching the saga of the last one. He SC> should be ready in a month...or two. SC> TeeHee :-)Yours Roy--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: Node body nodes the trouble I've been :-) (42:42/14) 32 08-09-9614:54All Colin Fisher-McAllum Mag Cover Disks 0 6 *Hi All SFB> Descrip: Platform Game originally given in St Review and then in the SFB> final issue of ST FormatI thought it worth a quick reminder here...Just because a program is "given away" on a magazine cover disk does notnecessarily mean the archive may be freely distributed on a BBS.Please check the status of files.The file that came with the above description is infact freeware and thereforefreely distributable. Regards Colin--- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: Col's byte on the side! (FFFnet 42:42/6) 33 08-09-9619:05All JetMail AreaFix Area added/removed 0 3 *The following area was automatically added by JetMail AreaFix:N.LOCAL.NEW_FILES ........... [b] No description availableLink was established to 90:100/0@nest.ftn 34 08-09-9620:32All SysOp User Upload 0 4 *42BBS user uploads:===================Filename: FOOMS.TXTLength: 19907 bytesDescrip: Fooms: A short X Files parody. It's quite funny. (Has nothing to do with "Tooms" by the way.===================Thank you for your support :-)Regards, Colin--- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 35 08-09-9623:00All SysOp User Upload 0 4 *42BBS user uploads:===================Filename: MPLYR133.ZIPLength: 33953 bytesDescrip: New version of the excellent M_PLAYER for AVI/MOV/FLx files Shareware===================Thank you for your support :-)Regards, Colin--- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 36 08-10-9604:37All JetMail AreaFix Area added/removed 0 3 *The following area was automatically added by JetMail AreaFix:N.NET.NOTICE.FILES .......... [b] No description availableLink was established to 90:100/0@nest.ftn 37 08-10-9606:35All Colin Fisher-McAllum New Files 0 6 * The latest files to escape from the Vogon Constructor Fleet are...90_NLIST NeST Nodelist ==============================================================================NESTLIST.L22 13811 NeSTList for day 222, dated 9/August/1996, issue number 340------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 13811 Bytes in 1 File(s)Total: 13811 Bytes in 1 File(s) ENJOY! 38 08-10-9610:40All SysOp User Upload 0 4 *42BBS user uploads:===================Filename: MADPOET.ZIPLength: 26498 bytesDescrip: A program for making poems automaticcaly from a list of words stored on disk. Quite funny!!===================Thank you for your support :-)Regards, Colin--- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 39 08-10-9616:07All SysOp User Upload 0 6 *42BBS user uploads:===================Filename: 42BBS2.JPGLength: 15893 bytesDescrip: Pic of Col's new setup for 42BBSFilename: 42BBS3.JPGLength: 16900 bytesDescrip: An alternative view of Col's 42BBS setupFilename: ROY.JPGLength: 14859 bytesDescrip: JPEG of Roy Goring (cause he complained before!!!) :-)Filename: SICOWARD.JPGLength: 14313 bytesDescrip: JPEG of Simon Coward ... :-)===================Thank you for your support :-)Regards, Colin--- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 40 08-10-9617:13All SysOp User Upload 0 4 *42BBS user uploads:===================Filename: CPX_CONT.TOSLength: 148210 bytesDescrip: CPX Modules for use in X-Control accessory program===================Thank you for your support :-)Regards, Colin--- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 41 08-10-9618:28All SysOp User Upload 0 4 *42BBS user uploads:===================Filename: TENNIS.TOSLength: 26388 bytesDescrip: Full Tennis Game Atari ST (Medium Resolution)===================Thank you for your support :-)Regards, Colin--- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 42 08-11-9604:37All JetMail AreaFix Area added/removed 0 3 *The following area was automatically added by JetMail AreaFix:N.ST.FORMAT ................. [b] No description availableLink was established to 90:100/0@nest.ftn 43 08-11-9604:37All JetMail AreaFix Area added/removed 0 3 *The following area was automatically added by JetMail AreaFix:N.SUP.OASIS_ICE ............. [b] No description availableLink was established to 90:100/0@nest.ftn 44 08-11-9604:37All JetMail AreaFix Area added/removed 0 3 *The following area was automatically added by JetMail AreaFix:N.MISC.CONSOLE .............. [b] No description availableLink was established to 90:100/0@nest.ftn 45 08-11-9604:37All JetMail AreaFix Area added/removed 0 3 *The following area was automatically added by JetMail AreaFix:N.SUP.QBBS_ST ............... [b] No description availableLink was established to 90:100/0@nest.ftn 46 08-11-9610:36All SysOp User Upload 0 4 *42BBS user uploads:===================Filename: MIDI_2.TOSLength: 28708 bytesDescrip: Midi Files Two (Atari)===================Thank you for your support :-)Regards, Colin--- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 47 08-11-9611:23All SysOp User Upload 0 5 *42BBS user uploads:===================Filename: GEODISK.ZIPLength: 126245 bytesDescrip: This is a program for making strange "geodisks". The documentation for the program explains it more fully. Hi-Res only.===================Thank you for your support :-)Regards, Colin--- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 48 08-12-9605:40All JetMail AreaFix Area added/removed 0 3 *The following area was automatically added by JetMail AreaFix:N.NET.SEE ................... [b] No description availableLink was established to 90:100/0@nest.ftn 49 08-12-9605:41All JetMail AreaFix Area added/removed 0 3 *The following area was automatically added by JetMail AreaFix:N.MISC.PALMTOPS ............. [b] No description availableLink was established to 90:100/0@nest.ftn 50 08-12-9622:50All SysOp User Upload 0 4 *42BBS user uploads:===================Filename: LABELCAD.ZIPLength: 214081 bytesDescrip: A program for designing disk labels. Very comprehensive and lots of examples to get you started with.===================Thank you for your support :-)Regards, Colin--- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 51 08-13-9605:38All JetMail AreaFix Area added/removed 0 3 *The following area was automatically added by JetMail AreaFix:N.ST.PROG.ASM ............... [b] No description availableLink was established to 90:100/0@nest.ftn 52 08-13-9606:35All Colin Fisher-McAllum New Files 0 5 * The latest files from the Network...OCTOPUS Octopus Beta ==============================================================================OBANK110.ZIP 21802 altered TBANK.SCR file ~ now works fully under magic.------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 21802 Bytes in 1 File(s)Total: 21802 Bytes in 1 File(s) ENJOY! 53 08-13-9618:52All SysOp User Upload 0 4 *42BBS user uploads:===================Filename: SAMPLES.TOSLength: 199954 bytesDescrip: A few AVR samples to add to your collection===================Thank you for your support :-)Regards, Colin--- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 54 08-14-9612:57All Colin Fisher-McAllum New File 0 4 *QWKBAK02.ZIP [17906 bytes]is an upgrade to the QWK/REP backup prg in QWKBAK01.ZIP.New features. Backs up to any partition, can handle 5 backups in one day.Files can be backed up or backed up and deleted. FREEWARE--- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 55 08-14-9621:58All SysOp User Upload 0 6 *42BBS user uploads:===================Filename: STGRAPHS.ZIPLength: 306681 bytesDescrip: urrmmm. Some old ST graphics I drew a long time ago. Some are unfinished but they are free to use in your games if you are totally desperate (you would have to be) as long as you only give me credit for the best pictures that you use. Simon Wyndham===================Thank you for your support :-)Regards, Colin--- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 56 08-15-9601:53All SysOp User Upload 0 6 *42BBS user uploads:===================Filename: FASTBOOT.TXTLength: 1051 bytesDescrip: Text file on how to remove the 3 second wait with the ICD Host Adapter driver. I tried the ICD_PSU.* file but it didn't seem to work on my ICDBOOT.SYS file V6.5.5 - but this file tells you how to hack it! And remember - allways back up your drive before trying stunts like this!!===================Thank you for your support :-)Regards, Colin--- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 57 08-15-9606:35All Colin Fisher-McAllum New Files 0 12 * The latest files from the Network...F.APP.GRAPH Graphic Apps ==============================================================================MPLYR136.ZIP 36663 Play sound in real time - French and English------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 36663 Bytes in 1 File(s)F.COMM.FIDO Comms Fido ==============================================================================AVAL_377.LZH 482218 included.LED_145.LZH 672781 1.45 *** Der MsgReader fuer den ST/TT/F030. Viele neue Features ***------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1154999 Bytes in 2 File(s)F.COMM.UUCP FAN: Comms UUCP ==============================================================================ANT7_9.ZIP 93552 Antmail 0.7.9! E-mail program for use with STiK.FIST241B.ZIP 50072 gateway.dat rename batch.txt --> batch.old etc. Many new features !------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 143624 Bytes in 2 File(s)Total: 1335286 Bytes in 5 File(s) ENJOY! 58 08-15-9621:03All SysOp User Upload 0 4 *42BBS user uploads:===================Filename: HYDROXID.ZIPLength: 1086570 bytesDescrip: A new demo from Hydroxid, now released but previewed at Symposium 96.===================Thank you for your support :-)Regards, Colin--- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 59 08-16-9606:35All Colin Fisher-McAllum New Files 0 8 * The latest files from the Network...F.NET.LIST FanFiles Nodelist ==============================================================================FANFLIST.Z29 3983 The Latest Zipped FanFiles Node List------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 3983 Bytes in 1 File(s)FISHLISTS FishNet Nodelist ==============================================================================FISHLIST.Z29 2627 The Latest FishList------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 2627 Bytes in 1 File(s)Total: 6610 Bytes in 2 File(s) ENJOY! 49 08-09-9621:43Colin Fisher-McAllum Jonathan Nott Re: NetMail 0 5 *Hi Colin, ...you said to Jonathan Nott:JN>> I have only needed to do this once or twice, so I sent to theJN>> hosting node and it was readdressed. Worked fine.CF> CF> That's a good workaround.Soon I'll be able to forget all this nonsense - what bliss :)BFN, Jon* Kivi 1.41a * "What's this fish doing in my ear?"--- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 50 08-10-9614:21Colin Fisher-McAllum Simon Wyndham re: MusicNet 0 5 *Theres not much in the conspiricies area either.Simon-----------------------------------------------------------------------" concentrate on the finger or you will miss all the heavenly gloreee"-----------------------------------------------------------------------simon@guarlfrd.demon.co.uk* Kivi (unregistered) 1.41 * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 19 08-10-9616:09All Colin Fisher-McAllum Wanted 0 3 *A non-online [yet] WAG member is after a copy of STraight FAX.If you have a copy for sale contact George on 01256-22491--- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 20 08-11-9616:46All Roy Goring STE for sale 0 6 *For SaleSTE 4Mb TOS 1.62 + Second D/S floppy 150Atari SC1224 Colour Monitor 100SCSI 170Mb Hard Drive 12050Mb bare Hard Drive 30Take the whole lot for 300Contact Roy Goring 01705-611847 tel & faxor Netmailor Email rgoring@zetnet.co.ukor rgoring@cix.compulink.co.ukYours Royrgoring@zetnet.co.uk or rgoring if you're on CixJoin Wessex Atari Group now on 42BBS 01256-895106--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: Node body nodes the trouble I've been :-) (42:42/14) 21 08-11-9616:59All Roy Goring STE for sale 0 6 *For SaleSTE 4Mb TOS 1.62 + Second D/S floppy 150Atari SC1224 Colour Monitor 100SCSI 170Mb Hard Drive 12050Mb bare Hard Drive 30Take the whole lot for 300Contact Roy Goring 01705-611847 tel & faxor Netmailor Email rgoring@zetnet.co.ukor rgoring@cix.compulink.co.ukYours Royrgoring@zetnet.co.uk or rgoring if you're on CixJoin Wessex Atari Group now on 42BBS 01256-895106--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: Node body nodes the trouble I've been :-) (42:42/14) 22 08-12-9613:07All Roy Goring STE reposting 0 5 *Reposting due to some of it soldFor SaleSTE 4Mb TOS 1.62 130Atari SC1224 Colour Monitor 100SCSI 170Mb bare Hard Drive 100I am open to offers :-)Contact Roy Goring 01705-611847 tel & faxor Netmailor Email rgoring@zetnet.co.ukor rgoring@cix.compulink.co.uk--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: Node body nodes the trouble I've been :-) (42:42/14) 23 08-13-9606:23Roy Goring Simon Coward Re: STE reposting 0 3 *In a message of 12 Aug 96 Roy Goring (42:42/14) wrote to All : RG> I am open to offers :-)I don't think personal services are allowed in this echo ;->regards Simon--- ScanMail 0.70 * Origin: Launched through 42BBS (42:42/17) 24 08-13-9620:18Simon Coward Roy Goring Re: STE reposting 0 4 *Hi Simon, .....You said to Roy Goring RG>> I am open to offers :-) SC> SC> I don't think personal services are allowed in this echo ;-> SC> I'm not going to answer this, for the fear of being cut off :-)Yours Roy--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: Node body nodes the trouble I've been :-) (42:42/14) 50 08-13-9612:40Jonathan Nott Kevin Beardsworth Re: Last minute! 0 5 *Hi Jonathan, you said in a message to Kevin Beardsworth KB>> How's about a Web site of the month then, not including yours KB>> or ours :) JN> JN> Er, I just started this for ANL... Ooooops :) Well you did ask for ideas :) BTW you've done a grand job with the online pages, nice one. BCNU, *Kev*--- ScanMail 0.70 * Origin: The Millennium Falcon, Hitchin' A Ride On 42BBS (42:42/1) 49 08-10-9617:19Paul Walsh Daniel Challen Possible Articles 0 5 *Paul Walsh wrote to Mike Kerslake about "Possible Articles":PW> MK> here after Colin, but that Roy chap got here first ;-) PW> He does interject prematurely :-)That's no way to talk about the man behind his back, no matter what problems he .... oh, sorry _"interject"_, er. carry onTee hee,- Dan* Kivi (unregistered) 1.41a * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 50 08-11-9622:05Jonathan Nott Joe Connor Re: Press Release - MJK00 0 79 *Hi Jon, JN> Cool - I've already converted in into HTML... I haven't used JN> plain pre-formatted text, but proper lists, tables,etc - took a whileBummer we changed the table and some of the other details :-|Here's the latest press release, please spread this far and wide:Press release (11th August 1996)==========================================================================Mike Kerslake, a magazine publisher with over fifteen years experience has signed up Frank Charlton, ex features editor for ST Format and Joe Connor, ex Reader Disk/Public Arena editor for Atari World as joint editors for a NEW printed Atari magazine called Atari Computing.The launch issue of Atari Computing will feature sixty A4 pages crammed with quality editorial. We're delighted to welcome contributions from respected and well known journalists including Graeme Rutt, Jon Ellis, Denesh Bhabuta and Kev Beardsworth.We're delighted to announce we've signed a deal with the two leading disk based magazines, AtariPhile and Maggie to publish regular sections within the magazine. If you've never seen a disk magazine before we think you'll be amazed to find out what you've been missing!The launch issue will be on sale at the forthcoming Atari shows so why not attend and meet us? The shows will be held on Saturday September 28th in Birmingham and Sunday September 29th in London, for more details about the shows contact: Goodman International, Telephone: +44 (0)1782 335650.Issue one preview--------------------------------------------------------------------------Issue one is still in the planning stage but here's just some of the articles we're working on:* News and gossip put together by Graeme Rutt and Frank Charlton including details about the Atari Computing website.* Software reviews including HD-Driver by Jon Ellis, Deadlands by Nial Grimes.* PD/Shareware reviews of Start Me Up!, CoMa, 7up, and INcontrol by Joe Connor, Denesh Bhabuta and Carl Lofgren.* Review of MagiC 4 by Kev Beardsworth and preview of MagiC v5 by Thomas Binder.* Music and MIDI primer by Ed McGlone.* RSC file editing introduction by Mark Baines.* Introduction to Comms by Harry Sideras and Internet feature by Frank Charlton.* User group reports co-ordinated by Al Goold including feature on Spanish Atarians by Andrew Harvey* Atari Jaguar coverage* Guest pages for AtariPhile, Maggie and Calamus User* Q&A and letters pagesRemember this list is provisonal, some articles may not appear and others may take their place!Background--------------------------------------------------------------------------Following the closure of Atari World earlier this year it has just been announced ST Format, the final UK newstand publication, has also closed. It's the end of an era in the UK which for the first time since 1987 has no Atari newstand presence.The men in grey suits are telling us to move onto other platforms but hang on a minute, let's take stock of the situation...- Atari machines can be purchased and repaired on a shoestring- Atari machines can produce superb printed output- Atari machines can surf the Internet and run BBSs- Atari machines can form the nucleus of a digital music studio- New software of better quality than ever before is still being released!That doesn't sound like a dead platform! The Atari platform has been emulated by just about every other platform, we're owners of cult machines! Have you ever noticed ex-Atarians animatedly talking about the 'Good old days' it's a feel good factor missing from all the current machines.We don't need a new platform but we do need information and a printed magazine is undoubtedly the best way to ensure we see in the new millenium!Apart from a darn good read the other thing most of us like is some new software to play with. The Reader Disk concept offers all readers the chance to get their hands on the hottest new software around along with exclusive versions not available anywhere else. We intend to offer one Reader Disk to accompany each issue, buy it or not, the choice is yours!What we need, now more than ever before, is your support. It's going to be tough to keep going so we're initially planning bi-monthly releases -but this could change, it's really up to you! Instead of wishing us luck post a cheque to reserve your copy today!Ordering==========================================================================As we're sure you'll appreciate launching a new magazine is a risky business requiring pinpoint budget management. Our print run will be conservative and we don't expect to have a stock of back issues.We're not a newstand publication so don't bother looking in the shops. The Atari platform needs this magazine and we need your subscription so do yourself and us a favour, take out a subscription or order an evaluation copy today!>>> Fast feedback request -->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>If you're on-line we'd like to hear from you right now! We're keen to get an idea of demand for the mag. To reserve copies send an empty email with the title line: KEEP and if you'd like two copies simply add the number afterwards: KEEP 2 etc, thanks for taking part!Email: atari_w_admin@cix.compulink.co.ukSubscriptions--------------------------------------------------------------------------Many of you (and most of us) lost money following the Atari World debacle and we're determined not to make the same mistake. Atari Computing subscriptions are refundable at any time. Cancel your subscription in writing and we'll return any outstanding credit to you, minus a deduction to cover our costs. If you order an evaluation copy we won't cash your payment until we've printed the magazine, simple eh?United Kingdom--------------Send cheque/PO made payable to the 'Atari Computing Group' to:Mike Kerslake42 Larch HillHandsworthSheffieldS9 4AJTelephone/Fax: +44 (0)114 2618940 - 10am to 6pm, Monday to SaturdayEmail: mkerslake@cix.compulink.co.ukInitially we're offering a single evaluation copy or three issue subscriptions at the following rates inclusive of post and packing:************ All prices in UK Sterling where = British Pounds *********+-----------------------------------------------------------------------+| | | | | || Evaluation Copy | UK | Europe | USA/Canada | Other ||-------------------+---------+---------+------------+------------------+| Magazine only | 3.00 | 3.50 | 4.00 | 5.00 | |With Reader Disk | 5.00 | 5.50 | 6.00 | 7.00 |+-------------------+---------+---------+------------+------------------+| | | | | | |Subscription | UK | Europe | USA/Canada | ||-------------------+---------+---------+------------+------------------+| Magazine only | 9.00 | 11.50 | 12.00 | 13.00 | |With Reader Disk | 15.00 | 17.50 | 18.00 | 19.00 |+-----------------------------------------------------------------------+If you want to order a magazine and none of the above rates apply to you, just email us and we will give you a price.If you're outside the UK------------------------- Make certain your payment is *in Sterling* drawn on a *UK* bank address The following methods work: -International Bank draft/cheque in Sterling -Eurocheque made out in Sterling -International Post Office cheque payable in Sterling -Cash, Sterling, in a registered letter!Country specific information----------------------------Canada: Canadian Post Office money orders made out in Sterling are perfect and inexpensive!Australia: We don't want any of your pretty plastic Aussie dollars :-)(N/Z) Get down to your local Post Office and get a money order made out in Sterling, it's not expensive.Europe: In general Post Office money orders or Eurocheques are the best way to pay.USA: What a nightmare! Can we suggest a day trip to a Canadian post office? An International money order (add 5 to order total) made out in Sterling drawn on a UK banking address is currently the best solution. Sterling Amex travellers cheques (add 5 to order total) or cash, Sterling, in a registered letter are acceptable.We aim to make Atari Computing available directly from authorised User groups and other outlets around the world and wherever possible please use your local distributor:Germany-------Thorsten ButschkeEmail: Thorsten_Butschke@s.maus.de (No emails >16K please)Other-----We're expecting to be able to announce local support for Scandanavia, Australasia and North America RSN!...Advertisers--------------------------------------------------------------------------We have a limited number of pages set aside each issue. These are realistically priced to attract everyone in the Atari marketplace. To discuss your requirements please contact Mike Kerslake at the address above.Submissions--------------------------------------------------------------------------We're always on the lookout for talented new contributors so if you've got an idea for an article please do get in touch.Who are we?--------------------------------------------------------------------------Atari Computing is financed by the Atari Computing Group, based on CIX, and dedicated to supporting the Atari platform. Membership of the group is by invitation only. We're looking forward to Issue 1 as much as you are!RegardsThe Atari Computing Group (A|C|G)------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ScanMail 0.70 * Origin: InterActive (42:42/4) 51 08-11-9622:11Mike Kerslake Joe Connor Re: New Atari Magazine 0 4 *Hi Mike, MS>> Oooops, I just have :-) MK> We'll sort it :-)You mean *I'll* sort it I guess :-)So far, 56 off CIX Internet email orders, 57 cix orders, and whatever NeSTmembers do is on top of that, so we're up and running but I'm aiming todouble this so send in your subs ;-)RegardsJoeCo-editor Atari Computing--- ScanMail 0.70 * Origin: InterActive (42:42/4) 52 08-13-9607:47Stephen Fairclough BarszcMike Kerslake New Atari Magazine 0 6 *Stephen Fairclough Barszc wrote to Mike Kerslake:SF> STE>one for me as I don't want to miss it.SF> STE>I enjoy a good read and miss my monthly mag already.SF> STE>I hope to get to the Atari show to collect my copy personallySF> STE>and all being well I will take out a subscription while there.I look forward to meeting you at the show (Birmingham), and other AC people will be at the London show as well :-)ATB, Mike* Kivi 1.41a * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 53 08-13-9607:47Jonathan Nott Mike Kerslake Re: Press Release - MJK00 0 6 *Jonathan Nott wrote to Mike Kerslake:JN> Cool - I've already converted in into HTML... I haven't usedJN> plain JN> pre-formatted text, but proper lists, tables,etc - took a while :)JN> JN> After this weekend it'll be online at:JN> JN> http://www.walusoft.co.uk/anl/acg.htmI'll have a look then :-)JN> JN>> Expect my 15 cheque any day now :)JN> MK> Ta very much!JN> JN> Should be with you by now !It is - ta very much :-)ATB, Mike* Kivi 1.41a * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 54 08-13-9607:47All Mike Kerslake The Magazine 0 5 *Hi everyoneWork is progressing well on the magazine. Articles are being written and subbed, pages are being laid out, etc etcThanks to everyone that has already sent in sub payments and letters of support, along with various ideas and suggestions. It's all very welcome, and thanks to everyone for taking the time :-)ATB, Mike* Kivi 1.41a * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 55 08-13-9610:31Mike Kerslake Paul Leonard Re: The Magazine 0 5 * MK>> Work is progressing well on the magazine. Articles are being written MK>> and subbed, pages are being laid out, etc etc MK>> Thanks to everyone that has already sent in sub payments and letters MK>> of support, along with various ideas and suggestions. It's all very MK>> welcome, and thanks to everyone for taking the time :-)Hi Mike,Thats what were hear for :)RegardsPaul L--- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 56 08-15-9622:41Mike Kerslake Phill Hills The Magazine 0 4 *Mike Kerslake wrote to All:MK> Work is progressing well on the magazine. Articles are being written and MK> subbed, pages are being laid out, etc etcHi MikeCheque's in the post. when can we expect the first issue?Regards....Phill* Kivi (unregistered) 1.41a * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 47 08-10-9617:19Jonathan Nott Daniel Challen Re: Your pages 0 6 *Jonathan Nott wrote to Joe Connor about "Re: Your pages":JN> Is that shareware??Nope, commercial, there's a demo knocking around though.JN> If not, are there any shareware RSC editors?There's a resource /creator/ (very, very basic version of a RSC editor) called Make rsc, and I've heard of a resource editor called RED - but I have been looking for it for ages for myself & so far have had no luck. Anyone else know?JN> I don't have one, y'see!Same prob here.- Dan* Kivi (unregistered) 1.41a * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (FFFnet 42:42/0) 48 08-10-9619:13Daniel Challen Simon Coward Re: Your pages 0 5 *In a message of 10 Aug 96 Daniel Challen (42:42/0) wrote to Jonathan Nott: DC> There's a resource /creator/ (very, very basic version of a RSC DC> editor) called Make rsc, and I've heard of a resource editor called DC> RED - but I have been looking for it for ages for myself & so far DC> have had no luck. Anyone else know? DC>There was K-Resource as a cover dik on ST Review if you have a copy.regards Simon--- ScanMail 0.70 * Origin: Point 17 on 42BBS (42:42/17) 49 08-11-9621:57Jonathan Nott Joe Connor Re: Your pages 0 4 *Hi Jon, JC>> Yes, Interface, ackshully :-) JN> Is that shareware??No commercial, about 50 JN> If not, are there any shareware RSC editors?There will be soon ;-)An updated ORCS is in the InterActive pipeline, this is a nice program.RegardsJoe--- ScanMail 0.70 * Origin: InterActive (42:42/4) 50 08-11-9621:59Daniel Challen Joe Connor Re: Your pages 0 5 *Hi Daniel, DC> There's a resource /creator/ (very, very basic version of a RSC DC> editor) called Make rsc, and I've heard of a resource editor called DC> RED - but I have been looking for it for ages for myself & so far DC> have had no luck. Anyone else know?Yes, Red is all in German, programmed by Holger Weets, the ST-Guide author andInterActive stalwart. We don't plan to release an English version. Wait forORCS.RegardsJoe--- ScanMail 0.70 * Origin: InterActive (42:42/4) 54 08-09-9620:34Spencer Davies Jonathan Nott Re: For Sale. 0 4 *Hi Spencer, ...you said to Jonathan Nott:SD> I know they gave the software away BUT this is the full packageSD> plus two booksSD> on desktop publishing! Much more than the Atari World offer.OKBFN, Jon* Kivi 1.41a * "I said I'd have to think about it, didn't I?"--- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (NeST 90:102/166) 55 08-08-9601:27Steve Sweet Harry Sideras Re: For Sale. 0 9 **Hi Steve*, on 06 Aug 96 you wrote to *Spencer Davies*: ...iranooohhhh SD>>>> Timeworks 2 plus two manuals on Desktop Publishing with it. 20UKP JN>>> Come on man, who's gonna buy this when Atari World gave it away :-)I guess they gave it away if you had a reader disk sub, but otherwise it was9.50 for the Reader Disks, Either 10 or 15 for v2.04 plus more for themanual. I reckon AW's 'freebie' cost the best part of 40! SS> And this is one bastard programme that benefits from having a pukka SS> manual if your not versed with this type of proggie.You know, I've never read those manuals. I never had TW1 and only ever readthe quickie beta instructions to TW2 Regards,Sid CeleryUK Association of Atari User Groups** Do you want Celery with that? **-= What do you mean I'm fired, I own the friggin place!! =---- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: Can I just do it until I have to wear glasses? (90:102/143) 56 08-08-9601:00Dale Wright Samuel Davidson Gettysburg 0 2 *Hello,Did you get the cheque ok??--- ScanMail 0.69 * Origin: -=- The Tara Plantation -=- (90:100/111) 57 08-05-9620:45All Carl Hender FS: ST stuff 0 11 *From: "Anthony P. Hamilton" Organization: POW ProductionsTo: carl@hender.dungeon.comDate sent: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 12:10:03 0Subject: ST Stuff for saleSend reply to: conan@enterprise.netPriority: normal*Send replys either to me or direct to Anthony be email*Software:4 quid:STOS The Games Creator (includes everything).3 quid:BloodwychBloodwych Data Disks #1Laser SquadDrakkhenBattle MasterChaos Strikes Back2 quid:De JavuZork IIFOFTSDISim CitySleeping Gods LieRock Star Ate My HamsterVindicatorsPhobiaBlasteroidsCastle MasterBooks:Compute's Technical Reference Guid. Atari ST: TOS. (offeres)Cables:An Atari ST video to scart lead. (offeres)Hardware:Syncro Express (Disk copier: requires ext floppy drive) (offeres).Competition Pro joystick (offeres). Bye, /Carl/<< Atari Falcon030\605HD\HPDJ600<->486DX4\75\8Mb+CDROM >><< *carl@hender.dungeon.com* >><< http://www.dungeon.com/~hender/index.html >>--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl7 eta * Origin: Carls very own Node (90:102/205) 58 08-08-9621:46All Darren Hook Sale now on 0 17 * Hi All! Got some bits 'n pieces for SALE... Hardware Ultimate Ripper - 8 Falcon Wing SIMM adaptor - 20 Supra 2400 modem - 25 2 sets of 4 x 1Mb 30-pin SAMSUNG SIMM's 80ns(?) - 50 4 x 1Mb 30-pin TOPLESS SIMM's 70ns - 55 106Mb Quantum LP105S SCSI bare HD mechanism - 80 Star LC10 Colour printer with cable - 85 Golden Image hand scanner & TouchUp v1.8 & Migraph OCR & Silhouette & Easy Draw 3 & Draw Art & Scan Art clip art - 160 (no splitting!) 1040 STE with SM124 mono monitor - 160 (no split!) Games & Software Kick Off 2 - 5 Another World - 8 Captive - 8 Sim City/Populous - 8 SpeedoGDOS v4.1 - 10 3D Construction Kit - 10 HiSoft Hispeed Pascal v1.5 - 30 Books Electronics (Macmillan Master Series) - 3 ST BASIC Sourcebook and Tutorial with Quick Reference Guide - 3 The Trek Universal Index - 4 Introducing Atari ST Machine Code book with disk - 6 Crash Course in C (The Fastest Way to Learn C!) - 6 Computer Studies for BTEC (good for you college students?) - 8 Harlekin 2 boxed manual - 10 Magazines ST Format 10-50, 55, 57, 64 ST Review 1, 5-16, 25-35 ST User 52-59, 61-75, 77 & 78, 80-81, 84-88, 90-91, 97, 99 All come with their original cover disks... disk-less 40p each, single-disk 60p each, and double-disk issues for 80p. Please, I'd prefer only to split mags between ranges. Miscellaneous Game Boy with Tetris & The Chessmaster - 25 (no split) 5 'empty' BJ10 ink cartridges (BC01) - 3 each All stuff in excellent condition, including complete manuals and original boxing etc.. P&P NOT included, UK only. Netmail me if interested...--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta [IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta] * Origin: Hooky's Happy House (90:102/151@nest.ftn) 59 08-11-9601:44All Samuel Davidson Console games 4 sale 0 8 *Hello All,===========================Atari Jaguar games for sale===========================Troy Aikman's Football - 15 pounds --Hoverstrike - 15 pounds |=or all 3 for 35 Dragon:The Bruce Lee Story - 15 pounds --===============================Sony Playstation games for sale===============================Panzer General - 40 poundsMagic Carpet - 40 poundsPsychic Detective - 35 poundsNFL Game Day - 30 poundsActua Soccer - 25 poundsWipeout - 25 poundsTekken - 25 poundsThunderhawk 2 'Firestorm' - 25 poundsKrazy Ivan - 20 poundsPrices include p&pReply in either netmail (90:100/111) or in here (N.MISC.4SALE).--- ScanMail 0.69 * Origin: -=- The Tara Plantation -=- (90:100/111) 60 08-11-9616:46All Roy Goring STE for sale 0 6 *For SaleSTE 4Mb TOS 1.62 + Second D/S floppy 150Atari SC1224 Colour Monitor 100SCSI 170Mb Hard Drive 12050Mb bare Hard Drive 30Take the whole lot for 300Contact Roy Goring 01705-611847 tel & faxor Netmailor Email rgoring@zetnet.co.ukor rgoring@cix.compulink.co.ukYours Royrgoring@zetnet.co.uk or rgoring if you're on CixJoin Wessex Atari Group now on 42BBS 01256-895106--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: Node body nodes the trouble I've been :-) (90:100/310) 61 08-11-9616:59All Roy Goring STE for sale 0 6 *For SaleSTE 4Mb TOS 1.62 + Second D/S floppy 150Atari SC1224 Colour Monitor 100SCSI 170Mb Hard Drive 12050Mb bare Hard Drive 30Take the whole lot for 300Contact Roy Goring 01705-611847 tel & faxor Netmailor Email rgoring@zetnet.co.ukor rgoring@cix.compulink.co.ukYours Royrgoring@zetnet.co.uk or rgoring if you're on CixJoin Wessex Atari Group now on 42BBS 01256-895106--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: Node body nodes the trouble I've been :-) (90:100/310) 62 08-09-9622:40Harry Sideras Steve Sweet Re: For Sale. 0 6 *Yo! Harry Dude!Whilst under caution Harry said to Officer Steve :~) SS>> And this is one bastard programme that benefits from having a pukka SS>> manual if your not versed with this type of proggie. HS> You know, I've never read those manuals. I never had TW1 and only HS> ever read the quickie beta instructions to TW2 And your the same plank who said you'd need a manual to be able to drivePapyrus, the same guy who cant get text to flow between frames in TW2?. 8~) Regards from STEve & his nice warm cosey PAK'd MegaSTE.--- JetMail 0.99beta22 * Origin: Steve's Warm Cosey Private Node :~) (Nest 90:102/142) 63 08-10-9611:25All Derryck Croker HP510 DeskJet 0 3 *Boxed with manuals and nearly new ink cart 90.Regards, Derryck** End of Derryck's Dribbles ~{:~)-= The Christmas spirit is not something to drink.--- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: Derryck's point at the Tavern (Nest 90:102/140.24) 64 08-03-9619:10Jonathan Nott Dale Wright Re: WANTED DESPERATELY! 0 4 *These words of wisdom from Jonathan Nott were uttered to Dale Wright on the 31Jul 96: Hi Jonathan... DW>> Thanks for letting me know Jonathan. JN> JN> You don't know anyone who'll wanna buy my old 14,4k, do you :))No i don't sorry.ATB..Dale :-))--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: Dales Node via Ad-Lib... (90:100/401) 65 08-11-9619:23all Paul Simmonds Wanted - Mono Monitor 0 5 *Hi,I am looking for an SM124 or any other Atari Mono Monitor.Anyone got one going spare?Willing to pay any reasonable price or swap/part-ex with a 535meg SCSI HD.P. -[> T.G.M <]- Yorkshire's BeST BBs for Atari Support Give us a call NOW on (01274) 787361~ If you want your spouse to listen and pay strict attention to every word yousay, talk in your sleep. ~--- /\/\idas v1.00.m10 * Origin: -[> T.G.M <]- Wow! A 33.6k-bps modem! (90:100/112.0) 66 08-12-9613:07All Roy Goring STE reposting 0 5 *Reposting due to some of it soldFor SaleSTE 4Mb TOS 1.62 130Atari SC1224 Colour Monitor 100SCSI 170Mb bare Hard Drive 100I am open to offers :-)Contact Roy Goring 01705-611847 tel & faxor Netmailor Email rgoring@zetnet.co.ukor rgoring@cix.compulink.co.uk--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: Node body nodes the trouble I've been :-) (90:100/310) 67 08-11-9610:59Jonathan Nott Stephen Fairclough BarszcFor Sale Items. 0 4 *JN> TKR 14,400 modem (ask for details) offersJN> I am interest how much do you want for it and do you have detail's about itlike does it have a manual?Is it haye's compatable?* Kivi (unregistered) 1.41a * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: THE TAVERN 44-(0)181-445-6514 24 HOURS (NeST 90:102/140) 68 08-11-9601:39Steve Sweet Harry Sideras Re: For Sale. 0 9 **Hi Steve*, on 09 Aug 96 you wrote: ...respect, brethren SS>>> And this is one bastard programme that benefits from having a pukka SS>>> manual if your not versed with this type of proggie. HS>> You know, I've never read those manuals. I never had TW1 and only HS>> ever read the quickie beta instructions to TW2 SS> And your the same plank who said you'd need a manual to be able to SS> drive PapyrusHey, if I could have the programmer at the end of a phone and fax every time Iwanted him I'm sure I'd manage SS> the same guy who cant get text to flow between frames in TW2?. 8~)Actually that was a bug in the version I had. It was fixed in TW 2.04 and I'musing it fine now.Regards,Sid CeleryUK Association of Atari User Groups** Do you want Celery with that? **-= I am Homer of Borg. Prepa... Oh, DONUTS!!!! =---- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: if (dog_age > old) num_tricks = MAXTRICKS; (90:102/143) 69 08-11-9619:19Spencer Davies Martin Nicholson Re: For Sale. 0 3 *Spencer,No problem with collecting...My work phone no is 0171-260-7203. Give me a call and we can arrangesomething.Thanks a lot,Martin.--- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: THE TAVERN 44-(0)181-445-6514 24 HOURS (NeST 90:102/140) 70 08-12-9612:03Samuel Davidson Dale Wright Gettysburg 0 6 *These words of wisdom from Samuel Davidson were uttered to Dale Wright on the08 Aug 96: Hi Samuel... SD> Did you get the cheque ok??Oh shit! Sorry forgot to let you know that i got it ok.I've yet to cash it in as well, i'm lucky if i have time to get to the bankonce every 4-6 weeks, will cash it in the next week or two.ATB..Dale :-))A  *STe/Jaguar/Lynx II & Psion 3a* owner! 24HR Fax:01603-614626.Also: a  *Falcon 030/SyQuest EZ135/28k USR Vi Modem* owner Net-Mail= 90:100/401 E-Mail= *dale1@cix.compulink.co.uk* :-))--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: Dales Node via Ad-Lib... (90:100/401) 71 08-12-9612:29Darren Hook Dale Wright Sale now on 0 6 *These words of wisdom from Darren Hook were uttered to All on the 08 Aug 96: Hi Darren... DH> Falcon Wing SIMM adaptor - 20Is the above to replace the memory board i've already got ie: 4Megs.So i can then upgrade to 14Megs?If so what type of Simms do i need to go with it also to upgrade to 14Megs?ATB..Dale :-))A  *STe/Jaguar/Lynx II & Psion 3a* owner! 24HR Fax:01603-614626.Also: a  *Falcon 030/SyQuest EZ135/28k USR Vi Modem* owner Net-Mail= 90:100/401 E-Mail= *dale1@cix.compulink.co.uk* :-))--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: Dales Node via Ad-Lib... (90:100/401) 72 08-13-9607:47All Mike Kerslake Software for sale 0 6 *Due to various purchases over the last year, I have ended up with spare copies of the following:NVDI 2.5 (Never been upgraded to 3 or 4) - offersHARLEKIN 2 - offersWERCS - offersPROTEXT 4.3 - offersLE REDACTEUR 3.15 (Full English version) - offersAll above with manuals and original packaging, naturally!Can deliver to buyers at Birmingham show if required :-) post here or email: mkerslake@cix.compulink.co.uk mike@coconut.demon.co.ukATB, Mike Kerslake* Kivi 1.41a * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (NeST 90:100/300) 73 08-13-9619:24all Chris Bloy wanted 0 3 *Hi all,Has anyone got a hard drive for sale?-+ Chris +-Image House Software - The STOSware company - "It's alive!"* Kivi 1.41a * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (NeST 90:100/300) 74 08-12-9614:04All Danny Terweij Info tapedrive wanted 0 5 *Hi,Do you know the following information?I own : Archive Cardridge Tape Drive Model : 5945C LR 49250What kind of tapes must i buy/use?What kind of connection has it? (IDE/SCSI)Reply via NetMail or E-Mail.danny_terweij@nextjk.stuyts.nlShill: Guy who loses $2000 at a table, & leaves smiling.--- JetMail 0.99beta22 * Origin: *COZMIC* (Atari) BBS in Stroe (gld) +31-342-443549 (90:500/214) 75 08-14-966:42:All Daron Brewood{EM} For Sale Items. 0 8 *For Sale: Akai VS-4 Programmable video recorder 70.00 14" Colour TV (with broken ON/OFF switch) 80.00 4 Channel Sound mixing desk for Falcon 30.00 Harlekin 3 20.00 Goldrunner 5.00 Tempus II 15.00 Universal Item Selector 5.00 Mouse Tricks II 5.00 Saved! 5.00 Steno v2.00 15.00 --- Mr Happy V1.02 AutoNote [JetMail 0.99beta22] * Origin: NeST WWW: http://www.nest.demon.co.uk/ (NeST 90:100/106) 76 08-15-9619:26all Chris Bloy Modem wanted 0 4 *Hi all,Anyone got a 14.4k ext. modem for sale. I am not worried if it has faxor not. :-)-+ Chris +-LOOK! - E-mail me today:cbloy@fffnet.demon.co.uk - "It's alive!"* Kivi 1.41a * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (NeST 90:100/300) 77 08-14-9614:22All John Richardson Wanted : Real-Time 3D gra 0 3 *Anyone got a copy of the following book they want to flog?Title: Real Time 3D Graphics For The Atari ST.Author: Andrew TylerISBN: 1-85058-217-3Mail me.Jr,--- JetMail 0.99beta22 * Origin: Smack, crack, bushwacked (NeST 90:104/0) 78 08-14-9616:00Dale Wright Harry Sideras Gettysburg 0 5 **Hi Dale*, on 12 Aug 96 you wrote to *Samuel Davidson*: ...respect, brethren DW> Oh shit! Sorry forgot to let you know that i got it ok.See - it's not only me B^{)Regards,Sid CeleryUK Association of Atari User Groups** Do you want Celery with that? **-= Ever stop to think and forget to start again =---- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: When things just can't get any worse, they will. (90:102/143) 2 08-06-9617:00Peter Carr David Henderson Re: Atari on the Internet 0 7 *Ladies and Gentlemen, your appreciation please for Peter Carr and James Pirie: PC> Hmmm! I'm using Oasis2 with HSMODEM06 and connect via Demon no probs PC> -(though had to wait a considerable time to make a connect - however PC> it was a weekend!!). PC> I would have thought that a patch like HSMODEM was important as the PC> standard serial routines are a bit dubious/dodgy I believe. Though PC> your software may already have it's own patch which may conflict.HDMODEM 1 I think being the operative word. :)I've never had a problem with 6 or 7.Yours etc.David. 90:104/115@nest.ftn 2:440/7.2@fidonet.org dhend@zetnet.co.uk--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: Ashford International Building Site II (90:104/115) 3 08-07-9618:12Christian Andersson Jesper Kock Re^4: antmail 0 9 *Hello android Andersson! The 06.08.96 you talked about "antmail",and my replyis: >> What filename problem ?? >> >> But it cured the problem with the 2 characters that sometimes was >> attached to the To: line.. > > Some have had problems when viewing outgoing mail. ;e for instance, the > problem was that the File that was to be Viewed was named '12345678' Or > something similiar, but the file that Ant-Mail told Everest to load was > '1234567'. Ant-mail "Forgot" The last characer in the filename, but as I > sais it is cured for me now! :)Well , i have never had those problems.. My problems is thatsometimes Antmail hangs when dl E-mails.. But the last betahas not hung yet.. So i hope it is fixed.. Dan has had troubles withthat nasty bugger... - Grtz J.Kock,SysOp on /#Kockens BBS#/ +4646250256 *Atari Only* -- kock@kockens.pp.se- -http://www.geocities.com/Broadway/1353 ---Two to beam up.--- ScanMail 0.69 * Origin: -*-Kockens BBS-*- +4646250256 Atari Only. (90:1102/0) 4 08-09-9600:57Colin Docherty Harry Sideras Re: Trust Modem 0 20 **Hi Colin*, on 07 Aug 96 you wrote to *Simon Coward*: ...iranooohhhh SC>> Here are Mike kerslakes TRUST modem settings and he can connect to SC>> 42BBS, I hope it helps. CD> Lots cut, CD> CD> I too have been unable to connect to 42BBS since Colin changed his CD> modem and I too use a Trust AE1414 modem , all these numbers and CD> letters mean something , but not I am afraid to me :( .That makes you a well rounded individual and the likes of me a techie nerd CD> I realise that I have come in half-way through this thread but does CD> this message mean there is a solution,I guess so. CD> if so what is it .Tricky If modems of different makes won't connect then there's probably some wierdmodem setting causing the problem. The list shown is the active settings inMike's modem and this apparently works. You can get the same data fromyourown modem by booting a terminal program (Connect, Teddy Term, Freeze Driedetc) and typing " at&v ".If you print out the settings of Mike's modem and compare them to your ownyou're hopefully going to find some settings that are different. You onlyneed to look at the 'Active Profile' for any of these checks.If, for example, you find he has N1 and you have N0 (or summat) you just needto type atN1 into your terminal and this will be sent to the modem to changeyour own active profile. Similarly, if he has &K3 and you have &K1, justtype " at&K3 ". If he has S02:003 and you have S02:002 you need to type "ats2=3 " for this type of setting (the S registers). You don't need to worryabout the leading zeros (but you do need to type intriling zeros such asats10=14.I have to admit I don't know what the \E0 settings are, unless they show whatthe amendments are (I guess this is quite important to know actually).After doing all this, type at&w1 to save this info into your "stored profile1" and then type at&y1 so that your stored profile 1 becomes the activeprofile whenever you turn the modem on. If ever you need to get back to thefactory settings you can always type at&f at any time.Hopefully that'll sort you out, but no promises...Regards,Sid CeleryUK Association of Atari User Groups** Do you want Celery with that? **-= If it works first time then it's gotta be broke somewhere! =---- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: I'm as confused as a baby in a topless bar. (90:102/143) 5 08-08-9600:41All Steve Dent TeddyTerm 0 5 *Hi, Can someone tell me the current status with TeddyTerm comms software,I have Mark Matts as the person to register the software with.Is TeddyTerm still being supported?Is Mark Matts still in NeST?I have his address as 90:1004/106.3 (from the docs) is this correct????Cheers,Steve D. *** Shooting Clay Pigeons for Sport *** --- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: *** an "Old Age Traveller" from *** ...Ad Lib... (90:100/404) 6 08-07-9617:20Daniel Challen Brian Baird Re: Atari on the Internet 0 4 *In a msg of 05 Aug 96 Daniel Challen peeled off everything to reveal: > You're welcome, Brian. I always like to help. Nice to know it's > welcome (and that my scribblings don't go unnoticed, or indeed > unappreciated ;o) )No probs ;-)Brian--- JetMail 0.99beta12 * Origin: /THM/ (NeST 90:100/113) 7 08-09-9619:23Roy Goring Steven Bagley Re: Help! ppp problems! 0 6 *"Ambassador Goring," asked Steven. "Do you really want to know what's going ondown there right now?""Yes, absolutely," replied Roy.Steven moved forward, and whispered something. RG>>> What have I ever done to you? SB>> SB>> Nothing :) SB>> SB>> See you earlier, SB>> RG> RG> OK, I hope you enjoy reading this yesterday :-)Only after I answered it tomorrow :)See you earlier,Steven InterNet: sbagley@cameo.co.uk FidoNET: 2:2501/101.12 ... NeST: 90:102/203Telemovie--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: The Tardis (90:102/203) 8 08-10-9611:12all Martin Croft Re: Atari on the Internet 0 9 *Well I must say I also found Daniel Challens explanation of the Atari on theinternet interesting . I must admit I had thought a limited access to theinternet ( just to chat and swop a bit of E mail ) would be nice, but it allseems a bit daunting doing it directly through a provider such as ZetnetMy 1 meg ST and 2400 baud modem seems somewhat inadequate and Im not too sureI can afford or justify a huge upgrade. BTW I have just received a newsletterfrom The Atari User Group ( Scotland ) saying that Frank Chalton and co arehoping to stat a new Atari mag ( subscripts only ) and that all the Scottshuser groups are hoping to unite . Ill maybe give BBS 42 a ring as they aresupposed to be supporting AUG Scotland and see what they are saying. Perhaps Ive put this last bit ofinfo in the wrong echo ? Sorry if it is, Im a relative newbe. martin!!!!* (QW|{ 2.6 *--- RAT-QWK+ v1.06 [JetMail 0.99beta9] * Origin: The Ad.Lib BBS Atari~Mac~PC~Sausages 0191 3702659 (90:100/400.0) 9 08-11-9608:15Martin Croft Roy Goring Re: Atari on the Internet 0 8 *Hello Martin, .....You said to all MC> through a provider such as Zetnet My 1 meg ST and 2400 baud modem MC> seems somewhat inadequate and Im not too sure MC> I can afford or justify a huge upgrade. BTW I have just received aMy suggestion is svae your money up and buy a 19200 modem :-)This will open up alot more oportunities, because you are not on the phone solong :-)You should be able to pick up a second hand one for no more than 50 :-)Try posting a wanted in N.MISC.4SALE :-)Please come and join us at 42BBS, you will find that the Scots on there, andthere is a lot of them, get a good roasting from me now and then to keep themon their toes :-pYours Royrgoring@zetnet.co.uk or rgoring if you're on CixJoin Wessex Atari Group now on 42BBS 01256-895106--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: Node body nodes the trouble I've been :-) (90:100/310) 10 08-10-9611:31Steve Dent Derryck Croker TeddyTerm 0 7 *This message from Steve to All came in on a wing and a prayer...Hi Steve! SD> Can someone tell me the current status with TeddyTerm comms software, SD> I have Mark Matts as the person to register the software with.It's no longer shareware, the last version (2.14?) was released as PD. SD> Is TeddyTerm still being supported?No. Mark moved away from Ataris :-( SD> Is Mark Matts still in NeST?I doubt it. SD> I have his address as 90:1004/106.3 (from the docs) is this SD> correct????Try matzy@filesys.demon.co.ukSpeak to 'ya later!** End of Derryck's Dribbles ~{:~)-= I drive a muscle car- with overhead clams.--- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: Derryck's point at the Tavern (Nest 90:102/140.24) 11 08-11-9610:02Simon Coward Peter Carr Re: Atari on the Internet 0 5 *Hi there Simon,In a message of <06.08.96>, Simon Coward (90:102/166.17) writes: SC> In a message of 04 Aug 96 Peter Carr (90:107/0) wrote to James SC> Pirie: SC> I use HSmodem with Zetnet, I wouldn't be without it.It's important to 'Be prepared' eh!? :-)CheersPete>* DW* Hello! where you been? JP> JP> I aint bin anywhere Dale, I've been right here quietly working away JP> at this damned keyboard. I may not have been verbal but I've been JP> watching 8*))Oh no you've been a lurking again haven't you? ;-) JP> DW* the best for the Atari, plus if you contact David Henderson in JP> here &/or DW* the JP> DW* 'N.ST.COMMS.INTERNET' he will be able to help you a lot with JP> this. JP> Yes this seems to be the answer, DAVID HELP!!!!!!! I've got the JP> software installed and set up, but all I seem to be able to do is JP> connect and then nothing happens. I expected the world and got, my JP> "Desktop" > Well it happens to us all at some stage you know >;-)Let us know how you get on would you, & you can always test your e-mail out onme at: dale1@cix.compulink.co.uk JP> DW* ATB..Dale :-)) JP> JP> Yea, nice to hear from you againAnd from you too James, hope your job is still going on strong for you? JP> James.Pirie@Zetnet.co.ukNext time i'm on Cix i'll try e-mailing you ok.ATB..Dale :-))A  *STe/Jaguar/Lynx II & Psion 3a* owner! 24HR Fax:01603-614626.Also: a  *Falcon 030/SyQuest EZ135/28k USR Vi Modem* owner Net-Mail= 90:100/401 E-Mail= *dale1@cix.compulink.co.uk* :-))--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: Dales Node via Ad-Lib... (90:100/401) 13 08-12-9622:53Roy Goring David Buchanan Re: Atari on the Internet 0 4 *Hi Roy, ....you said to Martin Croft:RG> My suggestion is svae your money up and buy a 19200 modem :-) ^^^^^This is a strange type of modem to suggest, I have not heard of this one.RegardsDave * Kivi 1.41a * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (NeST 90:100/300) 14 08-11-9601:42Steve Dent Harry Sideras TeddyTerm 0 8 **Hi Steve*, on 08 Aug 96 you wrote: ...respect, brethren SD> Can someone tell me the current status with TeddyTerm comms software, SD> I have Mark Matts as the person to register the software with. SD> Is TeddyTerm still being supported? SD> Is Mark Matts still in NeST? SD> I have his address as 90:1004/106.3 (from the docs) is this correct????Basically, no to all of those points.Mark did very good support for TT and all his other software, ran a BBS etc,but left the ST scene a few years ago now. v2.14 was his parting gift.Regards,Sid CeleryUK Association of Atari User Groups** Do you want Celery with that? **-= I'll just type a few more lines, then I'll be with you =---- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: Don't be humble. You're not that great. (90:102/143) 15 08-12-9612:14Steve Dent Dale Wright TeddyTerm 0 9 *These words of wisdom from Steve Dent were uttered to All on the 08 Aug 96: Hi Steve... SD> Can someone tell me the current status with TeddyTerm comms software, SD> I have Mark Matts as the person to register the software with. SD> Is TeddyTerm still being supported?NO! Mark no longer supports TeddyTerm, when i first came on to the BBS'snearly 2 years ago now, i sent him a letter with a SAE, i never got any kindof reply back at all & since then it's been confirmed that he no longersupports it. SD> Is Mark Matts still in NeST?Don't think so, i've yet to see him about anywhere, also AFAIK he no longer asany kind of Atari also.ATB..Dale :-))A  *STe/Jaguar/Lynx II & Psion 3a* owner! 24HR Fax:01603-614626.Also: a  *Falcon 030/SyQuest EZ135/28k USR Vi Modem* owner Net-Mail= 90:100/401 E-Mail= *dale1@cix.compulink.co.uk* :-))--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: Dales Node via Ad-Lib... (90:100/401) 16 08-12-9617:46Martin Croft David Henderson Re: Atari on the Internet 0 6 *Ladies and Gentlemen, your appreciation please for Martin Croft and all : MC> would be nice, but it all seems a bit daunting doing it directly MC> through a provider such as Zetnet My 1 meg ST and 2400 baud modem MC> seems somewhat inadequate and Im not too sure I can afford or justify 2,400 is in fact the slowest zetnet will allow to logon. :)Yours etc.David. 90:104/115@nest.ftn 2:440/7.2@fidonet.org dhend@zetnet.co.uk--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: Ashford International Building Site II (90:104/115) 17 08-11-9614:47David Henderson Jim Tedder Re: Atari on the Internet 0 5 *Hiya DavidI'm reading a lot abought the Atari Internet sceen of late and was wonderingif it was posible on my preasent setup.I have 2.5meg of mem and a HD, bit do I need an high res monitor or can Iaccess the Internet with my present colour monitor???Thank's in advanceChat again soon BFN Jim 8~) Jim's Point at the Doghouse 01763-230042--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl5 eta * Origin: Another day in the Doghouse ;~/ (90:102/200.3) 18 08-09-9609:08Roy Goring Nicholas Flintham Re: antmail 0 7 *In a message of <20.07.96>, Roy Goring (90:102/166.14) writes: > Not true !!!! The STiK page still has version 0.7.7 which is USELESS > !!!!Yeah yeah yeah.. being able to update my pages might have helped.. :) > I have just uploaded 0.7.8 to 42BBS, so you can get it there :-)And Im expecting a release of 0.7.9 later and will hopefully have my pagesupdated and transfered to demon then as well..Nick.-- ͻ Nicholas Flintham Nick@Flinny.demon.co.uk Http://www.unn.ac.uk/~cju920/ ͼ--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl7 eta * Origin: <>F<><>L<><>I<><>N<><>N<><>Y<> (90:100/403) 19 08-09-9609:10Jonathan Nott Nicholas Flintham Re: antmail 0 6 *In a message of <21.07.96>, Jonathan Nott (90:102/166) writes: RG>> Not true!!!! The STiK page still has version 0.7.7 which is RG>> USELESS !!!! > > Ok, I'll get on to Nick about that!I know etc.. :))Nick.-- ͻ Nicholas Flintham Nick@Flinny.demon.co.uk Http://www.unn.ac.uk/~cju920/ ͼ--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl7 eta * Origin: <>F<><>L<><>I<><>N<><>N<><>Y<> (90:100/403) 20 08-09-9609:16Daniel Challen Nicholas Flintham Re: Help! ppp problems! 0 7 *In a message of <26.07.96>, Daniel Challen (90:102/166) writes: > p.s. Iunderstand that you are the gentleman in the know about STiK > development, so here is a question: do you know if there is a > NNTP/Newsreader client being developed ATM and if so what sort of > time it'll be available?Yep there is.. Babel and Firenews is one and newsie is another I hear.. dontknow anything about newsie though....Nick.-- ͻ Nicholas Flintham Nick@Flinny.demon.co.uk Http://www.unn.ac.uk/~cju920/ ͼ--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl7 eta * Origin: <>F<><>L<><>I<><>N<><>N<><>Y<> (90:100/403) 21 08-12-9621:56Derryck Croker Steve Dent TeddyTerm 0 6 *After checking with the 'Speak & Spell' Derryck said... SD>> Can someone tell me the current status with TeddyTerm comms software, SD>> I have Mark Matts as the person to register the software with. DC> It's no longer shareware, the last version (2.14?) was released as DC> PD.Hi Derryck, Many thanks for the info on TTerm.Cheers,Steve D. *** Shooting Clay Pigeons for Sport *** --- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: *** an "Old Age Traveller" from *** ...Ad Lib... (90:100/404) 22 08-12-9621:57Dale Wright Steve Dent TeddyTerm 0 6 *Hey look...it's Dale, DW> Hi Steve...Hi Dale, (whoever you are.:-)) ) SD>> Can someone tell me the current status with TeddyTerm comms software, SD>> I have Mark Matts as the person to register the software with. SD>> Is TeddyTerm still being supported? DW> DW> NO! Mark no longer supports TeddyTerm, when i first came on to theThanks for the info regarding the above.Cheers,Steve D. *** Shooting Clay Pigeons for Sport *** --- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: *** an "Old Age Traveller" from *** ...Ad Lib... (90:100/404) 23 08-12-9618:17Peter Carr Simon Coward Re: Atari on the Internet 0 4 *In a message of 11 Aug 96 Peter Carr (90:107/0) wrote to Simon Coward: PC> It's important to 'Be prepared' eh!? :-) PC>regards Simonsimon.coward@zetnet.co.uk....Rotator v0.5..Phodata 1.0...QWKbak 0.2--- ScanMail 0.70 * Origin: Launched through 42BBS (90:100/312) 24 08-14-9623:56All James L Davies SLiP and Demon ISP 0 9 *I need some help my (new found) friends.I've just bought one years worth of Internet off Demon, without checkingone very important thing:- Does Demon use SLIP or PPP to communicate?I'm relying on the fact that it is SLIP because I intend to use theSTiK/CAB package to browse to web. I haven't recieved the stuff off Demonyet because of the postal strikes, and the suspense is killing me!Also, Is there anyone out there connected to the net and using CAB to browsethe web on a 4Mb Atari STFM, with hard-drive? What's the speed like? And,(last one!) I've fitted the Serial port mod that was in Atari World a whileback, it works OK on 19200, but doesn't want to know about any higherspeeds (I am using HSMODEM 06, with config as written in Atari World), hasanyone got or did have the same problem?Ta lots.* Kivi (unregistered) 1.37 * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (NeST 90:100/300) 25 08-15-9600:16All Simon Wyndham EMAIL n' stuff 0 5 *Hi all,Does anyone know of a program called SMTP server? It was designed for STIK and was shown in one of the Atari World magazines in beta form. It was designed so that people like me could retrieve their mail from Demon and then send with Antmail. Alternatively will Antmail have SMTP recieve in the new version?Simon* Kivi (unregistered) 1.41 * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (NeST 90:100/300) 26 08-13-9621:08Harry Sideras Steve Dent TeddyTerm 0 5 *Hey look...it's Harry, HS> *Hi Steve*, on 08 Aug 96 you wrote: ...respect, brethrenMy wife says I'm a heathen! SD>> Can someone tell me the current status with TeddyTerm comms software, HS> HS> Basically, no to all of those points.Hi Harry, Thanks for the info.:-)Cheers,Steve D. *** Shooting Clay Pigeons for Sport *** --- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: *** an "Old Age Traveller" from *** ...Ad Lib... (90:100/404) 27 08-14-9623:56All James L Davies SLiP and Demon ISP 0 9 *AREA:N.ST.COMMSI need some help my (new found) friends.I've just bought one years worth of Internet off Demon, without checkingone very important thing:- Does Demon use SLIP or PPP to communicate?I'm relying on the fact that it is SLIP because I intend to use theSTiK/CAB package to browse to web. I haven't recieved the stuff off Demonyet because of the postal strikes, and the suspense is killing me!Also, Is there anyone out there connected to the net and using CAB to browsethe web on a 4Mb Atari STFM, with hard-drive? What's the speed like? And,(last one!) I've fitted the Serial port mod that was in Atari World a whileback, it works OK on 19200, but doesn't want to know about any higherspeeds (I am using HSMODEM 06, with config as written in Atari World), hasanyone got or did have the same problem?Ta lots.* Kivi (unregistered) 1.37 * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 [IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta] [IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta] * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (NeST 90:100/300) 28 08-15-9600:16All Simon Wyndham EMAIL n' stuff 0 6 *AREA:N.ST.COMMSHi all,Does anyone know of a program called SMTP server? It was designed for STIK and was shown in one of the Atari World magazines in beta form. It was designed so that people like me could retrieve their mail from Demon and then send with Antmail. Alternatively will Antmail have SMTP recieve in the new version?Simon* Kivi (unregistered) 1.41 * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 [IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta] [IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta] * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (NeST 90:100/300) 29 08-15-9623:48James L Davies Simon Wyndham SLiP and Demon ISP 0 11 *James L Davies wrote to All:JL> Does Demon use SLIP or PPP to communicate?It uses SLIP. You are saved. I am on Demon and use STIK to browse the WEB. Unfortunately Antmail cannot recieve mail from Demon as it does not support SMTP mail for anything but sending it. I heard that this might be remedied in the future though. For email (and supposedly newgroups though I have not had much luck yet) I use a great :-/ program called Oasis. This luvly bugged program is not only great for crashing your computer and not getting much help from the authors, it is also the only way you can send and recieve email on the Atari without using NOS. Anyway at the moment it is just about behaving itself. There is an Oasis Nest area incase you are having any problems (which you will). Its not all bad news though. Demon have recently added 5Mb (yes 5 megabytes) of free WEB space for you to put your own WEB pages on. This is a considerable amount of space, and most other providers only give half a meg! It used to cost 50 a month plus set up fee! :-)))))Simon* Kivi (unregistered) 1.41 * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (NeST 90:100/300) 30 08-16-9600:40Simon Wyndham James L Davies SLiP and Demon ISP 0 14 *Simon Wyndham wrote to James L Davies:SW> program called Oasis. This luvly bugged program is not only great forSW> crashing your computer and not getting much help from the authors, itSW> is also the only way you can send and recieve email on the AtariSW> without using NOS. Anyway at the moment it is just about behavingSW> (which you will). Its not all bad news though. Demon have recentlySW> added 5Mb (yes 5 megabytes) of free WEB space for you to put your ownSW> WEB pages on.Thanks for the help butty minto :)5Mb is certainly a hefty chunk of data, it's more than my total collegeoutput for last year! There doesn't seem to be any HTML authering toolsfor the Atari, do you know if one is on the way or what? There only seemsto be 1st Word to HTML conveters. I personally use Papyrus 3, and I'm surethere'd be a lot of buyers for a .PAP to HTML converter.I understand that NOS is part of the package that can be downloaded fromthe Demon BBS. Why has it got such a bad reputation? (I've read about itin loads of places). And, is the e-mail program that comes with it anygood? I saw some screenshots in an old ST Format and it all looked TOSto me!I'm sorry if I'm babbling a bit, but this comms thingy is like a new toy tome. It's nice to have a reply! I left a message on the IBM section for apuzzled user, but I ain't got no reply yet, so I don't now if he's had themessage or anything. Ah well...Thanx again* Kivi (unregistered) 1.37 * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (NeST 90:100/300) 31 08-14-9616:01Jim Tedder Harry Sideras Re: Atari on the Internet 0 8 **Hi Jim*, on 11 Aug 96 you wrote to *David Henderson*: ...respect, brethren JT> I'm reading a lot abought the Atari Internet sceen of late and was JT> wondering if it was posible on my preasent setup. JT> I have 2.5meg of mem and a HD, bit do I need an high res monitor or JT> can I access the Internet with my present colour monitor???I think it ought to work now that you've got a HD. I think I'd also prefer torun it in mono tbh. There simply aren't enough colours on screen with anormal ST - best to have dithered mono. I always preferred viewing GIFs indithered mono...Regards,Sid CeleryUK Association of Atari User Groups** Do you want Celery with that? **-= I am Borg - James Borg =---- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: It's nothing a warm-boot can't fix (90:102/143) 32 08-15-9611:48Harry Sideras James Pirie I'm stupid :*)) 0 19 *Harry Sideras wrote to James Pirie:HS* *Hi James*, on 02 Aug 96 you wrote to *Simon Coward*: ...iranooohhhhHHS* JP> I'm left looking at my lovely, familiar boring desktop, and though IHS* JP> try everything I can think of with CAB, Telnet, Finger etc I still getHS* JP> nothing.HS* JP> Can you see what I am doing wrong, or not doing at all??HS* JP> A desperate man :*))))HS* HS* It seems right that when STiK is asked to connect, it does so and thenHS* disappears from your screen.Apparently so although I was a little too used to BBS's and expected at least a welcome to Zetnet screen!! Comms is so much more friendly folks.HS* I hope I'm not being completely stupid when I say this, but after you getHS* thisHS* far, you should boot up CAB and stick a URL into it (maybe from somethingHS* already setup in your hotlist) and CAB should send you to that Web pageandHS* download it onto your screen (and into your Cache).Quite right Harry, although I did try this and all I got in return was an error message from CAB saying file www.cache 000000004 not found, or something like that. Then I saw a little warning somewhere in the plethora of documentation stating that if a file called Domain.txt in the cfg folder contained information from a failed connection, which it obviously did, then no further connections could be made?? The answer is to delete this file periodically, well I have to anyway, and then CAB launches into host resolving :*) It's not clear why this happens and I guess it could be what is commonly called a Bug. even now, if I have problems making a connection I just zip into the cfg section and destroy Domain.txt which seems to work. Phahh computers who needs them :*)) Thnaks for your kind help again. Now how do I get CAB to speed up a little? (Get a Mac powerbook and MagiCmac??)Cheers for now,James|\ _____ |/ock |roll @ * * @|\ | @ <~~~>James.Pirie@Zetnet.co.ukTel. 01571 855327 (Voice) 0378 779120 (Mobile)___* Kivi (unregistered) 1.37 *--- RAT-QWK+ v1.06 [JetMail 0.99beta9] * Origin: The Ad.Lib BBS Atari~Mac~PC~Sausages 0191 3702659 (90:100/400.0) 33 08-15-9611:48Simon Coward James Pirie Cured :*) 0 22 *Simon Coward wrote to James Pirie:SC* In a message of 02 Aug 96 James Pirie (90:100/400.0) wrote to SimonSC* JP> Carlisle at Zetnet and he walked me through the Dial script and toldSC* JP> me to change FIND= N to FIND= Number, FIND= m to FIND = ,SC* JP> FIND= r to FIND= SC* SC* I've had words with David about his scripts, this sounds very different toSC* mine.SC* What Andrew says looks right to me.In the end David also contacted me and we went through a few things which terminated in me putting the dial script back to it's original format. It seems that the problem was just HSmodem1_0 in the auto folder and nothing to do with the dial script. Apparently David re hashed the script file to work better and to date it has been working well.SC* JP> to pick up any mail with Antmail as I was told there was a problemSC* JP> with my Password, can you beleive that?, after all the trouble I wentSC* JP> to checking that it was right :*(( Can you see what I am doing wrong,SC* JP> or not doing at all?? SC* SC* I know why it said incorrect password :-)SC* SC* First I assume you are NOT repeat NOT using Antmail 0.77 if you are junkSC* it.SC* Use 0.76 which is very stable or I'm told 0.78 is OK.SC* SC* 1) Open Xcontrol and disable Preemptive multitasking if you have MagiCSC* 2) Enable StiKSC* 3) Load AntmailSC* 4) In Antmail go to the CONFIG menu and click on OPEN SETTINGS, the fileSC* selector appears with DEFAULT.SET as the file. Click on OK.SC* SC* For some reason Antmail doesn't find it's default.set file andf hence itSC* doesn't send the right password so you can't get your mail. However youcanThe problem was something like that. Your help is most appreciated, however david was so keen to help that he actually called me that day and we sorted the problem, eventually. I had just been clicking on save preferences and not actually setting up a default set at all!! (prat) So now I am running. By the way have you experienced any problems with the reply to address? Every time I go back into Antmail the .'s In my reply to address have been changed to >'s and so my address appears as james.pirie@zetnetcouk??? It's most annoying and I can't seem to cure itCheers for now,James|\ _____ |/ock |roll @ * * @|\ | @ <~~~>James.Pirie@Zetnet.co.ukTel. 01571 855327 (Voice) 0378 779120 (Mobile)___* Kivi (unregistered) 1.37 *--- RAT-QWK+ v1.06 [JetMail 0.99beta9] * Origin: The Ad.Lib BBS Atari~Mac~PC~Sausages 0191 3702659 (90:100/400.0) 34 08-15-9611:48David Henderson James Pirie Confused 0 9 *David Henderson wrote to James Pirie:D I expected the world and got, myDH* JP> "Desktop" James.Pirie@Zetnet.co.ukTel. 01571 855327 (Voice) 0378 779120 (Mobile)___* Kivi (unregistered) 1.37 *--- RAT-QWK+ v1.06 [JetMail 0.99beta9] * Origin: The Ad.Lib BBS Atari~Mac~PC~Sausages 0191 3702659 (90:100/400.0) 35 08-15-9611:48Peter Carr James Pirie HSmodem6 0 13 *Peter Carr wrote to James Pirie:PC* Hi there James,PC* PC* In a message of <02.08.96>, James Pirie (90:100/400.0) writes: PC* PC* JP> system, (I had to remove HSmodem1_0 from my auto folder) I now findPC* JP> that nothing happens!! absolutely nothing. PC* PC* Hmmm! I'm using Oasis2 with HSMODEM06 and connect via Demon no probsPC* -(thoughPC* had to wait a considerable time to make a connect - however it was aPC* weekend!!)PC* I would have thought that a patch like HSMODEM was important as thePC* standardPC* serial routines are a bit dubious/dodgy I believe. Though your softwarePC* mayPC* already have it's own patch which may conflict.No I don't think there is any other type of patch, although there may be a conflict with serial fix? I can't be sure whether that was loaded or not, I think not though. It may be that my copy of HSmodem was too old, being version1.0 Where did you find V6.0 ?? I searched through AdLib and the tavern but found nothing.PC* Sorry I can't be more helpful than that.Don't be sorry, even getting a reply is better than silence, at least I know you care :*))Cheers for now,James|\ _____ |/ock |roll @ * * @|\ | @ <~~~>James.Pirie@Zetnet.co.ukTel. 01571 855327 (Voice) 0378 779120 (Mobile)___* Kivi (unregistered) 1.37 *--- RAT-QWK+ v1.06 [JetMail 0.99beta9] * Origin: The Ad.Lib BBS Atari~Mac~PC~Sausages 0191 3702659 (90:100/400.0) 36 08-15-9611:48Dale Wright James Pirie Lurker 0 17 *Dale Wright wrote to James Pirie:DW* These words of wisdom from James Pirie were uttered to Dale Wright on theDW* 02DW* Aug 96:DW* DW* Hi James...DW* DW* JP> DW* Hello! where you been?DW* JP> DW* JP> I aint bin anywhere Dale, I've been right here quietly working awayDW* JP> at this damned keyboard. I may not have been verbal but I've beenDW* JP> watching 8*))DW* DW* Oh no you've been a lurking again haven't you? ;-)HeHeHe, A lurking we will go, A lurking we will go, diddle diddle dum dum ;-0DW* JP> Yes this seems to be the answer, DAVID HELP!!!!!!! I've got theDW* JP> software installed and set up, but all I seem to be able to do isDW* JP> connect and then nothing happens. I expected the world and got, myDW* JP> "Desktop" > DW* DW* Well it happens to us all at some stage you know >;-)Yes so I believe, however thanks to various helpful non Lurkers I have been sorted out and am trolling my way around the Net, (at weekends only)DW* DW* Let us know how you get on would you, & you can always test your e-mailDW* out onDW* me at: dale1@cix.compulink.co.ukI'll do that, you didn't tell me you were on the Internet?DW* JP> Yea, nice to hear from you againDW* DW* And from you too James, hope your job is still going on strong for you?Oh yes I'm nearly qualified now, do you know it's nearly a year since I started this job, wow it seems like ten ;*)DW* DW* JP> James.Pirie@Zetnet.co.ukYup thats me!!DW* Next time i'm on Cix i'll try e-mailing you ok.I just said that, guess I'll be hearing from you then, hows married life treating you anyway?Cheers for now,James|\ _____ |/ock |roll @ * * @|\ | @ <~~~>James.Pirie@Zetnet.co.ukTel. 01571 855327 (Voice) 0378 779120 (Mobile)___* Kivi (unregistered) 1.37 *--- RAT-QWK+ v1.06 [JetMail 0.99beta9] * Origin: The Ad.Lib BBS Atari~Mac~PC~Sausages 0191 3702659 (90:100/400.0) 37 08-15-9611:48Roy Goring James Pirie Cured 0 11 *Roy Goring wrote to James Pirie:RG* Hello James,RG* .....You said to Domhnall DodsRG* RG* JP> As you say I may have beaten you to getting an account with Zetnet,RG* JP> but I'm willing to bet that you will make a connection with themRG* JP> first!!! :*(( RG* If DH can't help I have working scripts, and a working connection withRG* ZetnetRG* :-)Due to the fact that David called me immediately he got my E.Mail I now have a working setup. Not too sure just exactly what the problem was, more like a combination of small things which were entirely due to me fiddling with stuff I should have left alone and having HSmodem1 installed. My STik setup just will not work with this installed? Very strange I must try and find V6.0 and see if that works. Thanks for the reply and offer of help though it is appreciatedCheers for now,James|\ _____ |/ock |roll @ * * @|\ | @ <~~~>James.Pirie@Zetnet.co.ukTel. 01571 855327 (Voice) 0378 779120 (Mobile)___* Kivi (unregistered) 1.37 *--- RAT-QWK+ v1.06 [JetMail 0.99beta9] * Origin: The Ad.Lib BBS Atari~Mac~PC~Sausages 0191 3702659 (90:100/400.0) 38 08-15-9611:48David Henderson James Pirie Standard ST 0 10 *David Henderson wrote to Simon Coward:DH* Ladies and Gentlemen, your appreciation please for Simon Coward and DavidDH* Henderson: DH* DH>> No, This is correct. It is to maintain compatibility with SETUP.DH* DH>> It does work too, I have set up my installation myself and itDH* DH>> works 1st time. :((DH* SC> Now I see why people are having trouble with the new script. I reckonDH* SC> Andrew Carlyle is right.DH* SC> My dial script is like Andrew says.D All you need to do is be able to work out that ####-###-##DH* meansDH* you 3 section number and that ######## is your 1 digit one!DH* DH* It does work, it's now been tested on a standard ST!Woz this my Standard ST then David ;*))) if so then yes the setup script works.Cheers for now,James|\ _____ |/ock |roll @ * * @|\ | @ <~~~>James.Pirie@Zetnet.co.ukTel. 01571 855327 (Voice) 0378 779120 (Mobile)___* Kivi (unregistered) 1.37 *--- RAT-QWK+ v1.06 [JetMail 0.99beta9] * Origin: The Ad.Lib BBS Atari~Mac~PC~Sausages 0191 3702659 (90:100/400.0) 77 08-09-9620:34Daron Brewood Jonathan Nott Re: NeST WWW Pages 0 5 *Hi Daron, ...you said to Jonathan Nott:DB> Good man.Officially still a youth, but there we go :)DB> Accessed: GFX for COUNERDB> times. David Henderson[EM] wrote to All about MIME: DC> DH>> Can anyone tell me comprehensively what MIME is used for and can DH>> do? DC> BTW, sorry this msg was so long, I just get carried away with DC> trying be helpful sometimes :o)Thanks, Dan, that was exactly what I was after. A compprehensive run-down.I understood most of it already, but it's always nice to have the fullpicture. :-)Cheers,Yours etc.David. 90:104/115@nest.ftn 2:440/7.2@fidonet.org dhend@zetnet.co.uk--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: AIBS: Now available on dhend@zetnet.co.uk (90:104/115) 79 08-06-9617:09Peter Carr David Henderson[EM] Re: Ideas for Net2net 0 8 *Ladies and Gentlemen, your appreciation please for Peter Carr and DavidHenderson[EM]: DH>> Assume this: I live in the middle of Belguim (or even worse, DH>> wales). PC> Wales - not a problem. Hills, mountains, valleys, sheep - all these PC> can be overcome as easily as saying... PC> Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgolgerychwindrobwllanstisiogogogoch :-)Church Mary-a-hollow, white hazel near to the rapid whirlpool, church sainttis(il)io, cave red.I think. DH>> I can't get a local nest feed. PC> We have it sussed for the whole of the principality m8. Wellies are PC> optionalName five famous welshmen...... Yours etc.David. 90:104/115@nest.ftn 2:440/7.2@fidonet.org dhend@zetnet.co.uk--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: AIBS: Now available on dhend@zetnet.co.uk (90:104/115) 80 05-01-9613:45All David Henderson[EM] N.S.C.I Rules 0 20 *_Area rules for EchoMail Area: *N.ST.COMMS.INTERNET*_ Issue 1: 8/4/96Echo Moderator: David Henderson 90:104/115.0@nest.ftn==========================================================================*Access*======N.S.C.I may be accessed by any user of the NeST network, be that a memberlisted in the NeSTlist, a point or a user of a NeST BBS.*Purpose*=======N.S.C.I is intended for the discussion of Atari compatible based access to theinternet and the use thereof.The echo aims to provide a User Support forum, to allow the best possible useof available software and techniques.Most aspects may be discussed including 'Netiquette', installation of softwareand/or problems.Complaints or suggestions about software, while not disallowed, may be bettersuited to one of the support echos, if available, however.Please note: "Flaming" or other general naughtiness is not allowed.*Handles*=======Handles will be tolerated, but keep yourself identifiable in them please.Doctoring of your Origin line or Sig to incorporate e-mail addresses, howeveris greatly encouraged.*Moderator's Duties*==================It is the moderator's job to moderate. If you have any complaints aboutmessages posted in the echo, these should be brought to my attention viaNetMail. Action shall then be taken as deemed necessary.Please do *not* attempt to moderate others or you will risk being moderatedyourself.The moderator shall ensure that messages posted in this area remain on-topicwithin reasonable limits, these limits to be determined by myself.The moderator will, in consultation with the other participants, instituteformal voting procedures to be used if it becomes necessary to appoint anew moderator by vote.*Area Rules*==========The moderator reserves the right to modify these rules at any time, withoutprior notice.These rules will be published in the echo once a month and any changes will beindicated by a change in the revision number and date shown in the header.Notice of such changes will also be communicated to the WEC.I hope we all find N.ST.COMMS.INTERNET both helpful and useful, but remember,it's only a hobby - so have fun.David Henderson - Echo Moderator--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl6 eta [IOS-Mail 0.91pl6 eta] [IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta] * Origin: Ashford International Building Site II (666:666/0.0) 81 08-07-9621:14Simon Coward Steve Sweet Re: MIME 0 7 *Whilst under caution Simon said to Officer Jonathan :~) SC> I think you've missed the point, a MIME is NOT an attached file, it is SC> the body of the Email message. SC> Below is a UUE ecoded file, a MIME looks very similar. The file below SC> is just a small text file, the only diffrence if it were a program or SC> graphics file is that it would be much bigger. As you can see it's not SC> attached to this message. It's just part of it.Ive tried to send UUE'd stuff in the body of a message and the gateway spat itout?. Regards from STEve & his nice warm cosey PAK'd MegaSTE.--- JetMail 0.99beta22 * Origin: Steve's Warm Cosey Private Node :~) (Nest 90:102/142) 82 08-09-9606:17Simon Coward Paul Baker Re: MIME 0 9 *In a previous message Simon Coward wrote > In a message of 04 Aug 96 Jonathan Nott (90:102/166) wrote to Simon > Coward: JN>> I've never used it much as I can't attach files via the 42BBS JN>> gateway. > > I think you've missed the point, a MIME is NOT an attached file, it is > the body of the Email message. > Below is a UUE ecoded file, a MIME looks very similar. The file below > is just a small text file, the only diffrence if it were a program or > graphics file is that it would be much bigger. As you can see it's not > attached to this message. It's just part of it. > > > begin 644 MIMETST.TXT > +02!M:6UE('1E y > endThing is....if you were caught sending UUENCODED or MIME files in messagesthrough a BBS gateway and the sysop found out..one of 2 things might happen1. You'll get told off.2. The boys might come round for a 'discussion' :->--- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: THE TAVERN 44-(0)181-445-6514 24 HOURS (NeST 90:102/140) 83 08-09-9606:18Steve Sweet Paul Baker Re: MIME 0 8 *In a previous message Steve Sweet wrote > Whilst under caution Simon said to Officer Jonathan :~) > SC>> I think you've missed the point, a MIME is NOT an attached file, it SC>> is the body of the Email message. > SC>> Below is a UUE ecoded file, a MIME looks very similar. The file SC>> below is just a small text file, the only diffrence if it were a SC>> program or graphics file is that it would be much bigger. As you can SC>> see it's not attached to this message. It's just part of it. > > Ive tried to send UUE'd stuff in the body of a message and the gateway > spat it out?. > Clever that init :->If it's a small file and you desperately need to send it then ask me to giveyou the priv for file attaches for a day or so steve.--- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: THE TAVERN 44-(0)181-445-6514 24 HOURS (NeST 90:102/140) 84 08-10-9616:01Daron Brewood Richard Spowart NeST WWW Updated. 0 8 *Daron Brewood wrote to All:DB> The NeST WWW pages have now been updated with reference to various DB> comments made.DB> DB> - More graphics (including ISMAPS).DB> DB> - More Atari Links.DB> DB> - More Psion Links.DB> DB> - Red Headed girls finally sorted out.DB> DB> - Screen shots of my Psion applications.DB> DB> - Etc.DB> DB> Comments?DB> I checked out your pages today, Daron .... they're excellent!Add a link to the Maggie WebSite if you like - the URL is:-http://www.cybercomm.nl/~spostma/maggie/maggie.htm.DB> Compiler: A program for converting errors into bugs.Nice one Daron - I wonder if the NHS has realised this yet ??Speak to you soon, dude!! I'm history.Richard (Maggie Team)* Kivi (unregistered) 1.41a * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (NeST 90:100/300) 85 08-10-9610:00David Henderson[EM] Daron Brewood Re: MIME 0 7 *In a message of 08 Aug 96 David Henderson[EM] (90:104/115) woffled to DaronBrewood: DH> Saved and will be held to it! :)Grin, Dave's just fixed a slight bug in ICE and knocked the transfer rate upsome 400% DH> Can't he add it for decoding and not sending?That's what I'm pushing for. He says maybe after Spider. DH> Didn't you use snews?Nope, FiST.Daron - dbrewood@nest.demon.co.uk | dbrewood@cix.compulink.co.uk-+-- Sylph, n. An immaterial but visible being that inhabited the air when theair was an element and before it was fatally poluted by factory smoke, sewergas and similar prdoucts of civilization. [...] tDD, Bierce--- JetMail 0.99beta22 * Origin: NeST WWW: http://www.nest.demon.co.uk/ (NeST 90:100/106) 86 08-10-9610:01David Henderson[EM] Daron Brewood Re: NeST WWW Pages 0 5 *In a message of 08 Aug 96 David Henderson[EM] (90:104/115) woffled to DaronBrewood: DH>>> How's it done, then, DB? DB>> With great care and atention. DH> The Web counter?I think it was the ISMAP.Daron - dbrewood@nest.demon.co.uk | dbrewood@cix.compulink.co.uk-+-Red haired lasses know how to do it.--- JetMail 0.99beta22 * Origin: NeST WWW: http://www.nest.demon.co.uk/ (NeST 90:100/106) 87 08-10-9610:02Jonathan Nott Daron Brewood Re: NeST WWW Pages 0 7 *In a message of 09 Aug 96 Jonathan Nott (90:102/166) woffled to Daron Brewood: JN> Officially still a youth, but there we go :)Gosh, and I thought you were getting on in years. JN> Very well, except this is for the Demon server. To do the same, I'll JN> have to write a similar Perl script for the walusoft server. This I'm JN> working on!Best of luck mate, never actually sen any Perl.Daron - dbrewood@nest.demon.co.uk | dbrewood@cix.compulink.co.uk-+-"Nothing adds excitement to your life like something that isclearly none of your business!" - Battista--- JetMail 0.99beta22 * Origin: NeST WWW: http://www.nest.demon.co.uk/ (NeST 90:100/106) 88 08-09-9600:38Daron Brewood Steven Bagley Re: CAB Help! 0 7 *"Ambassador Brewood," asked Steven. "Do you really want to know what's goingon down there right now?""Yes, absolutely," replied Daron.Steven moved forward, and whispered something. SB>> Daphne Ashbrooks nicer. DB> DB> Who?Quite. :)Dr Grace Holloway from the new Doctor Who film. SB>> And Delenn (Mira Furlan) is just ..... :) DB> DB> Average to me I'm afraid.Each to their own. SB>> Its blonde. She dyed it for the X-Files. DB> DB> Argh, are you sure about this?Pretty sure I read it some where.See you earlier,Steven InterNet: sbagley@cameo.co.uk FidoNET: 2:2501/101.12 ... NeST: 90:102/203Telemovie--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: The Tardis (90:102/203) 89 08-09-9618:46Paul Baker Steve Sweet Re: MIME 0 7 *Whilst under caution Paul said to Officer Steve :~) >> Ive tried to send UUE'd stuff in the body of a message and the >> gateway spat it out?. PB> Clever that init :->Crafty git that programmer. 8~) PB> If it's a small file and you desperately need to send it then ask me PB> to give you the priv for file attaches for a day or so steve.I'l bear that in mind thanks matey bloke, i only used it that way last time asi recall to send a short config file to someone. I sent it file attach in theend. Regards from STEve & his nice warm cosey PAK'd MegaSTE.--- JetMail 0.99beta22 * Origin: Steve's Warm Cosey Private Node :~) (Nest 90:102/142) 90 08-11-9613:03Steven Bagley Daron Brewood Re: CAB Help! 0 6 *In a message of 09 Aug 96 Steven Bagley (90:102/203) woffled to Daron Brewood: SB> Dr Grace Holloway from the new Doctor Who film.I'd agree with you there. SB>>> And Delenn (Mira Furlan) is just ..... :) SB> Each to their own.It's just her damned simpering that gets to me. SB> Pretty sure I read it some where.Oh well, more dreams shatterd.Daron - dbrewood@nest.demon.co.uk | dbrewood@cix.compulink.co.uk-+-But magic has a habit of lying low, like a rake in the grass.Terry Pratchett - Equal Rites.--- JetMail 0.99beta22 * Origin: NeST WWW: http://www.nest.demon.co.uk/ (NeST 90:100/106) 91 08-11-9613:04Richard Spowart Daron Brewood NeST WWW Updated. 0 8 *In a message of 10 Aug 96 Richard Spowart (90:100/300) woffled to DaronBrewood: RS> I checked out your pages today, Daron .... they're excellent!Glad you like them, I keep thinking of more things to add as well, stilllooking for a nice design of NeST Logo. RS> Add a link to the Maggie WebSite if you like - the URL is:- RS> http://www.cybercomm.nl/~spostma/maggie/maggie.htm.Consider it added mate. The more links the merrier. RS> Nice one Daron - I wonder if the NHS has realised this yet ??But of course not.Daron - dbrewood@nest.demon.co.uk | dbrewood@cix.compulink.co.uk-+-The reason behind the style of the new IBM logo is that this was the bestthey could achieve in the resolution they had.--- JetMail 0.99beta22 * Origin: NeST WWW: http://www.nest.demon.co.uk/ (NeST 90:100/106) 92 08-11-9610:31David Henderson[EM] Peter Carr Re: Ideas for Net2net 0 9 *Hi there David,In a message of <06.08.96>, David Henderson[EM] (90:104/115) writes: PC>> Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgolgerychwindrobwllanstisiogogogoch :-) DH> DH> Church Mary-a-hollow, white hazel near to the rapid whirlpool, church DH> saint tis(il)io, cave red. DH> DH> I think.Who's been reading his old postcard from Anglesey then? DH>>> I can't get a local nest feed. PC>> We have it sussed for the whole of the principality m8. Wellies PC>> are optional DH> DH> Name five famous welshmen...... Anthony HopkinsRichard BurtonTom JonesLloyd GeorgeDylan ThomasAnd not to leave the women out of it...Shirley BasseyCarol VaudemannRuth MadocNerys HughesBonny Tyler DH> ... Never replicate a successful experiment.Unless it's a foolproof way to make money CheersPete>*, Steve Sweet (90:102/142) writes: PC>> Wales - not a problem. Hills, mountains, valleys, sheep - all PC>> these can be overcome as easily as saying... SS> SS> Yachi darh boyo's!,Bore da SS> Someone mention sheep, got any good looking one's know what i mean.We have a few choice 'woolly backs' especially for someone who knows hismutton. Any preference for names? They're a real Baaaaa-gain! PC>> We have it sussed for the whole of the principality m8. Wellies PC>> are optional SS> SS> For us or the sheep, how about high heeled wellies.We have sizes and types to fit all - I'll leave you to guess whether I meanthe sheep or the wellies... :-) SS> Regards from STEve & his nice warm cosey PAK'd MegaSTE.You can't live in that machine for ever. SS> ( A genuine Welsh Taffy-Boyo from Blaina, Gwent.)From the south of the principality eh? I should have known..... CheersPete>*, Mark Baker (90:102/140.17) writes: MB> months. In fact the infamous ascends are ISDN terminal adaptors first MB> and foremost and require extra hardware to support analogue modems.You're not kidding about the ascends being 'infamous'. I'm now into my secondweek just pi**ing about trying to get a decent connection with my Supra28K8. Do I need a new modem that handles ISDN? Can I modify the old Supra?I'd appreciate any suggestions you may have as this thing is driving mebananas.CheersPete>* Glad you like them, I keep thinking of more things to add as well, still DB> looking for a nice design of NeST Logo.If anything changes before the Atari shows please keep me updated. DB> Consider it added mate. The more links the merrier.Have you got a WAG link? http://www.compulink.co.uk/~mrgs/wag/welcome.htmDid you know 'merrier' is not in my dictionary?'til the next time:)*/Chris/*--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: The third point off the 42BBS!! (90:100/303) 96 08-12-9617:39Daron Brewood David Henderson[EM] Re: MIME 0 7 *Ladies and Gentlemen, your appreciation please for Daron Brewood and DavidHenderson[EM]: DH>> Saved and will be held to it! :) DB> Grin, Dave's just fixed a slight bug in ICE and knocked the transfer DB> rate up some 400%It's if it talks that matters. Anyhow, stik news is functioning at beta,hopefully it will be at release stage soon. DH>> Can't he add it for decoding and not sending? DB> That's what I'm pushing for. He says maybe after Spider.Hmmm... DH>> Didn't you use snews? DB> Nope, FiST.Oh yeh.Yours etc.David. 90:104/115@nest.ftn 2:440/7.2@fidonet.org dhend@zetnet.co.uk--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: AIBS: Now available on dhend@zetnet.co.uk (90:104/115) 97 08-12-9617:41Daron Brewood David Henderson[EM] Re: NeST WWW Pages 0 5 *Ladies and Gentlemen, your appreciation please for Daron Brewood and DavidHenderson[EM]: DH>>>> How's it done, then, DB? DB>>> With great care and atention. DH>> The Web counter? DB> I think it was the ISMAP.Erm.. In english? :)Yours etc.David. 90:104/115@nest.ftn 2:440/7.2@fidonet.org dhend@zetnet.co.uk--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: AIBS: Now available on dhend@zetnet.co.uk (90:104/115) 98 08-12-9617:42Steven Bagley David Henderson[EM] Re: CAB Help! 0 6 *Ladies and Gentlemen, your appreciation please for Steven Bagley and DaronBrewood: SB>>> Daphne Ashbrooks nicer. SB>>> And Delenn (Mira Furlan) is just ..... :) DB>> Average to me I'm afraid.Much as I approve of the style of this conversation, as it has no content ofany decent looking women, why not's let argue it in the n.misc.common? :)Yours etc.David. 90:104/115@nest.ftn 2:440/7.2@fidonet.org dhend@zetnet.co.uk--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: AIBS: Now available on dhend@zetnet.co.uk (90:104/115) 99 08-13-9607:09David Henderson[EM] Daron Brewood Re: MIME 0 6 *In a message of 12 Aug 96 David Henderson[EM] (90:104/115) woffled to DaronBrewood: DH> It's if it talks that matters. Anyhow, stik news is functioning at beta, DH> hopefully it will be at release stage soon.Yep, I know I'm nowon the beta list. DB>> Nope, FiST. DH> Oh yeh.Grin.Daron - dbrewood@nest.demon.co.uk | dbrewood@cix.compulink.co.uk-+-"Nothing adds excitement to your life like something that isclearly none of your business!" - Battista--- JetMail 0.99beta22 * Origin: NeST WWW: http://www.nest.demon.co.uk/ (NeST 90:100/106) 100 08-13-9607:10David Henderson[EM] Daron Brewood Re: NeST WWW Pages 0 6 *In a message of 12 Aug 96 David Henderson[EM] (90:104/115) woffled to DaronBrewood: DB>> I think it was the ISMAP. DH> Erm.. In english? :)Erm it was, the initial window shown on my page in an image map or ISMAP.Daron - dbrewood@nest.demon.co.uk | dbrewood@cix.compulink.co.uk-+-"I have always been here.""Oh yeah, you said that about me too.""Yes.""I really hate it when you do that.""Good."-- Sheridan and Kosh in Babylon 5:"Matters of Honor"--- JetMail 0.99beta22 * Origin: NeST WWW: http://www.nest.demon.co.uk/ (NeST 90:100/106) 101 08-09-9609:33Max Denebian Nicholas Flintham Re: reader LED type for a 0 10 *In a message of <20.07.96>, Max Denebian (90:304/2) writes: > I call programslike (are there any other for the st?) LED a reader. I > was hoping a dedicated antmail read/reply program was being worked on. > It's not very efficient to run a text editor, then quit out of it for > just one message, eh?Eventually it will have its own viewer and only call the editor for replyingto mails etc.. Dan and I decided from an early point that there was no pointin writing a specific Editor for antmail because there will always be betterstand alone editors availabe. > I'd love to get Slabahoud to write an LED antmail.I would agree if it had decent block functions.. these one suck.. Nick. -- Ŀ Nicholas Flintham Nick@Flinny.demon.co.uk Http://www.unn.ac.uk/~cju920/ --- IOS-Mail 0.91pl7 eta * Origin: <>F<><>L<><>I<><>N<><>N<><>Y<> (90:100/403) 102 08-09-9609:37Jonathan Nott Nicholas Flintham Re: Cab.Ovl 0 9 *In a message of <20.07.96>, Jonathan Nott (90:102/166) writes: JN>>>

Form action has 2 methods POST and PUT the only real difference is the way theresults are sent to the httpd on the server. To get a form to be mailed to you afaik you need to install a cgi script onthe server you use the POST method to send it to the script on the server andthis takes the mailto: bit and emails the form to the address.. I maybe wrong but this is the way I did it on some test pages I did ages ago.Nick.-- ķ Nicholas Flintham Nick@Flinny.demon.co.uk Http://www.unn.ac.uk/~cju920/ Ľ--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl7 eta * Origin: <>F<><>L<><>I<><>N<><>N<><>Y<> (90:100/403) 103 08-09-9609:44Mark Baker Nicholas Flintham Re: Stik beta testers/dev 0 6 *In a message of <22.07.96>, Mark Baker (90:102/140.17) writes: > There's alot of those I haven't seen on the mailing list? Are they on > there but just lurking?They were all on at one point I know a few have unsubed but most should stillbe there.Nick.-- ķ Nicholas Flintham Nick@Flinny.demon.co.uk Http://www.unn.ac.uk/~cju920/ Ľ--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl7 eta * Origin: <>F<><>L<><>I<><>N<><>N<><>Y<> (90:100/403) 104 08-09-9609:52David Henderson[EM] Nicholas Flintham Re: Demon ISDN 0 5 *In a message of <26.07.96>, David Henderson[EM] (90:104/115) writes: > Oh no!! > Thank goodness flinny's on holiday!! ;)Eh? :)Nick.-- ͻ Nicholas Flintham Nick@Flinny.demon.co.uk Http://www.unn.ac.uk/~cju920/ ͼ--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl7 eta * Origin: <>F<><>L<><>I<><>N<><>N<><>Y<> (90:100/403) 105 08-09-9609:53David Henderson[EM] Nicholas Flintham Re: CAB Help! 0 6 *In a message of <26.07.96>, David Henderson[EM] (90:104/115) writes: DH>>>Want to have another go at NOSSHELL, Si? SC>> I'll wait for the new ICE first, I'm still getting over the last SC>> attempt :-( > > hehe, > > flinny'll vouch for it working. :)EH? :)Nick.-- Ŀ Nicholas Flintham Nick@Flinny.demon.co.uk Http://www.unn.ac.uk/~cju920/ --- IOS-Mail 0.91pl7 eta * Origin: <>F<><>L<><>I<><>N<><>N<><>Y<> (90:100/403) 106 08-12-9618:18Daron Brewood Simon Coward Re: MIME 0 4 *In a message of 10 Aug 96 Daron Brewood (90:100/106) wrote to DavidHenderson[EM]: DB> Grin, Dave's just fixed a slight bug in ICE and knocked the transfer DB> rate up some 400% DB>Yes but will it work with Zetnet?regards Simonsimon.coward@zetnet.co.uk....Rotator v0.5..Phodata1.0...QWKbak 0.2--- ScanMail 0.70 * Origin: Launched through 42BBS (90:100/312) 107 08-12-9618:19Steve Sweet Simon Coward Re: MIME 0 6 *In a message of 09 Aug 96 Steve Sweet (90:102/142) wrote to Paul Baker: SS> I'l bear that in mind thanks matey bloke, i only used it that way SS> last time as i recall to send a short config file to someone. I sent SS> it file attach in the end. SS>Funny thing is I looked at a MIME of a ZIP file that I was emailing and theMIME is bigger than the ZIP. Thatw ould make it cheaper to send it fileattached anyway.regards Simonsimon.coward@zetnet.co.uk....Rotator v0.5..Phodata 1.0...QWKbak 0.2--- ScanMail 0.70 * Origin: Launched through 42BBS (90:100/312) 108 08-13-9619:11Peter Carr David Henderson[EM] Re: Ideas for Net2net 0 11 *Ladies and Gentlemen, your appreciation please for Peter Carr and DavidHenderson[EM]: PC>>> Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgolgerychwindrobwllanstisiogogogoch :-) DH>> Church Mary-a-hollow, white hazel near to the rapid whirlpool, DH>> church saint tis(il)io, cave red. DH>> I think. PC> Who's been reading his old postcard from Anglesey then? That's where it came from, but I haven't seen it in about 8 years. :) DH>> Name five famous welshmen...... PC> Anthony Hopkins (tick) PC> Richard Burton (??) PC> Tom Jones (tick) PC> Lloyd George (??) PC> Dylan Thomas (????!!????)that's 2... ;)Oh, and colin jackson. PC> And not to leave the women out of it... PC> Shirley Bassey (tick) PC> Carol Vaudemann (she's not welsh) PC> Ruth Madoc (???) PC> Nerys Hughes (tick) PC> Bonny Tyler (tick) DH>> ... Never replicate a successful experiment. PC> Unless it's a foolproof way to make money ;-)Anyway, not very internet-y, shall we move to common? Bit quiet in there. :)Yours etc.David. 90:104/115@nest.ftn 2:440/7.2@fidonet.org dhend@zetnet.co.uk--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: AIBS: Now available on dhend@zetnet.co.uk (90:104/115) 109 08-13-9619:18David Henderson[EM] Mark Baker Re: MIME 0 8 *On 24 Jul 96, David said to All > Can anyone tell me comprehensively what MIME is used for and can do? > > And will Ant or Oasis2 fully support it sometime?Mime allows you to have multiple sections in an email, posssibly of differenttypes, with headers identifying the types of the sections. A mime emailviewed in a non-mime mail client will still be readable although obviouslypictures etc will not look right!Each section has a content type header, such as image/gif or text/html. Inaddition, sectinos containing types that can't be included in seven bitascii, such as any image, and attached files generally, have a contentencoding header, which specifies the encoding, such as uuencode or base64(which is most common)--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl6 eta * Origin: Mark's point at *the Tavern* London UK (90:102/140.17) 110 08-13-9619:24David Henderson[EM] Mark Baker Re: Demon ISDN 0 7 *On 26 Jul 96, David said to Mark MB>> From july 8th? From what I've heard it's been up and running for MB>> months. In fact the infamous ascends are ISDN terminal adaptors MB>> first and foremost and require extra hardware to support analogue MB>> modems. > > I think it means they don't charge a premium now. :)They never did, apparently they've been working for ages exactly as now, butthey didn't want to announce the service until they were sure it was reliable- people could hardly complain about an unofficial service not working. Therewas some discussion on uk.telecom about whether they would increase the pricewhen they announced it officially.--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl6 eta * Origin: Mark's point at *the Tavern* London UK (90:102/140.17) 111 08-13-9619:26David Henderson[EM] Mark Baker Re: Ideas for Net2net 0 7 *On 26 Jul 96, David said to Mark > Assume this: I live in the middle of Belguim (or even worse, wales). I > can't get a local nest feed. Why not get my FTNs via the net and Ant?Oh I see, I assumed you meant kind of the other way round, so BBSs could getinternet mail. That was what Paul originally wrote net2net for I think. > As a pvt node, I don't really /need/ automation - besides, I can't > automate STiK anyway, and that does the dialling.True, that's yet another reason why you wouldn't want to use STiK on a BBS. Ihadn't thought of the use you suggested.--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl6 eta * Origin: Mark's point at *the Tavern* London UK (90:102/140.17) 112 08-14-9606:58Chris Good Daron Brewood Re: NeST WWW Updated. 0 5 *In a message of 13 Aug 96 Chris Good (90:100/303) woffled to Daron Brewood: CG> If anything changes before the Atari shows please keep me updated.Will do. CG> Have you got a WAG link?Of course.Daron - dbrewood@nest.demon.co.uk | dbrewood@cix.compulink.co.uk-+-Compiler: A program for converting errors into bugs.--- JetMail 0.99beta22 * Origin: NeST WWW: http://www.nest.demon.co.uk/ (NeST 90:100/106) 113 08-15-9606:57Simon Coward Daron Brewood Re: MIME 0 4 *In a message of 12 Aug 96 Simon Coward (90:100/312) woffled to Daron Brewood: SC> Yes but will it work with Zetnet?AFAIK.Daron - dbrewood@nest.demon.co.uk | dbrewood@cix.compulink.co.uk-+-"Just remember that the last laugh is on you..."--- JetMail 0.99beta22 * Origin: NeST WWW: http://www.nest.demon.co.uk/ (NeST 90:100/106) 114 08-13-9610:28Daron Brewood Antony Lacey NeST WWW Pages. 0 8 *Daron Brewood previously scribbled to All ... Hiya Daron... DB> Demon announcing that their members will receive 1mb of free Web DB> space from the 1st of August.5Meg ;-)) DB> - Can anyone advise how one goes about adding a web counter to the DB> home page.There's a script you can use .... look at Demon's info on www.demon.co.uk andthe bit on homepages .. you can use their script in the page very easily! DB> Fun this HTML stuff, I should have got into ti ages ago!Isn't it just ..... compliments BBS's very well IMHO!Cheers ... Antony All At Sea BBS. Coventry's ONLY Atari BBS! Free Internet E-Mail for users/points and special areas for Sea Scouts. --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: All At Sea BBS +44 (0)1203 601448 (NeST 90:102/146.99) 115 08-15-9622:34Antony Lacey Daron Brewood NeST WWW Pages. 0 8 *In a message of 13 Aug 96 Antony Lacey (90:102/146.99) woffled to DaronBrewood: AL> 5Meg ;-))And I've used almost half of it already. AL> There's a script you can use .... look at Demon's info on AL> www.demon.co.uk and the bit on homepages .. you can use their script in AL> the page very easily!That's old news now, I've progressed way beyond matters of simple counters. AL> Isn't it just ..... compliments BBS's very well IMHO!Oh aye, I keep fiddling though looking for improvements.Daron - dbrewood@nest.demon.co.uk | dbrewood@cix.compulink.co.uk-+-Remember the "Old Ones" who used to commune in sacred chambers filledwith the racks of IBM relics, all to the arcanic blinking of CPU-registerindicators and clatter of punched card readers?Bo Leuf--- JetMail 0.99beta22 * Origin: NeST WWW: http://www.nest.demon.co.uk/ (NeST 90:100/106) 36 08-09-9620:34Daron Brewood Jonathan Nott Re: NeST Website 0 5 !*Hi Daron, ...you said to Jonathan Nott:JN>> what's the address??DB> http://www.nest.demon.co.uk/You've been added in the August update - online this weekend!DB> * Origin: NeST WWW: http://www.nest.demon.co.uk/ (NeST 90:100/106)but spotted here first!BFN, Jon* Kivi 1.41a * "Deep Thought paused for a moment's reflection." (42:42/0)--- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (NeST 90:102/166) 37 08-09-9620:34Daron Brewood Jonathan Nott Re: NeST Official WWW Pag 0 6 !*Hi Daron, ...you said to Jonathan Nott:JN>> Wahay... Your own sub-domain - not bad :)DB> WE've always had that with Demon.Aha, but netkonect would give you 'account@nest.netkonect.co.uk' but only 'www.netkonect.net/nest/' for your website!DB> That's because long standing points should become private nodes.As soon as I have a Hard drive I'll become a point and then a pvt node asap!!BFN, Jon* Kivi 1.41a * Skimming the networks from 42BBS (90:102/166)--- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (NeST 90:102/166) 38 08-09-9622:38All Harry Sideras Calling all User Group re 0 7 !*Hi All,Could all/any *members* of UK Atari User Groups (not necessarily the peoplethat run them) - contact me wrt the upcoming Atari shows and other matters?Netmail responses preferred, but if you don't have (or understand) Netmail apublic reply here would be acceptable. Basically I need a phone number outof everyone who replies - either your own or that of the best contact name atthe group you belong to.Many thanksRegards,Harry SiderasUK Association of Atari User Groups** Do you want Celery with that? **-= I am Bjoern of Borg - Wimbledon is irrelevant =---- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: Stand back! I don't know how big this thing gets (90:102/143) 39 08-10-9610:06Jonathan Nott Daron Brewood Re: NeST Website 0 5 !*In a message of 09 Aug 96 Jonathan Nott (90:102/166) woffled to Daron Brewood: JN> You've been added in the August update - online this weekend!Cheers Jon, appreciated. JN> but spotted here first!Indeed.Daron - dbrewood@nest.demon.co.uk | dbrewood@cix.compulink.co.uk-+-Red haired lasses know how to do it.--- JetMail 0.99beta22 * Origin: NeST WWW: http://www.nest.demon.co.uk/ (NeST 90:100/106) 40 08-10-9610:07Jonathan Nott Daron Brewood Re: NeST Official WWW Pag 0 7 !*In a message of 09 Aug 96 Jonathan Nott (90:102/166) woffled to Daron Brewood: JN> Aha, but netkonect would give you 'account@nest.netkonect.co.uk' but JN> only 'www.netkonect.net/nest/' for your website!Got you, in any case I'm more than happy with Demon, they got something rightfor once. JN> As soon as I have a Hard drive I'll become a point and then a pvt JN> node asap!!Good youth (sic) now's the time to do it.Daron - dbrewood@nest.demon.co.uk | dbrewood@cix.compulink.co.uk-+-But magic has a habit of lying low, like a rake in the grass.Terry Pratchett - Equal Rites.--- JetMail 0.99beta22 * Origin: NeST WWW: http://www.nest.demon.co.uk/ (NeST 90:100/106) 41 08-11-9618:46Mike Kerslake Chris Bloy magazine 0 3 !*Hi mike,Could i have a copy of your mag. When it's printed? :-)-+ Chris +-Image House Software - The STOSware company - "It's alive!"* Kivi 1.41a * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (NeST 90:100/300) 42 08-12-966:49:All Daron Brewood NeST Internet User list. 0 83 !*NeST InterNet User List - 08 August 1996. ========================================= SysOp/User InterNet Addresss NeST Address -------------------- ----------------------------------------- ------------ Andersen, Kim dksoft@image.dk 90:1500/102 Andersson, Christian faltrion@mail.kd.qd.se 90:1103/105 Andreasson, Stefan stefan_andreasson@master.ct.se 90:1101/0 Andreasson, Stefan stefana@tripnet.se Baird, Brian brian@sol.co.uk 90:100/113 Baker, Mark mnb20@cam.ac.uk 90:102/140.17 Balun, Rayko balun@gold.t-informatik.ba-stuttgart.de 90:400/205 Basford, Steve steve@babcom.servelan.co.uk 90:102/148 Basford, Steve babcom@mettav.demon.co.uk Beardsworth, Kevin kbeardsworth@cix.compulink.co.uk 90:102/167 http://www.walusoft.co.uk/fff/home.htm http://www.fffnet.demon.co.uk/ Bochmann, Alexander bochmann@infra.de 90:400/101 Bochmann, Alexander bochmann@informatik.uni-freiburg.de Brewood, Daron dbrewood@cix.compulink.co.uk 90:90/0 Brewood, Daron dbrewood@nest.demon.co.uk http://www.nest.demon.co.uk/ Brockmann, Carsten Carsten_Brockmann@aventure.teuto.de 90:400/1001 Charles, john jaycee@midmarsh.demon.co.uk n/a Charlton, Frank de18@dail.pipex.com 90:100/407 Charlton, Frank frank@support.tachyon.co.uk Chin Lim, Lee leecl@singnet.com.sg 90:17/0 Coates, Stuart scoates@filesys.demon.co.uk n/a Collins, Jim jimcollins@delphi.com 90:301/8 Croker, Derryck Derryck.Croker@bbc.co.uk 90:102/40.24 derryck@cix.compulink.co.uk Crommie, Martin martin_crommie@f79.n105.z1.fidonet.org 90:304/4 Curtis, Andy andy@adlib.co.uk 90:100/400 Dahl, Christian di3dah@cse.hks.se 90:1103/104 Dao, Dag dada@dada.pp.se 90:1102/116 Dao, Dag dag.dao@dada.ct.se Davidson, Samuel samuel@touchdwn.demon.co.uk 90:100/111 De.Petris, Mike mike@interware.it 90:700/104 Denebian, Max max_denebian@f318.n105.z1.fidonet.org 90:304/200 Dray, Richard rdray@nest.demon.co.uk 90:104/114 Dubielski, Daniel Daniel.Dubielski@f14.n481.z2.fidonet.org 90:1300/300 Dubielski, Daniel bj218@freenet.hsc.colorado.edu Dubielski, Daniel steelrat@plearn.edu.pl Fehlman, Jeff JFehlman@ix.netcom.com 90:300/15 Fisher, Herb hfisher@teleport.com 90:304/0.0 Fisher-Mcallum, Colin colinfm@cix.compulink.co.ok 90:102/166 colin@fffnet.demon.co.uk http://www.walusoft.co.uk/fff/home.htm http://www.fffnet.demon.co.uk/ Flintham, Nicholas Nick@Flinny.demon.co.uk 90:100/403 nflintham@cix.compulink.co.uk n.p.flintham@unn.ac.uk http://www.unn.ac.uk/~cju920/ Foley, Karl kfoley@cameo.co.uk 90:102/202 Gilbert, Tony tone@swoon.demon.co.uk 90:102/146.2 Gilbert, Tony tone@allatsea.demon.co.uk Good, Chris cgood@cix.compulink.co.uk 90:102/166.3 chris@fffnet.demon.co.uk Goold, Alasdair agoold@cix.compulink.co.uk 90:102/166 http://www.compulink.co.uk/~agoold/welcome.htm Goring, Roy rgoring@zetnet.co.uk 90:102/166.14 rgoring@cix.compulink.co.uk http://www.compulink.co.uk/~mrgs/roys/roy_home.htm Haake, Stefan Stefan_Haake@bb.maus.de 90:400/215 Henderson, David dhend@zetnet.co.uk 90:104/115 Hodgkins, Phil phodgkins@cix.compulink.co.uk 90:100/110 Hook, Darren dhook@mettav.demon.co.uk 90:102/151 Iversen, Morten miversen@cph-co.bru-ro.DHL.COM (work) 90:1500/105 Iversen, Morten miversen@vbrocon.ping.dk (home) Jackson, Joe joej@sat.net 90:302/3 Jackson, Keith kjackson@cix.compulink.co.uk 90:103/102 Jackson, Keith enxkj@unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk Jagard, Bertil bertil.jagard@straight.ct.se 90:1101/104 Jagard, Bertil sak@straight.ct.se (Swedish Atari Club) Jay, Paul pjay@heathen.demon.co.uk 90:100/300 Jensen, Stein Arne 211-60-10!stein_arne.jensen@prosoft.bbs.no 90:1400/10 Kaempf, Wolfgang Wolfgang_Kaempf@hn.maus.de 90:400/213 Karlsson, Mikael mik@viking.ct.se 90:1103/102 Kelly, Glen gkelly@sat.net 90:302/2 Ketting, Ton tonk@box.nl 90:500/2 Kock, Jesper kock@kockens.pp.se 90:1102/0 Kock, Jesper jesper.kock@kockens.ct.se Kuil, Koos koos_kuil@nextjk.stuyts.nl 90:500/103 Lacey, Antony algy@allatsea.demon.co.uk 90:102/146 Lafontaine, Dennis DLAF@nighthawk.fidonet.org 90:303/109 Leuf, Bo bo@daggskim.ct.se 90:1102/106 Little, Doug dlittle@nest.demon.co.uk 90:100/102 Lock, Mick mlocka@cix.compulink.co.uk 90:102/166.15 Lupomesky, Borek lupomesky@kvt.ujep.cz 90:12/0 Lystad, Sten sten.lystad@dasan.no 90:1400/107 Mackereth, Ian ianm@jolt.mpx.com.au 90:6/0 Maisey, Martin M.J.Maisey@durham.ac.uk 90:104/105 Matts, Mark matzy@filesys.demon.co.uk n/a Mattsson, Mikke sprouts@kd.qd.se 90:1103/0 McDonald, Laurence lau@cix.compulink.co.uk 90:102/102 McDonald, Laurence laurence@bitscorp.com Meaker, Dave dsm@walusoft.demon.co.uk 90:102/162 http://www.walusoft.co.uk/ Nielsen, Flemming digisoft@image.dk 90:1500/101 Nilsen, Thomas thomas.nilsen@login.eunet.no 90:1400/108 Nordlander, Joakim jonord@itv.se 90:1103/106 Nordlander, Joakim jonord@pinky2.itv.se Nott, Jonathan jon@fffnet.demon.co.uk 90:102/166 http://www.walusoft.co.uk/anl/ Oldfield, Craig craig@thebrink.demon.co.uk 90:100/107 Osborne, Kevin Kevo@dircon.co.uk 90:102/0 Osborne, Kevin kevin@fourthrite.co.uk Osborne, Kevin kevin@fourthnet.co.uk Partner, James jpartner@cix.compulink.co.uk 90:100/101 Partner, James jpartner@track83.demon.co.uk Petersen, Al apeters4542@aol.com 90:3/0 Piedvache, Herve herve@parx.frmug.fr.net 90:8/0 Richardson, John jrichard@nest.demon.co.uk 90:104/130 Richardson, John johnr@apollo.warp.co.uk Robins, Simon srobins@cix.compulink.co.uk 90:100/102 Roesen, Daniel bofh@pobox.com 90:400/602 Rogala, Irek jorgi@belka.bl.pg.gda.pl 90:1300/301 Rogala, Irek Irek.Rogala@p9.f14.n481.z2.fidonet.org Sherwin, Kevin Kevin@Ksherwin.demon.co.uk 90:103/105 Shortland, Alastair ashort@mettav.demon.co.uk 90:102/150 Sideras, Harry sidcelery@cix.compulink.co.uk 90:102/143 hsideras@mettav.demon.co.uk Simmonds, Paul paul@tgm.legend.co.uk 90:100/112 Sint, Ruud ruud_sint@nextjk.stuyts.nl 90:500/211.12 Slabihoud, Stephan slabih00@marvin.informatik.uni-dormund.de 90:400/410 slabbi@kali.rhein-ruhr.de 90:400/404.6 Sorensen, Dan dan@jydeskar.ping.dk 90:1500/105.4 Spilker, Joerg Joerg_Spilker@aventure.teuto.de 90:4/0 Stacey, Martin mstacey@rdl.co.uk 90:102/161 mas@walusoft.demon.co.uk http://www.walusoft.co.uk/ Stewart, Neil nstewart@nest.demon.co.uk 90:100/104 Sweet, Steve ssweet@mettav.demon.co.uk 90:102/142 Swelgin, Don keeper@prolog.net 90:301/18.1 Sychra, Matej p0.f69.n420.z2%fido@a1fel.cvut.cz 90:1200/3 Tan, Jwu-Jiun tanjj@merlion.singnet.com.sg 90:1700/101 Taylor, Andy andy.taylor@penske.coracle.com 90:106/140 Terweij, Danny danny_terweij@nextjk.stuyts.nl 90:500/214 Thomas, David davtom@drmach.demon.co.uk 90:103/103 Thomason, Tom tom.thomason@fpc.ct.se 90:1101/117 Rich Tietjens starship@3rdplanet.com 90:304/6.0 RichardX_Tietjens@ccm.jf.intel.com Trutzenbach, Darren darrenet@aol.com 90:301/18 Trutzenbach, Darren darren_et@msn.com Trutzenbach, Darren darren.trutzenbach%roundtable@olympus.org Wessex Atari Group Goring, Roy rgoring@zetnet.co.uk 90:102/166.14 rgoring@cix.compulink.co.uk http://www.compulink.co.uk/~mrgs/wag/welcome.htm Werner, Magnus M.Werner@abc.se 90:1104/104 Wong, Gareth Wongg@aston.ac.uk 90:103/108 Wong, Gareth Wongg@charlie.aston.ac.uk Wong, Gareth gareth.wong@theshack.seuk.com Wright, Dale Dale1@cix.compulink.co.uk 90:100/401 --- Mr Happy V1.02 AutoNote [JetMail 0.99beta22] * Origin: NeST WWW: http://www.nest.demon.co.uk/ (NeST 90:100/106) 43 08-11-9620:04Roy Goring Harry Sideras Atari shows & User Groups 0 13 !**Hi Roy*, on 09 Aug 96 you wrote: ...respect, brethren RG> This is a posting giving some of the details about some discussions RG> that have been going on between several Atari User Groups, UKAAUG and RG> The Atari Shows organisers.And there was me trying to keep it all a big secret B^{) RG> ALL Atari User Groups are invited to make use of the stand :-)Certainly, but for the Birmingham one please clear it through me first, justso that I know who to expect and to make sure we've got enough room on top ofwhat's already been committed.The more the merrier (and I may get a chance to look around too)! RG> Also at the shows there will be a flyer with details of all the UGs, RG> and a universal membership form. If you want some info put on this RG> then please contact me here.In progress as we speak. Again, if any group wants to produce their ownseparate more detailed flyer we can hold it on the stand too. RG> The main people involved ATM in the organising of this stand are - RG> RG> Harry Sideras RG> Mick Lock RG> Alasdair Goold RG> Derryck Croker RG> Roy Goring RG> RG> These can all be contacted via this echo, or netmail.Though Alasdair's on his hols atm, so expect a short delay.Regards,HarryUK Association of Atari User Groups** Do you want Celery with that? **-= Your mortgage has not been assimilated! - Conservative Party Borg =---- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: NO! to a cat means "Not while I am looking." (90:102/143) 44 08-13-9618:50Roy Goring Chris Good Re: Atari shows & User Gr 0 5 !*Hi Harry, ...In your message to Roy Goring you wrote... RG>> The main people involved ATM in the organising of this stand are - RG>> RG>> Harry Sideras RG>> Mick Lock RG>> Alasdair Goold RG>> Derryck Croker RG>> Roy GoringWhat about me then???'til the next time:)*/Chris/*--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: The third point off the 42BBS!! (90:100/303) 45 08-11-9610:14Roy Goring Derryck Croker Atari shows & User Groups 0 5 !*This message from Roy to All came in on a wing and a prayer... RG> The main people involved ATM in the organising of this stand are - RG> Derryck CrokerNetmail at the address below,Or Email to:DCroker@mettav.demon.co.ukderryck@cix.compulink.co.ukDerryck.Croker@bbc.co.ukRegards, Derryck (Cheshunt Computer Club)** End of Derryck's Dribbles ~{:~)-= C:\DOS C:\DOS\RUN RUN\DOS\RUN--- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: Derryck's point at the Tavern (Nest 90:102/140.24) 46 08-14-9608:00Chris Good Roy Goring Re: Atari shows & User Gr 0 5 !*Hi Chris, .....You said to Roy Goring CG> What about me then??? CG> You were mentioned further up the message as doing the web pages, You don'tget two mentions :-pYours Royrgoring@zetnet.co.uk or rgoring if you're on CixJoin Wessex Atari Group now on 42BBS 01256-895106--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: Node body nodes the trouble I've been :-) (90:100/310) 47 08-15-9619:26Daron Brewood Chris Bloy neST list 0 5 !*Hi Daron,Could you add me to your neST list please :-)____________________________________________________Bloy, Chris cbloy@fffnet.demon.co.uk 90:102/166----------------------------------------------------Thanx-+ Chris +-LOOK! - E-mail me today:cbloy@fffnet.demon.co.uk - "It's alive!"* Kivi 1.41a * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (NeST 90:100/300) 48 08-13-9610:40Jonathan Nott Antony Lacey NeST Official WWW Pages u 0 8 !*Jonathan Nott previously scribbled to Daron Brewood ... Hiya Jonathan... DB>> - Accessing NeST via BBS, QWK, Private Node & SysOp. JN> JN> You left out points :~]All it needs is a copy of the APOINTS.FAQ available to download! Which should have been posted here regularly and hasn't .. hmm, that's myfault. I'll get onto that .... I have 2 FAQ's I post into Turbonet T_POINTS .. one about pointing, the otherabout becoming a Private Node ... I will be posting them here as well ifanyone wants the info. Cheers ... Antony All At Sea BBS. Coventry's ONLY Atari BBS! Free Internet E-Mail for users/points and special areas for Sea Scouts. --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: All At Sea BBS +44 (0)1203 601448 (NeST 90:102/146.99) 49 08-13-9610:41All Antony Lacey {EM} Off Topic Chat 0 3 !*Could I ask you all to keep the chat on topic here please. Having been away for 2 weeks it looks as if N.ST.COMMS.INTERNET has mergedwith this echo ;-)))) --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: All At Sea BBS +44 (0)1203 601448 (NeST 90:102/146.99) 50 08-13-9619:49Daron Brewood Steve Sweet NeST Internet User list. 0 8 !*Yo! Daron Dude!Whilst under caution Daron said to Officer All :~)Now what were you saying to Colin t'other morrow.?? DB> Fisher-Mcallum, Colin colinfm@cix.compulink.co.ok 90:102/166 DB> Good, Chris cgood@cix.compulink.co.uk 90:102/166.3 DB> Goold, Alasdair agoold@cix.compulink.co.uk 90:102/166 DB> Goring, Roy rgoring@zetnet.co.uk 90:102/166.14 DB> Lock, Mick mlocka@cix.compulink.co.uk 90:102/166.15 DB> Nott, Jonathan jon@fffnet.demon.co.uk 90:102/166 DB> Goring, Roy rgoring@zetnet.co.uk 90:102/166.14 Bit of duplication with the last one there as well. Regards from STEve & his nice warm cosey PAK'd MegaSTE.--- JetMail 0.99beta22 * Origin: Steve's Warm Cosey Private Node :~) (Nest 90:102/142) 51 08-15-9622:36Antony Lacey Daron Brewood NeST Official WWW Pages u 0 6 !*In a message of 13 Aug 96 Antony Lacey (90:102/146.99) woffled to JonathanNott: AL> I have 2 FAQ's I post into Turbonet T_POINTS .. one about pointing, the AL> other about becoming a Private Node ... I will be posting them here as AL> well if anyone wants the info.Well, if you want to HTML them I'll bung them up.Daron - dbrewood@nest.demon.co.uk | dbrewood@cix.compulink.co.uk-+-The reason behind the style of the new IBM logo is that this was the bestthey could achieve in the resolution they had.--- JetMail 0.99beta22 * Origin: NeST WWW: http://www.nest.demon.co.uk/ (NeST 90:100/106) 52 08-15-9622:37Steve Sweet Daron Brewood NeST Internet User list. 0 6 !*In a message of 13 Aug 96 Steve Sweet (90:102/142) woffled to Daron Brewood: SS> Now what were you saying to Colin t'other morrow.??Not a lot as address'es are only changed on request, as advised previously. Ido not have the time to go routing out peoples new address's.Daron - dbrewood@nest.demon.co.uk | dbrewood@cix.compulink.co.uk-+-Remember the "Old Ones" who used to commune in sacred chambers filledwith the racks of IBM relics, all to the arcanic blinking of CPU-registerindicators and clatter of punched card readers?Bo Leuf--- JetMail 0.99beta22 * Origin: NeST WWW: http://www.nest.demon.co.uk/ (NeST 90:100/106) 17 08-09-9620:34Daron Brewood Jonathan Nott Re: Stuff 0 5 *Hi Daron, ...you said to Jonathan Nott:JN>> Who's he??? More to the point, where's he???DB> DB> Only the WEC , and in Sweden.I look at the NeSTlist tells me he's the echo co-ord. Does he blink direct to the NeST WHQ??BFN, Jon* Kivi 1.41a * Skimming the networks from 42BBS (90:102/166)--- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (NeST 90:102/166) 18 08-05-9620:40All Carl Hender Lottery Companion 0 5 *I got a message from Mark Butler saying that The UK Lottery Companion version4 is getting very close for release. I believe this version will also takeadvantage of the mid week lottery draws. Bye, /Carl/<< Atari Falcon030\605HD\HPDJ600<->486DX4\75\8Mb+CDROM >><< *carl@hender.dungeon.com* >><< http://www.dungeon.com/~hender/index.html >>--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl7 eta * Origin: Carls very own Node (90:102/205) 19 08-09-9610:33Jonathan Nott Tom Thomason Re: Stuff 0 12 *On 01 Aug 96, Jonathan Nott shot this through the ether to Daron Brewood... JN> Are you the EM in here? No, he's not. I am. JN> Can you please netmail me the echo rules, as they obviously came JN> through before we got fixed in! I will post them sometime this week. I've haven't posted them earlier as Iwas waiting to see if one of the other support site managers wanted to assumethe position in my place. This hasn't happened. The last ten days or so, myHost's system has been down several times which has affected my mail. The rules I will post won't differ greatly from the standard rules posted inmost areas. The major difference will, of course, be the description of theareas purpose, which is to support *all* ShareWare programs not having theirown, specific .SUP area. Although the official moderator will, for technicalreasons, always be one of the ASSI (Atari ShareWare Support International)support site managers, the area is open to *all* ShareWare authors wishing toprovide direct support for their programs.ATB,Tom ThomasonEcho Moderator  Falcon030 Tower 14/730 SCSI 28k8 HPDJ 310  NeST: 90:1101/117.0 Fido: 2:203/203.15 AtariNet: 51:1102/101.15 Internet: tom_thomason@fpc.ct.se--- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: Member of the ASSI Support Team! +46-31-545526 (90:1101/117) 20 08-09-9610:43Daron Brewood Tom Thomason Re: Stuff 0 6 *On 02 Aug 96, Daron Brewood shot this through the ether to Jonathan Nott... DB> It has been a while since the last posting. Mea culpa, Daron. Actually, I've not yet posted any rules. The ones I dopost will be more or less the standard rules, i.e. no flames, no handles, etc.ATB,Tom  Falcon030 Tower 14/730 SCSI 28k8 HPDJ 310  NeST: 90:1101/117.0 Fido: 2:203/203.15 AtariNet: 51:1102/101.15 Internet: tom_thomason@fpc.ct.se--- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: Member of the ASSI Support Team! +46-31-545526 (90:1101/117) 21 08-10-9610:10Tom Thomason Daron Brewood Re: Stuff 0 7 *In a message of 09 Aug 96 Tom Thomason (90:1101/117) woffled to Daron Brewood: TT> Mea culpa, Daron. Actually, I've not yet posted any rules. The ones I TT> do post will be more or less the standard rules, i.e. no flames, no TT> handles, etc. ATB,No worries, I presumed that was the case, but was a little concerned as I'dnot seen any messages at all from you for quite a while.Daron - dbrewood@nest.demon.co.uk | dbrewood@cix.compulink.co.uk-+-The reason behind the style of the new IBM logo is that this was the bestthey could achieve in the resolution they had.--- JetMail 0.99beta22 * Origin: NeST WWW: http://www.nest.demon.co.uk/ (NeST 90:100/106) 22 08-10-9610:11Colin Fisher-McAllum Daron Brewood Re: Stuff 0 5 *In a message of 09 Aug 96 Colin Fisher-McAllum (90:102/166.6) woffled to SteveSweet: CF> --- JetMail 0.99beta21 CF> * Origin: Col's byte on the side! (NeST 90:102/166.6)Pssst! Wrong address Col.Daron - dbrewood@nest.demon.co.uk | dbrewood@cix.compulink.co.uk-+-But magic has a habit of lying low, like a rake in the grass.Terry Pratchett - Equal Rites.--- JetMail 0.99beta22 * Origin: NeST WWW: http://www.nest.demon.co.uk/ (NeST 90:100/106) 23 08-10-9610:12Jonathan Nott Daron Brewood Re: Stuff 0 6 *In a message of 09 Aug 96 Jonathan Nott (90:102/166) woffled to Daron Brewood: JN> I look at the NeSTlist tells me he's the echo co-ord. Does he blink JN> direct to the NeST WHQ??Nope, too expensive for that. Tom links in internationally.Daron - dbrewood@nest.demon.co.uk | dbrewood@cix.compulink.co.uk-+-The reason behind the style of the new IBM logo is that this was the bestthey could achieve in the resolution they had.--- JetMail 0.99beta22 * Origin: NeST WWW: http://www.nest.demon.co.uk/ (NeST 90:100/106) 24 08-10-9612:26Jonathan Nott Tom Thomason {EM} Re: Stuff 0 14 *On 06 Aug 96, Jonathan Nott shot this through the ether to Daron Brewood... JN> Who's he??? More to the point, where's he??? Do you mean apart from being the Echo Moderator in here? :^) Apart from thatI'm the World Echo Coordinator (WEC) for NeST, one of the founding members ofASSI, the C-Lab distributor for Scandinavia and distributor/translator ofcommercial/ShareWare software. To answer the question you posed in another message I received today(although I seem to remember answering it in a message I sent off yesterday),ASSI stands for Atari ShareWare Support International. As to where I am, that can, of course, be taken two ways. I'm right hereas you can see. If you meant geographically (which I doubt, but what theh*ll), I'm located in Gothenburg which is the second largest city in Sweden. JN> Come on then Tom - show yourself and re-post the rules :) Again, I seem to remember explaining my recent absence yesterday but,just in case... My host's system has gone down several times in the lastcouple of weeks so there's been an interruption in my mail flow. You'll findthat I'm almost always here. Do, however, be aware of the fact that it oftentakes three or four days for my mails to appear in the area. This has to dowith the international routing and is completely beyond my control. You'llalso discover that I have a reputation for sometimes writing rather lengthymessages. As for the rules, these should appear in the same batch of mail as thismessage.ATB,TomEcho Moderator--- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: Member of the ASSI Support Team! +46-31-545526 (90:1101/117) 25 08-10-9612:40Daron Brewood Tom Thomason {EM} Re: Stuff 0 4 *On 07 Aug 96, Daron Brewood shot this through the ether to Jonathan Nott... DB> Only the WEC , and in Sweden. DB> JN>> Come on then Tom - show yourself and re-post the rules :) DB> DB> Ye, wake up Tom. You rang, Oh Great Lord of the Dark?? 8^)Cheers,Tom--- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: Member of the ASSI Support Team! +46-31-545526 (90:1101/117) 26 08-10-9614:01ALL Tom Thomason Echo Rules 0 26 *Area rules for: N.SUP.ASSI Issue 1/96 10 August, 1996Echo Moderator: Tom Thomason 90:1101/117.0==============================================================================[1.0] Echo Access This area is open to ALL.[2.0] The Purpose of the Echo To provide support for all ShareWare programs not having their own, specific .SUP areas within NeST. It should be made clear that, although it is for technical reasons designated as an ASSI area, this area is open to ALL ShareWare authors so that they may support their own programs.[3.0] Handles Although handles will be tolerated, it is preferred that users identify themselves by their real names.[4.0] Moderator's Duties It is the moderator's job to moderate. If you have any complaints about messages posted in the echo, these should be brought to the attention of the Echo Moderator via NetMail. He will then take any action he deems necessary. Do *not* attempt to moderate others at the risk of being moderated yourself. The moderator shall ensure that messages posted in the area remain on- topic within reasonable limits, these limits to be determined by the Moderator. A reasonable amount of chatting will be tolerated. Please do not abuse the privilege.[5.0] Area Rules The moderator reserves the right to modify these rules at any time, without prior notice. These rules will be published in the echo once a month and any changes will be indicated by a change in the revision number and date shown in the header. Notice of such changes will also be communicated to the WEC.[6.0] Change of Moderators Due to the particular nature of this area, the post of moderator is restricted to ASSI Support Site Managers or to a representative designated by that group as a whole. This is NOT to be construed to mean that the area exists only for the support of programs included in that group's support lists. [6.1] Voluntary Resignation If, at any time, the Echo Moderator wishes to resign his position it is his duty to seek a replacement among the current ASSI Support Site Managers. If such a replacement is found by the current moderator, it is the moderator's privilege to install him by appointment. [6.2] Involuntary Resignation or Removal If, at any time, it should be deemed necessary by the participants of this echo to request or force the resignation of the moderator for reasons of misconduct or failure to carry out his appointed duties, this shall be done according to the procedures laid down in paragraph [6.4.2] of the current NeST Echo Policy document (NESTEPLY.xxx).[7.0] So-called "flaming" is forbidden.Tom ThomasonEcho Moderator  Falcon030 Tower 14/730 SCSI 28k8 HPDJ 310  NeST: 90:1101/117.0 Fido: 2:203/203.15 AtariNet: 51:1102/101.15 Internet: tom_thomason@fpc.ct.se--- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: Member of the ASSI Support Team! +46-31-545526 (90:1101/117) 27 08-12-9607:17Tom Thomason {EM} Daron Brewood Re: Stuff 0 5 *In a message of 10 Aug 96 Tom Thomason {EM} (90:1101/117) woffled to DaronBrewood: TT> You rang, Oh Great Lord of the Dark?? 8^)Oy I'm not either! You'll have Merriman Lyon after me!Daron - dbrewood@nest.demon.co.uk | dbrewood@cix.compulink.co.uk-+-The reason behind the style of the new IBM logo is that this was the bestthey could achieve in the resolution they had.--- JetMail 0.99beta22 * Origin: NeST WWW: http://www.nest.demon.co.uk/ (NeST 90:100/106) 28 08-12-9611:52All Roger Cain GEMAR 3.05 0 6 *I regulaly use DB but am having a play with the new generation of GEMAR to seewhether to change back again.Unfortunately I don't get much further than square one as GEMAR refuses tofind my streamer (a VIP 2150).I have copied vip2150.par to gemar.par and have loaded the scsidrv.prg atstart up but when doing "Load Tape" I get the alert "Streamer not found". Thestreamer ID is correctly identified when scsidrv initialises.I must be doing something basically wrong. Clues, anyone?I am running 4Mb ST with Magic 2 and ICD hard discs.Roger--- JetMail 0.99beta22 * Origin: Gatley Point (NeST 90:100/103) 29 08-11-9612:54Carl Hender Harry Sideras Lottery Companion 0 6 **Hi Carl*, on 05 Aug 96 you wrote: ...respect, brethren CH> I got a message from Mark Butler saying that The UK Lottery Companion CH> version 4 is getting very close for release. I believe this version CH> will also take advantage of the mid week lottery draws.And the beta is on his Web page AIUI, but I've forgotten where he's relocatedto - can you remind me?Regards,Sid CeleryUK Association of Atari User Groups** Do you want Celery with that? **-= Borger King: We do it our way! Your way is irrelevant! =---- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: What is a "free" gift ? Aren't all gifts free? (90:102/143) 30 08-11-9620:15Carl Hender Harry Sideras Lottery Companion 0 6 **Hi Carl*, on 11 Aug 96 I wrote: ...respect, brethren CH>> I got a message from Mark Butler saying that The UK Lottery Companion CH>> version 4 is getting very close for release. HS> And the beta is on his Web page AIUI, but I've forgotten where he's HS> relocated to - can you remind me?Too late - I found it.http://www.dwell.demon.co.ukRegards,Sid CeleryUK Association of Atari User Groups** Do you want Celery with that? **-= You will be assimilated in due course - NHS Borg =---- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: NO! to a cat means "Not while I am looking." (90:102/143) 31 08-11-9620:24Daron Brewood Harry Sideras Re: Stuff 0 14 **Hi Daron*, on 02 Aug 96 you wrote to *Steve Sweet*: ...respect, brethrenSorry for the delay in posting this - I've only just got Start properlyinstalled (and just picked up v1.10e - the English version - which ought tobe at 42BBS very shortly I guess). SS>> And you are running under magix i beleive, strange, it works here. DB> And under Thing as well.Have you got your #_ENV 's sorted out?#_ENV HOME=C:\AUTO\APPS\ ; or wherever you want START.SET to be#_ENV AVSERVER=THING SS>> What setting do you have in the .SET file for the AV options. DB> DB> /avignoreThing is an AVSERVER so set it up as such with the ENV variable shown aboveand comment the /avignore line out. DB> /backwind DB> #/applineYou don't have Appline installed? They make a perfect partnership IMO. Ifyou do use Appline, uncomment /appline and Start will be appended before theAppline button-bar and will move along as Appline gets resized (I just set upAppline properly yesterday too). DB> /tosmultistartDo you really want this? It allows the same TOS to be started multiple times.Can I recommend one other line in your /folders section? /folder MagiC Processes U:\PROCWith this you can access drive U: active processes without having to endureaccessing drive A.Regards,Sid CeleryUK Association of Atari User Groups** Do you want Celery with that? **-= Borger King: We do it our way! Your way is irrelevant! =---- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: State Of The Art is technospeak for unproven. (90:102/143) 32 08-12-9621:59Harry Sideras Daron Brewood Re: Stuff 0 20 *In a message of 11 Aug 96 Harry Sideras (90:102/143) woffled to Daron Brewood: HS> Sorry for the delay in posting this - I've only just got Start properly HS> installed (and just picked up v1.10e - the English version - which HS> ought to be at 42BBS very shortly I guess).Yep, got it myself on CIX tonight. HS> Have you got your #_ENV 's sorted out?Yep:#_ENV HOME=C:\HOME\#_ENVPATH=C:\;J:\THING\;H:\BT\;H:\CIXREAD\;E:\NEW\;C:\GEMSYS;H:\BT\;H:\NL;C:\GEMSYS\GEMDESK\;F:\UTILS\EVEREST\;H:\BT\SEMPER\;I:\OASIS2\#_ENV EDITOR=F:\UTILS\EVEREST\EVEREST.PRG#_ENV EDITHSYSTEM=g:\edith\system#_ENV JETMAIL=h:\bt\#_ENV MAILER=h:\bt\#_ENV LED=h:\bt\led\#_ENV CIXNAME=dbrewood@cix.compulink.co.uk#_ENV REPLY=h:\cixread\#_ENV SCRATCH=h:\cixread\scratchp#_ENV TEMPPATH=h:\cixread\#_ENV CIXCOMM=h:\cixread\#_ENV CIXREAD=h:\cixread\#_ENV SEMPER=h:\bt\semper\#_ENV EVEREST=f:\utils\everest\#_ENV ESS_DPATH=E:\#_ENV THINGDIR=J:\THING\#_ENV TWOINENG=G:\ARC\2IN1151E\TWOINENG.151\#_ENV FONTSELECT=THING#_ENV COLUMNS=86#_ENV LINES=24#_ENV PGPPATH=I:\OASIS2\#_ENV SHSHOW F:\UTILS\GRAPHIC\LOOKNSEE\LOOKNSEE.PRG;#_ENV CMDSHELL=F:\UTILS\CMD_261\CMD.TTP#_ENV CMDSHELL=C:\GEMSYS\GEMDESK\MCMD.TOS HS> Thing is an AVSERVER so set it up as such with the ENV variable shown HS> above and comment the /avignore line out.Ah right, done that now. HS> You don't have Appline installed? They make a perfect partnership IMO. HS> If you do use Appline, uncomment /appline and Start will be appended HS> before the Appline button-bar and will move along as Appline gets HS> resized (I just set up Appline properly yesterday too).Yep I do use Appline, but I don't want Start positioned near it. DB>> /tosmultistart HS> HS> Do you really want this? It allows the same TOS to be started multiple HS> times. Ah ha, now removed. HS> /folder MagiC Processes U:\PROC HS> HS> With this you can access drive U: active processes without having to HS> endure accessing drive A.Gotcha, now added.Hopefully this might have some effect, I'll let you know.Daron - dbrewood@nest.demon.co.uk | dbrewood@cix.compulink.co.uk-+-The reason behind the style of the new IBM logo is that this was the bestthey could achieve in the resolution they had.--- JetMail 0.99beta22 * Origin: NeST WWW: http://www.nest.demon.co.uk/ (NeST 90:100/106) 33 08-11-9611:18Colin Fisher-McAllum Steve Sweet Re: Stuff 0 8 *Whilst under caution Colin said to Officer Steve :~) SS>> All eyes on 42BBS then, i'l look for anouncement if the FFF base, SS>> announcements for this stuff usually appears there first. CF> Now I have managed to fix into this area...Having prob's?. CF> I'll announce in here any new files Joe makes available. This echo CF> being much more suitable to the topic.Sounds good, very appropriate. CF> Danny hasn't logged on for six weeks so I don't know if he is still CF> supporting his scheme through 42BBS.Is he supporting his scheme at all anymore??.He has'nt replied to any querys for about that long as well, the troops aregetting pissed off, time for stern words from someone methinks. Regards from STEve & his nice warm cosey PAK'd MegaSTE.--- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: Steve's Warm Cosey Private Node :~) (Nest 90:102/142) 34 08-12-9622:11Harry Sideras Daron Brewood Re: Stuff 0 7 *In a message of 11 Aug 96 Harry Sideras (90:102/143) woffled to Daron Brewood: HS> Thing is an AVSERVER so set it up as such with the ENV variable shown HS> above and comment the /avignore line out.Harry you are a bloody marvel mate! Made the adjustments as you suggested andall my folders and stuff are working!!My thanks indeed.Daron - dbrewood@nest.demon.co.uk | dbrewood@cix.compulink.co.uk-+-- Sylph, n. An immaterial but visible being that inhabited the air when theair was an element and before it was fatally poluted by factory smoke, sewergas and similar prdoucts of civilization. [...] tDD, Bierce--- JetMail 0.99beta22 * Origin: NeST WWW: http://www.nest.demon.co.uk/ (NeST 90:100/106) 35 08-08-9620:39All Carl Hender Re: Lottery Companion 0 7 *In a message from Carl Hender to All... CH> I got a message from Mark Butler saying that The UK Lottery Companion CH> version 4 is getting very close for release. I believe this version CH> will also take advantage of the mid week lottery draws.I'm now Beta testing this sw and all seems to be working on my Falcon with noreal problems just a double scroll in windows instead of a single one whenclicking on the slide bar. Bye, /Carl/<< Atari Falcon030\605HD\HPDJ600<->486DX4\75\8Mb+CDROM >><< *carl@hender.dungeon.com* >><< http://www.dungeon.com/~hender/index.html >>--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl7 eta * Origin: Carls very own Node (90:102/205) 36 08-14-9616:59Daron Brewood Harry Sideras Re: Stuff 0 18 **Hi Daron*, on 12 Aug 96 you wrote: ...respect, brethren HS>> Have you got your #_ENV 's sorted out? DB> Yep:Can I mention a couple more that you don't seem to have - they may be useful#_ENV HYPFOLD=C:\GUIDES\ ; for STGuide#_ENV KOBOLD_PATH=E:\KOBOLD_2.5\KOBOLD_2.PRG ; for Kobold DB> #_ENV ESS_DPATH=E:\This Env variable changed with ESSCode v6.3 to:#_ENV ESS_DEFAULT_PATH=E:\Also added (for the STGuide help file) was:#_ENV ESSHELP=C:\GUIDES\ DB> #_ENV SHSHOW F:\UTILS\GRAPHIC\LOOKNSEE\LOOKNSEE.PRGI've got something for this too. I think I merged it from my Masterbrowseinstallation:#_ENV SHSHOW=E:\MBROWSE\CLIENT.PRGWhat is it? Any ideas? The Masterbrowse docs don't menton it... DB> #_ENV HOME=C:\HOME\Is that where you put your START.SET then as well as for all others that usethe HOME env var? I've got mine set as:#_ENV HOME=C:\AUTO\APPS\but tbh I'm not ensure what progs use this. I think START.SET needs to be inthe HOME directory, but it may automatically refer to the same dir thatSTART.APP is run from. Any ideas again? HS>> Thing is an AVSERVER so set it up as such with the ENV variable HS>> shown above and comment the /avignore line out. DB> Ah right, done that now.I've seen your other message - glad it did the biz for you HS>> If you do use Appline, uncomment /appline and Start will be appended HS>> before the Appline button-bar and will move along as Appline gets HS>> resized (I just set up Appline properly yesterday too). DB> Yep I do use Appline, but I don't want Start positioned near it.OIC. Fair enough. DB>>> /tosmultistart HS>> Do you really want this? It allows the same TOS to be started HS>> multiple times. DB> Ah ha, now removed.Not sure what difference it makes, but it doesn't sound like it's needed.Regards,Sid CeleryUK Association of Atari User Groups** Do you want Celery with that? **-= What do you mean I'm fired, I own the friggin place!! =---- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: Life? Don't talk to me about life... (90:102/143) 37 08-15-9622:41Harry Sideras Daron Brewood Re: Stuff 0 13 *In a message of 14 Aug 96 Harry Sideras (90:102/143) woffled to Daron Brewood:Bugger from the above (which was deleted), a few more changes to make then. Iwas now aware the ESScode ENV had changed though, serves me right foraccidently deleting my docs. HS> #_ENV SHSHOW=E:\MBROWSE\CLIENT.PRG HS> What is it? Any ideas? The Masterbrowse docs don't menton it...No ideas I'm afraid. DB>> #_ENV HOME=C:\HOME\ HS> Is that where you put your START.SET then as well as for all others HS> that use the HOME env var? I've got mine set as:Yep, decided to make things nice and tidy. HS> but tbh I'm not ensure what progs use this. I think START.SET needs to HS> be in the HOME directory, but it may automatically refer to the same HS> dir that START.APP is run from. Any ideas again?Start has to be in HOME, as that was what buggered me in the first place.Appline can also use that directory. HS> I've seen your other message - glad it did the biz for you YEp, just got to work out how on eartyh I managed to assign a name to onepartition but no to others. HS> Not sure what difference it makes, but it doesn't sound like it's HS> needed. Yep, and all looking good now.Daron - dbrewood@nest.demon.co.uk | dbrewood@cix.compulink.co.uk-+-"Just remember that the last laugh is on you..."--- JetMail 0.99beta22 * Origin: NeST WWW: http://www.nest.demon.co.uk/ (NeST 90:100/106) includehandling and postal charges, which would be at your expense. Of course, ifyou're passing this way this summer (southwest France, near Toulouse) you canpick these items up yourself --I'll throw in a free gastronomic lunch, DidotLineart, GFA Basi\ |<h 4 0"(t$,I'm interested in DB software, I'll look at any other "pro" typesoftware you may want to trade. All offers are welcome!--Papagaio come millo, periquito leva a fama. (proverbe brazilien)--En petit cheminee on fait grand feu, et en grande petit feu. (J. de LaVepre, _Proverbes communs_, 1498)--- JetMail 0.99beta21 [JetMail 0.99beta21] [JetMail 0.99beta21] * Origin: Walden Pond sur Tarn (NeST 90:800/1.18) 83 07-11-9613:08All Carl Hender FS: Jaguar Games 0 5 *Dragon The Bruce Lee Story: 8(inc p+p)Brutal Sports Football: 8(inc p+p) Bye, /Carl/<486DX4\75\8Mb+CDROM>><< *carl@hender.dungeon.com* :< http://www.dungeon.com/~hender/index.html >>--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl7 eta * Origin: Carls very own Node (90:102/205) 84 07-11-9613:12All Carl Hender FS: ST games and Hardware 0 9 */I'm Selling this lot for a friend/Software:4 quid:STOS The Games Creator (includes everything).3 quid:BloodwychBloodwych Data Disks #1Laser SquadDrakkhenBattle MasterChaos Strikes Back2 quid:De JavuZork IIFOFTSDISim CitySleeping Gods LieRock Star Ate My HamsterVindicatorsPhobiaBlasteroidsCastle MasterBooks:Compute's Technical Reference Guid. Atari ST: TOS. (offeres)Cables:An Atari ST video to scart lead. (offeres)Hardware:Syncro Express (Disk copier: requires ext floppy drive) (offeres).Competition Pro joystick (offeres).2400 miracom modem (boxed, with psu+manual) (offeres). +@XyU]@ #As@BI@Y@HZJ9:]\Q`,J@0'sPA #%Z  @@>C)SM['>=@WQ@V;@NPO1LGWR? 36>@3@5*@.N@(}6\TeRXLD@M &FTYc@12^D!7.,@-you are in the UK. Netmail me your address and I'll send you a cheque. Cheers, * Colin Polonowski NeST: 90:102/160 * * Croft Soft Software Fish: 777:200/0 * * Atari Authors Association Fido: 2:255/80 * * The Croft Soft HTML News Letter - Issue 3, Out Now!!!!! *---* Kivi (unregistered) 1.41 * To boldly go where no one has gone`@~@vte@zdmmbk@lp@sqihj@rgc@ub@wxo@}n3-9619:46Nicholas Flintham Roger Cain Re: Help! ppp problems! 0 5 *Hi Nicholas, on 11 Jul 96 you wrote: NF> I wish they would hurry up and install cable around here.. I heard NF> they were meant to be doing it here this year sometime.. they better NF> hurry up :)You may change your mind when they start! Tarmac cutters, pedestriandiversions, lumpy pavements, wilting trees and hedges!!!Roger--- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: Gatley Point (NeST 90:100/103) 43 07-10-9619:00all Max Denebian antmail 0 5 *Where the heck can I find the latest version of Antmail? I'm running version0.7.7 and I think 0.7.8 is out but I can't find th ng.Each time I try to download from Hensa's www pages I get a read errorin some stinking file... sigh... so If anyone knows the right web page or ftpsite to get it from I'd appreciate it. Does the author havea web page?--- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: Realm of the Alternate Eternities [503-649-7915] (NeST 90:304/2) 44 07-12-9617:14Louis Gatzen Mike De.Petris Re^2: This area 0 14 *Anybody can help to contact jekyll author ???In uno strano messaggio del 26 Oct 95 Louis Gatzen (90:500/211.62) scrisse aMike De.Petris in area 'Mailbox': LG> AREA [N.SUP.JEKYLL] >> Is there anybody still using Jekyll, any chanche to get the sources, is LG> LG> Hi Mike, LG> LG> I had installed Jekyll via midi to communicate with another ST. LG> But, to be honest, a diskswap is far more quicker and easier. LG> LG> A few years ago, I (as a point) was allowed by a sysop to search for LG> file`@@the Jekyll protocol, and it was LG> great. It was a pity that sysop left the Atari-scene. The other guys LG> are more carefull around here, and i do not blame them for that, LG> because there certainly will be some risk in it, to allow LG> (experienced?) users surfing on your hard-disk. LG> LG> We really did it, up- and download, chatting at the same time. LG> It worked. LG> LG> As registered user I never got any message about an update. LG> There was some message, the author went over to the Mac-system. LG> The author , Vincent Partington lives here in Holland. If you like, LG> I contact him about the source, because, as you, I believe this LG> programm should be supported. Latest version: 1.39b, dated 930530. LG> Bye, LG> Louis. LG> LG> --- JetMail 0.99beta21 LG> * Origin: ~ BBST BB +31 10-4840224 t is net t net ~ (90:500/211.62)Ciao, ** *Mike* ** www.interware.it/users/mike/ mike@interware.it--Y el sol brilla brilla brilla...--- JetMail 0.99beta21rigin: Atarian ST - TS! [+39-40-768412] (NeST 90:700/104) 45 07-14-9609:29Nicholas Flintham Steven Bagley Re: Help! ppp problems! 0 15 *"Ambassador Flintham," asked Steven. "Do you really want to know what's goingon down there right now?""Yes, absolutely," replied Nicholas.Steven moved forward, and whispered something. NF> I wish they would hurry up and install cable around here.. I heard NF> they were meant to be doing it here this year sometime.. they better NF> hurry up :)They've dug the road up now, and laid the cable just waiting details on how toget connected. NF> Well I single task but it seems to work better now.. on a Falcon it NF> supposedly works fine on an 8mhz st its a little too much for it NF> doing more than 2 clients at once.. this will be fixed though when NF> the new stik developments come to light :)Working under MagiC 4 in multi-tasking mode is a priorit  `` of my time like this. Only, popping into TOS tocheck NewsAgent works under TOS still, and to rund Timeworks. NF> hehe its a little bit more complex than that NF> The reorganised bits are of no use until other bits are completed.. NF> the plan at the moment is to first release a cslip version in the old NF> style with a few other fixes in it then later to release a version NF> which does slip/cslip/ppp then all the developers have a little bit NF> of breathing space to get everything right for the new versions.. I NF> cant really explain more until its all finalised and im told I can NF> tell more :) Hmm, so are they altering the calling protocol as well then?See you earlier,Steven InterNet: sbagley@cameo.co.uk FidoNET: 2:2501/101.12 ... NeST: 90:102/203Telemovie--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: The Tardis (90:102/203)`3Neil Capel Steven Bagley Re: STF fame ! 0 7 *"Ambassador Capel," asked Steven. "Do you really want to know what's going ondown there right now?""Yes, absolutely," replied Neil.Steven moved forward, and whispered something. NC> It's you, the Atari support for ZetNet ! Could I have some info NC> please ? Is there a free trial or something ? NC> NC> I have a Direct Debit-able account so whats all this about discounts NC> ? And configured Internet Access Pack ? Blimey. NC> NC> Thanks NC> NC> Neil.CIts you. The one who was on Teletext. Can I have your autograph please :)See you earlier,Steven InterNet: sbagley@cameo.co.uk FidoNET: 2:2501/101.12 ... NeST: 90:102/203Telemovie--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: The Tardis (90:102/203) 47 07-16-9603:13All Alan Martin Internet Access 0 5 *@ '@` ' &% %`$(# "" `! an Internet account with anInternet Provider.Can anyone suggest any providers which offer a good service and perhaps sometelephone/E-mail/address which I can use to get in contact?Any help is gratefully received, cheers.--- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: WALU minus the soft half ! (90:102/160@nest.ftn) 48 07-17-9618:12Mike Smith Simon Coward Re: AOL ISP ? 0 5 *Mike Smith wrote to Neil Capel:MS> NC> ZetNet [hey, Mr Henderson !]MS> MS> Looks like I might be joining you, my provider has just changed all Zetnet not only have a good Atari help line through David Henderson butalso the guys at Zetnet are very good and fast at sorting out anything attheir end and when they say they'll phone you back they do :-)regards Simonsimon.cow/< ? -=@@)*M;-9P7@J: E>A2 D 96 0`K@<(@8@4 O@.G2`B4 15d Internet Access 0 7 *Alan Martin wrote to All:AM> Can anyone suggest any providers which offer a good service and perhapssomeAM> telephone/E-mail/address which I can use to get in contact?AM> Any help is gratefully received, cheers.I suggest Zetnet as they are cheap, provide all you need including freeWEB space. We have our own Atari specific help line through David Hendersonwho is usually around here somewhere.....David...if not you can get him ondhend@zetnet.co.uk or I'm on simon.coward@zetnet.co.uk.I don't know Davids telephone number but mine is 01905 425976 if you wantto ask more. I'm in most of the day.regards Simon* Kivi 1.41a * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (NeST 90:102/166)@T`t@r`RdQcYe`sl ]Z[`q`pfkog l@\icj`h^@S n_WrVa`mX^ fnyone suggest any providers which offer a good service and perhaps AM> some telephone/E-mail/address which I can use to get in contact?Try Zetnet, they're among the cheapest around and offer dedicated Atarisupport, David Henderson is the man to speak to and should be round heresomewhere :-)Mar sin leibh an drasdaDomhnall --- ScanMail 0.69 * Origin: Point No 5, "Thusa tha meanbh " (90:102/166.5) 51 07-16-9610:44Jonathan Nott Roger Cain Re: AOL ISP ? 0 6 *Hi Jonathan, on 14 Jul 96 you wrote: DH>> Selotape up the tab and use it as DD. :) JN> JN> The DD drive doesn't detect the right hand tab at all, so on an ST JN> you can just wack it in and format DD onto it. As HDs are design to JN> hold higher deyv0``uvw@x yerial on an HD reqires higher write-current that that on a DD.You MAY be lucky but there have been a number of reports of data"disappearing" from an HD disk written on a DD mechanism.Caution!!Roger--- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: Gatley Point (NeST 90:100/103) 52 07-16-9610:47Steven Bagley Roger Cain Re: Help! ppp problems! 0 5 *Hi Steven, on 14 Jul 96 you wrote: SB> They've dug the road up now, and laid the cable just waiting details SB> on how to get connected.Do you know whether they are going to allow you to retain your old BT number?This has been legit. since around June but I'm not sure how many cablecompanies offer this. It is the only thing stopping me getting cable into thehouse ATM.Roger--- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: Gatley Point (NeST 90:100/103) @  @   P p 0 7 **Hi Jonathan*, on 14 Jul 96 you wrote to *David Henderson*: ...iranooohhhh DH>> Selotape up the tab and use it as DD. :) JN> The DD drive doesn't detect the right hand tab at allTrue enough. JN> ...so on an ST you can just wack it in and format DD onto it. As HDs JN> are design to hold higher density, you data is safer than it would be JN> on a DD!Not true. Basically, the surface is finer so a clunky DD drive may notread/write to it properly.Regards,Sid CeleryUK Association of Atari User Groups** Do you want Celery with that? **-= Your mortgage has not been assimilated! - Conservative Party Borg =---- IOS-Mail 0.91pl7 eta * Origin: 9 out of 10 men who try Camels prefer women. (90:102/143) 54 07-19-9619:38Domhnall Dods Simon Coward Re: Internet Access 0 5 *  "    !!   ^!h8MESSAGESDAT 7^!q000 NDX `x008 NDX `003 NDX `q004 NDX `005 NDX ` 009 NDX `032 NDX `011 NDX `(007 NDX `017 NDX `}C> often a SC> problem on the NET as some people have limited message sizes on SC> their SC> mailboxes so things like this are often choppped into bits. SC> I advise you not to mess with these things though as getting it SC> wrong, ie SC> getting the mesage halfwy through will cause a major mess. I know SC> because SC> I've had to have Zetnet clean out mu mailbox after some "odd" SC> messages. SC> SC> regards Simon SC> SC> SC> SC> --------------------------------------------- DB> -----42BBS 0 00-00-2800:00FFFNET Jonathan Nott Re: Internet 375 8  To: 2:25/56To: winston@worldonline.nlHi Winston, ...you said to Jonathan Nott:> My cousin has a Atari ST where he make his music proffesionally. > He was wondering if it's possible to e-mail/browse on the Atari,> so I wandered through all the sites but there's no info/software > how to do that! > But I myself don't know much about Atari's and my cousin only uses> his music programs.The main internet software for the Atari is called STiK. The STiK homepage is at http://www.unn.ac.uk/~cju920/From here you can download all the software you need to access the internet with your Atari. The documentation included with the programs will give you instructions on how to set it up.For more information read the Atari Internet FAQ at http://www.wal `ry.I'd love to, I think it'd only take 20 mins or so to see if there was abackground clash or not, and if not, 10 seconds to fix. ;)Sadly...Daron = Manchester.David = Ashford.And Daron minus David = too far... ;)Yours etc.David. 90:104/115@nest.ftn 2:440/7.2@fidonet.org dhend@zetnet.co.uk--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl6 eta * Origin: AIBS: Now available on dhend@zetnet.co.uk (90:104/115) 49 07-15-9607:17David Henderson[EM] Daron Brewood Re: CAB Help! 0 10 *In a message of 14 Jul 96 David Henderson[EM] (90:104/115) woffled to DaronBrewood: DH> But why not simply turn off pre-emptive whilst online, then turn it DH> back on when off? You don't have to reboot and there's hardly any DH> difference anyway. Especially if all you're going to do is use CAB.Yep, I did try this out over the weekend and I'm happt to say it did work,kept usoft.co.uk/anl/faq.htm--Jon---* Kivi 1.41a * Atari Net Locator ~ http://www.walusoft.co.uk/anl/ 0 00-00-2800:00FFFNET Jonathan Nott Re: Form posted from Mozi 483 4  To: 2:25/56To: mille@tripnet.seHi Mille, ...you said to Jonathan Nott:m> Atari Internet Acces Pack and all the STiK-related software form> download. Pictures of the GEM Internet Programs.Thank you for this information.BFN, Jon---* Kivi 1.41a * Atari Net Locator ~ http://www.walusoft.co.uk/anl/ 0 00-00-2800:00Simon Coward Jonathan Nott Re: MIME 360 4  To: 42:42/17.0@fffnetHi Simon, ...you said to Jonathan Nott:SC> I advise you not to mess with these things I never attach files to emails. I haven't tried to for ages.BFN, Jon---* Kivi 1.41a * "Bulges appeared in the fabric of space time." (42:42/0) 0 00-00-2800:00FFFNET Jonathan Nott Re: Form posted from Mozi 482 3  To: 2:25/56To: mille@tripnet.seThank you for registering as a user of the Atari Net Locator.---* Kivi 1.41a * Atari Net Locator ~ http://www.walusoft.co.uk/anl/ 51 07-15-9622:20Simon Coward Daron Brewood Re: CAB Help! 0 11 *In a message of 13 Jul 96 Simon Coward (90:102/166) woffled to Daron Brewood: SC> I wouldn't say it doesn't work at all as i use that setup and it's fine SC> most of the time. I get some odd crashes but it does the same under SC> TOS. I was online for over an hour this morning and it was perfect.Yep, got it working now. Flinny was right, turning off preemtive tasking didsort it out. Still times out on a lot of JPG's though, especially on theGillian Anderson pages. SC> Despite that I still like OASIS and wish the new vesrion worked on SC> Zetnet, I even pre registered which is a real downer. Most of all I SC> miss the address book as i hate typing addresses, it's too easy to get SC> it wrong. Miss the address book??? The Yellow Pages are still in there and better thanever! SC> I just want to get it working.You could always do what some others haev done, trusted Dave with theiraccount details, this always results in problwms biting the dust.Daron - dbrewood@nest.demon.co.uk | dbrewood@cix.compulink.co.uk-+-The reason behind the style of the new IBM logo is that this was the bestthey could achieve in the resolution they had.--- JetMail 1.00alpha * Origin: NeST Zone Coord's Eyrie [+44-161-429-9803 MO] (NeST 90:100/106) 52 07-15-9611:54Paul Baker David Henderson[EM] Re: Ideas for Net2net 0 5 *Ladies and Gentlemen, your appreciation please for Paul Baker and DavidHenderson[EM]: PB>>> anyone got any ideas for my NOS/Oasis mail/newsgroup converter? >> How about extending support to Antmail? PB> Antmail ?Stik's mailer.Yours etc.David. 90:104/115@nest.ftn 2:440/7.2@fidonet.org dhend@zetnet.co.uk--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl6 eta * Origin: AIBS: Now available on dhend@zetnet.co.uk (90:104/115) 53 07-16-9615:17All Liam Collins NOS 0 5 * Hello, *All* Errrmm...HELP! Anyone know how to set up NOS? I've got it half workingand I managed to collect some news, but I'm not sure what goes where inthe STARTUP.NOS file, particularly the server addresses, which is causingproblems. /|\llTheBest ... */Liam/**If life is but a dream where are the bicycling Elephants?--- ScanMail 0.89c1 * Origin: Liams point at The Tavern BBS (0181-445-6514) (90:102/140.23) 47 07-14-968:52:All Derryck Croker Cheshunt Computer Club 0 4 !*The next meeting of the Cheshunt Computer Club will be held on the *24th July* 1900-2200 in the Garden Room, Wolsey Hall, Windmill Lane, Cheshunt. Cheshunt is 2 miles from J25 of the M25 in Herts.--- Mr Happy V1.02 AutoNote [JetMail 0.99beta21] * Origin: ...in back from hols mood.. (Nest 90:102/140.24) 48 07-13-965:04:All Keith Dunn Coventry Atari Meet (UK) 0 11 !* CAUC (Coventry Atari User Club) Just a reminder about the time and date of the very first meeting of the Coventry Atari User Club. So if you are looking for a local club supporting your machine, why not drop in?. When: Saturday 20th July 1996. Where: The Old Clarence pub. (on the corner of Hearsall Common, on Earlsdon Ave North, opposite the entrance to Broomfield Rd) in Coventry. 12 o'clock mid-day onwards in the bar area. [I'll be the guy in the Star Trek T-Shirt ;-)) ] As you will no doubt have guessed, this first meeting will be more of an informal get-together than a meeting. It's hoped than plenty of you will come along and show your support. For more information, give me a call on (01203) 715921, netmail or Email me... * | /EEFY and his meagre  Mega ST/Warp diskmag Coventry, UK * * |< TurboNet: 100:1011/19.11 * * | \ Fidonet: 2:2500/706.11 NeST: 90:102/146.11 * * AtariNet: 51:502/103.11 Internet:kdunn@allatsea.demon.co.uk * --- Mr Happy V1.02 AutoNote [IOS-Mail 0.91pl6 eta] * Origin: Praxis - Don't touch that !, uh oh! (90:102/146.11) 49 07-16-9615:59All Paul Leonard SysTem BBS 0 4 !*Hiya All,My *new* bbs will be running for 3 days 24hrs to let people try it outand report any errors.So go on TRY THE SYSTEM BBS01501 825756FishNet, AtariNet, NeST, InternetPaul Leonard SysOp--- JetMail 0.99beta21 * Origin: ~42BBS~ Home of the Falcon FacTT File (NeST 90:102/166) 50 07-16-9621:55All Roy Goring New email 0 5 !*Hi All,Please note my new email address below :-)Yes I've now swithed to Zetnet now they have cancelled their joining fee ifyou move from another ISP, 7.50 a month :-)Yours Royrgoring@zetnet.co.uk or rgoring if you're on CixJoin Wessex Atari Group now on 42BBS 01256-895106--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl8 eta * Origin: There's no Point like a new Point, 14 on 42BBS :-) (90:102/166.14) 51 07-15-9622:25Jonathan Nott Daron Brewood Re: NeST Internet User li 0 5 !*In a message of 14 Jul 96 Jonathan Nott (90:102/166) woffled to Daron Brewood: JN> I don't think the conqueror.co.uk mailserver is online anymore! Frank JN> is also:Thanks for all the above Jon, I really do wish people would let me know whenthings change.Daron - dbrewood@nest.demon.co.uk | dbrewood@cix.compulink.co.uk-+-Red haired lasses know how to do it.--- JetMail 1.00alpha * Origin: NeST Zone Coord's Eyrie [+44-161-429-9803 MO] (NeST 90:100/106) 52 07-15-9622:26Chris Good Daron Brewood Re: NeST Internet User li 0 4 !*In a message of 14 Jul 96 Chris Good (90:102/166.3) woffled to Daron Brewood: CG> Eh! Where's me then?You only had to ask Chris.Daron - dbrewood@nest.demon.co.uk | dbrewood@cix.compulink.co.uk-+-Does bouncing count? - David Eddings.--- JetMail 1.00alpha * Origin: NeST Zone Coord's Eyrie [+44-161-429-9803 MO] (NeST 90:100/106) 53 07-16-9620:10Jonathan Nott Harry Sideras Re: NeST Internet User li 0 6 !**Hi Jonathan*, on 14 Jul 96 you wrote to *Daron Brewood*: ...iranooohhhh DB>> Wright, Dale Dale.Wright@adlib.conqueror.co.uk JN> JN> Again, I'm sure conqueror.co.uk is offline.. JN> Dale says in his sig that he no longer had this gateway.He didn't have any until this weekend. However, he is nowdale1@cix.compulink.co.uk !!Regards,Sid CeleryUK Association of Atari User Groups** Do you want Celery with that? **-= If it works first time then it's gotta be broke somewhere! =---- IOS-Mail 0.91pl7 eta * Origin: How come wrong numbers are never busy? (90:102/143)PHHXl$>>>Gordon.>>>* Kivi (unregistered) 1.16 * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 [JetMail 0.99beta9] # Origin: All At Sea, +44 (0)1203 601448 24Hrs (100:1011/19) * Origin: Gated from N.ST.FORMAT at (777:400/0@fishnet.ftn) 42 06-14-9617:11Harry Sideras Derryck Croker Atari Show 0 5 E*This message from Harry to Andy came in on a wing and a prayer...Hi Harry! HS> Daron did it the other way around the other year, so I hear...I hope that the jail sentence wasn't too onerous then...Speak to 'ya later!** End of Derryck's Dribbles ~{:~)-= If you think this was rubbish then you ain't read many of my mails!--- JetMail 0.99beta21 [JetMail 0.99beta9] # Origin: Derryck's Point at the Tavern (Nest 90:102/140.24) * Origin: Gated from N.ST.FORMAT at (777:400/0@fishnet.ftn):@&`}.@ `47`f[h@_i`% @!^NSQ%GEg@`@<@=,ba4,BZY@`!Zdgilmor@@KJkm@{@D@C@|}B ?5z`h/@@ @` `@1 @ b`>tc$"zx4@s I@Ay@ wx@uv@@d\92i @)` @*  .@q@rFNv<IuYnpyUeW8@?;8@'+ @ `` \@ME/@p-@jF@L6M@ 6K1)D(> is on 01225 822511 PG> PG> Cheers for that Mark! I'll have a look in Southampton this PG> month as a final measure before subscribing!No problem! (with the phone numbers - don't know about finding STF!)[KIVI 1.41] PG> Oh, that's very interesting... I haven't had any problems with PG> it myself /yet/ but I will take the relevant precautions anyway PG> (Sorry for the long words ;-) ) Isn't it a bummer trying to put PG> smilies in Brackets!?And at the end of lines! I always seem end up with a smiley on it's own line:-)[snip] PG> I know what you mean, The Tavern (my /local/ BBS) is in London. PG> Now coming from Southampton, that will get a little pricey! I'm PG> on a cable phone, so it shouldn't be as bad as BT ;-) Time will PG> tell......I'm on cable too! At least there's no 5p miniumum call charge, and the rates/are/ lower anyway. I subscribe to all the cable TV channels as well, sothere's no line rental to pay - that's another 8 a month saved -sorry -redistributed to m_^%@))`*]`h@j`R@25`P8OL@ll==@FEDnB!m;9 a>@;@ot@6`:`S/.0- +"p t\`cefgZYVK@GAA@p@I@Ju's why I became a point, prepacked messages, less than a minute online tocollect a 40k message packet.Your phone bill really will halve (at least) if you become a Point. If youwant more info about Pointing, ask your Sysop.BTW You might have already received this msg - I've had prblems sendingmessages to Nest echoes, so I've re-sent all the messages that should havesent again! :-) PG> [ __ ] _ _ _ _ PG> [ __]/ \ [ | ][ ]_ PG> [__] [_^_][___][___] >>> email: PGodden@mettav.demon.co.uk PG> [==================] Big Sig :-)Cheers Mark--John Major; a bad excuse for a bad excuse!--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl7 eta [JetMail 0.99beta9] # Origin: *Mark's Poixyzz@{{|}`~ `@|at (777:400/0@fishnet.ftn) 45 06-19-9619:42All Steve Sweet ST-Format 0 11 E*Yo! All Dude!I suggest that the next time someone has a complaint about the content of themagazine in this so called support echo, that is not then answered by theappointed moderator, that we move to close the base. Its of no use if the customers (sic) of the base are'nt getting the answers tothe questions they are asking.To Mr ST-Format moderator,I'm sure that i represent a large number of the peop's in this base, and a fewmore that are'nt when i pose this question.When can we expect to see a return on our very large investment in yourcompany, either in the form of some more pages with readable matter or viathe cover disk in the form of software that didnt come through a file echo amonth ago. ??. Regards from STEve & his nice warm coseyp psage was written by Taffy's Random Bullshit Generator. **-= Yes as a matter of fact i did have something interesting to do, but by the time i'd finished talking to you i'd forgoten what it was.--- JetMail 0.99beta21 [JetMail 0.99beta9] # Origin: Watch out for the 2 foot high smiley. (Nest 90:102/142) * Origin: Gated from N.ST.FORMAT at (777:400/0@fishnet.ftn) 46 06-19-9622:41Domhnall Dods Keith Dunn Re: Where's ST Format??? 0 6 E*Domhnall Dods left this missive for Phill Hills ... Hi Domhnall............ PH>> Still can't find a copy round here (Leicester) :-( DD> DD> Hmmm, I'm just back from Holiday and even found them in wee shops in DD> the wilds of County Donegal in the Irish Republic.....lLeicester DD> must have offended sosmeone :-)Or vice versa ?... ;-)LLAP........................... Ke IOS-Mail 0.91pl6 eta [JetMail 0.99beta9] # Origin: Praxis - Don't touch that !, uh oh! (90:102/146.11) * Origin: Gated from N.ST.FORMAT at (777:400/0@fishnet.ftn) 47 06-25-9602:29Steve Sweet Mark Dyas ST-Format 0 13 E*Steve Sweet previously scribbled to All ... SS> Yo! All Dude!Yo! Steve, man! SS> I suggest that the next time someone has a complaint about the SS> content of the magazine in this so called support echo, that is SS> not then answered by the appointed moderator, that we move to SS> close the base. SS> Its of no use if the customers (sic) of the base are'nt getting SS> the answers to the questions they are asking. SS> To Mr ST-Format moderator,Who is the moderator? SS> I'm sure that i represent a large number of the peop's in thisYes. SS> base, and a few more that are'nt when i pose this question.About 14,378 a `0re! There was a 'quickie' in issue 84complaining about *customers* complaining about the page count in STF; if itwasn't for him it would have been 14379 ;-))) SS> When can we expect to see a return on our very large investment SS> in your company, either in the form of some more pages with SS> readable matter or via the cover disk in the form of software SS> that didnt come through a file echo a month ago. ??.Have you noticed that it's gone all quiet in 'ere since you posted thismessage - maybe we're all making a point - no messages - no base ;-)I was going to netmail this to you, but I thought *all* should see.Cheers Mark--Say cheese - fromaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaage--- IOS-Mail 0.91pl7 eta [JetMail 0.99beta9] # Origin: *Mark's Pointing* from *All At Sea* (90:102/146.15) * Origin: Gated from N.ST.FORMAT at (777:400/0@fishnet.ftn) 48 06-25-9619:27Mark Dyas Paul Godden Where's ST Format??? 0 24 E* `` P s 01225 822510, and customer servicesMD> MD>> is on 01225 822511MD> PG>MD> PG> Cheers for that Mark! I'll have a look in Southampton thisMD> PG> month as a final measure before subscribing!MD> MD> No problem! (with the phone numbers - don't know about finding STF!)Well it looks as though I'll have to subscribe... I've had a look in thatplace suggested by Mark, but nothing.... Ho Hum...MD> PG> I know what you mean, The Tavern (my /local/ BBS) is in London.MD> PG> Now coming from Southampton, that will get a little pricey! I'mMD> PG> on a cable phone, so it shouldn't be as bad as BT ;-) Time willMD> PG> tell......MD> MD> I'm on cable too! At least there's no 5p miniumum call charge, and theMD> ratesYeah!MD> /are/ lower anyway. I subscribe to all the cable TV channels as well, soMD> there's no line rental to pay - that's another 8 a month saved -sorry -MD> redistributed to modem use :-)Those pennies sure add up after a while though, don @ P 0   p vantage of the Mercury lines!MD> Oh, and I get all the /really/ useful star service for free, and freeMD> offpeakMD> cable->cable calls (saves a whopping great 1.50 a month! :-), betterknownMD> as half a modem hour! ).Thats where I benefit a bit. Firstly my cousin is on a cable phone, as is a local BBS! So i have some money. Nothing compared to the rest, of course :-(MD> I suppose you could always wait for the weekend to dial up; but can youMD> waitMD> *THAT* long??? I doubt it! I can't :-)Waiting a whole week is not an option... MD> That's why I became a point, prepacked messages, less than a minute onlineMD> toMD> collect a 40k message packet.MD> Your phone bill really will halve (at least) if you become a Point. If youMD> want more info about Pointing, ask your Sysop.40K? Thats pretty cool! My last QWK packet was about 220K! I may just askmy Sysop about it... Does it take much time setting up etc.?MDp`P  sendingMD> messages to Nest echoes, so I've re-sent all the messages that should haveMD> sent again! :-)Nope. Only received one... Sorry for taking ages to answer my mail butI've been trying to sort out my internet account! What a pain in the assthats turning out to be. See N.ST.COMMS if you think you might be able to help! (something to do with ppp)Cheers an' all that... ____[ __ ] _ _ _ _[ __]/ \ [ | ][ ]_[__] [_^_][___][___] >>> email: PGodden@mettav.demon.co.uk[==================] * Kivi (unregistered) 1.41 * --- JetMail 0.99beta21 [JetMail 0.99beta9] # Origin: THE TAVERN 44-(0)181-445-6514 24 HOURS (NeST 90:102/140) * Origin: Gated from N.ST.FORMAT at (777:400/0@fishnet.ftn) 49 06-25-9618:16Mark Dyas Steve Sweet Re: ST-Format 0 10 E*pfficer Steve :~) SS>> To Mr ST-Format moderator, MD> Who is the moderator?It /was/ mr. tech editor i beleive. SS>> I'm sure that i represent a large number of the peop's in this MD> Yes.Why thank you kind sir. MD> Have you noticed that it's gone all quiet in 'ere since you posted MD> this message Not suprising, i seem to have that effect on bases. 8~)) MD> - maybe we're all making a point - no messages - no base MD> ;-)So i wonder if Format will take note of the flavour of the message and actaccordingly. MD> I was going to netmail this to you, but I thought *all* should see.Bloody right, perhaps *all* should voice their opinions as well, either toback us up or shut us up, if i'm wrong i'l sit in the midle with the conehead on. Regards from STEve & his nice warm cosey PAK'd MegaSTE.--- JetMail 0.99beta21 [JetMail 0.99beta9] # Origin: Watch out for the 2 foot high smiley. (Nest 90:102/142) * Origin: Gated from N.ST.FORMAT at (777:400/0@fis `P0 50 06-26-9604:44Paul Godden Mark Dyas Where's ST Format??? 0 23 E*Paul Godden previously scribbled to Mark Dyas ... PG> Well it looks as though I'll have to subscribe... I've had a PG> look in that place suggested by Mark, but nothing.... Ho PG> Hum...Does that mean that new subs are still available? MD>> PG> I know what you mean, The Tavern (my /local/ BBS) is in MD>> London. PG> Now coming from Southampton, that will get a little MD>> pricey! I'm PG> on a cable phone, so it shouldn't be as bad as MD>> BT ;-) Time will PG> tell...... MD>> MD>> I'm on cable too! At least there's no 5p miniumum call charge, MD>> and the rates PG> PG> Yeah! PG>Got a letter from the cable people: says they're committed to beating BT onprice including the F&F thing and other /cut/ price scheme. The duck & pigadvert is p"'5BnpGG!    !!ch than me (other than himself).. We've been friends since we were knee high and he lives only two streets from me... That answers your first question! 2. His Falcon has a new neighbour.. a 2600 pc now takes up the bulk of his desk and F030 is slowly gathering dust. 3. Email address: At home: requiem@village.netkonect.co.uk At work: 70004.2320@compuserve.com Yes he now works for the dredded Compuserve. 4. Update 10 is not really doing a lot. Nor is the FOG CD - I'm waiting to buy the drive off him that the CD is contents are sitting on. If you have any messages for him.. Tell me - I see him all the time! BFN, Jon oint - the messages are already packed before you request them and nologon/logoff time.....-lh0- ` 42BBS.NDXE!@!,-lh5-` 42BBS.MSGk|mF; UIQUZE1;sT#H0$`2FDӸɜ?q?yc8GYJCgB15<1JU[GWϐ^ZC!ke;qW'e05KPAEhJV Q9݄!JQ/2jlѣ@1-of?,yv'-BidI#H(1݈m]Q%)%lV?Z3 |{Lsz- ʼn6 ͏_/MQv eZX%\:P$h{$DA&#?Sg6;*)Rm{L]IveKv]Ɯ?z'əjiJ{՛uMեV(mK)jԑy*Zh[)0Q>OwJu"IP53f#'+}C`w,id;X9}S0 @(ͶKZM(vV $IK>sKr_K3*7PeZzˡhiy1lBd{tv.:"W+.CNӾ*Wv D݁𞭅H0+ ڵ>-z7]ZJ^xK;`@9@ " ߏӀc>s|n7{p~b#̘Bj+k%ier)n+p%^d|c`aX2]<$ rx6fM4hs sG5uΜ%TAn 77879D0wHi Rich, Here are your questions... I'll need these back by the end of the month, btw! Just post the completed masterpiece back in this area.... (starts here ;)) When did you get your first Atari computer? How did you get involved with the production of Maggie? What is the one thing that you like most about the Atari Falcon? Which Atari show/event do you remember stands out most in your mind? What are your current favorite demo effects? How did you get into computer comms? Words responses round.... please comment on the following..... The Olympic games.... Charlie Sheen.... The Isle of Whight's independance movement... Mad Cows.... What would be the ultimate Atari hardware upgrade, in your opinion? (ends here ;)) BFN, Jonttp://www.unn.ac.uk/~cju920/ JC> The latest version of CAB, STiK, the OVL file, AntMail, finger,JC> IRC etc areJC> all on there.It has been linked to in ANL July :)BFN, Jon---* Kivi 1.41a * ANL Message Echo on 42BBS - Moderate'BBbdž'?{{kMYzA{/Z|s )N&H`ݖ#.7s34=-o!r8[0$'pzib!4N2.^#~sBJ}庹h\Z&8If3к3OVs0$@`m6 \^&I~U"_}[,#7> _G1ag{5Q1Y9J"b)uJ+gڴ \mmJ]59AI"fk+vlfNDa'[][V|+|&¡*]T],zyjMEY%֗&+4wܢTa1^G5 Zc8)eU(jȇ [&O]\566&3G;7L_KT]=]$h*ʪ}n>αp^2C>r%.^7eԤLIJHtZ G}u8tuva~#H{"}t.~*[V! xjÿc?jS6[!A]3OWsy6?Im _ #y8_djxn3,_sĄs!UFKQzXWoq4!8L778Өm?k-D9*]b)U r8RK/yyuŜǚZuŁXiMiu}kӽ%wF[yаېzpgk~KF::H"5iwKrFLa;OZ# 'Pgz{klv|ſ,~5IERy Irp '#)A@pA7.s@(TLl4Ua5]Tqr_|`yOfե}hSRm +#Jis,E1p>ѳ^2Q >Y/kت2<.vuh0 :/׸c>9G L}3:*^P<^d=׊[S)a0e/Z`UuF)Éd=VɸɈ)ռ\bl9x1ʧX$`A[p]GH-u]ůQ1Tђ\tٞ򀘯c:Ք|zA$بWIz:\wZE0|2WT?~ !rXq '5A&q>{"w^9W 4Q=}ݖV|sdv-_ܕ}{{6,~ͅ[ni; lzgƻ٣VŠ4)<(E4kge2\TH.=17l2tT @\넽IF7hdLؼ 1]Ƀ (6w)Yn$K [M]=| eR$y6Ӂ'E7[pIɳ|޷.-9˭#q]d?_&QpEst#ST ݺ7$Kb0ɪupSڌI%CYm!3yl$wc'-&#pg0"042BBS 32 00-00-2800:00All Jonathan Nott Last minute! 00000004  Hi Boys,The subject matter for OnlinePhile now covers... Joe Connor's new InterActive WWW site N.SUP.ASSI Titan's Web site A bit on ANL I could do with a couple of more BBS-type things ;)Any ideas, folks?BFN, Jon---* Kivi 1.41a * "Bulges appeared in the fabric of space time." (42:42/0) 8 00-00-2800:00Richard Spowart Jonathan Nott Interview 00000008  Hi Rich,Here are your questions...I'll need these back by the end of the month, btw!Just post the completed masterpiece back in this area....(starts here ;))When did you get your first Atari computer?How did you get involved with the production!@!p0Px !<Tlx  &,4>DJZrz !! 3 00-00-2800:00Colin Polonowski Jonathan Nott Re: Is There Anybody The 418 4  Hi C, ...you said to Jonathan Nott:CP> Yes, Yes, Yes, I've finished. I am now free until I go to Uni inCP> September.CP> I s'pose I'd better get some more games written now!Me too... But I'm going back to do A-levels, not Uni :)BFN, Jon---* Kivi 1.41a * Skynet on 42BBS 3 00-00-2800:00Domhnall Dods Jonathan Nott Re: is there anybody ther 413 3  Yo D, ...you said to Jonathan Nott:DD> DOn't knock it...especially if they're paying :-)))))I'm back now... It wasn't /th of Maggie?What is the one thing that you like most about the Atari Falcon?Which Atari show/event do you remember stands out most in your mind?What are your current favorite demo effects?How did you get into computer comms?Words responses round.... please comment on the following.....The Olympic games....Charlie Sheen....The Isle of Whight's independance movement...Mad Cows....What would be the ultimate Atari hardware upgrade, in your opinion?(ends here ;))BFN, Jon---* Kivi 1.41a * "People of Earth, your attention please." (42:42/0)S.INTERNET, dyt??It's fun to moderate ;-)BFN, Jon---* Kivi 1.41a * The best Web site in the world? Probably not. ~ ANL 17 00-00-2800:00Domhnall Dods Jonathan Nott Re: Monitors for sale 79 3  Hi D, ...you said to all:DD> Philips CM8833 RGB monitor for sale. Both are in excellentWould you sell the Phillips for 50??BFN, Jon---* Kivi 1.41a * Skimming the networks from 42BBS (90:102/166) 17 00-00-2800:00All Jonathan Nott FS: 14,400 Modem 00000004  Alright people, hear this:TKR IM-144VF+ Data only 14,400bps modemSupports v.42/v.42bis error checking/compressionVGC ... Also included:ManualPower Supply<>40cm male/male 25-pin serial cableMake me an offer...BFN, Jon---* Kivi 1.41a * Skimming the networks from 42BBS (90:102/166) 21 00-00-2800:00Max Denebian Jonathan Nott Re: antmail 43 4  Hi there, ...you said to all:MD> Where the heck can I find the latest version of Antmail?The latest version can be downloaded from the STiK stuff page at:http://www.unn.ac.uk/~cju920/BFN, Jon---* Kivi 1.41a * "I could never get the hang of Thursdays." (42:42/0) 0 00-00-2800:00Harry Sideras Jonathan Nott Re: AOL ISP ? 53 5  To: 90:102/143.0@nestcc: Roger Cain on 90:100/103.0@nestHi Harry/Roger, ...you both said to Jonathan Nott in N.S.C.I. about Re: AOL ISP ?:HS> Not true. Basically, the surface is finer so a clunky DD driveHS> may notHS> read/write to it properly.Ok, I stand corrected...BUT, you could have an excellent external drive that is very careful with your disks, like I have ;-)BFN, Jon---* Kivi 1.41a * "Warning: NetMail causes fatal diseases" (90:102/166) 212 00-00-2800:00Martin Stacey Jonathan Nott Re: WEB page update 50 9  Hi Martin, ...you said to Jonathan Nott:MS> That does not follow Jonathan because what you are then asking isMS> that ColinMS> pass on your pages at his expense.Er?Hang on... FFFnet is a local network exclusive to 42BBS users,points/nodes whatever, so no FFFnet mail never leaves Colin's system.When I'm a point (and as you /are/), I upload the attached file to Colin, and then you download it. In between, it just hangs around on Colin's hard drive. I don't see how this costs Colin anything ;-) Correct me if I'm wrong.MS> No, you do not know what the relative path will be, you cannotMS> assume it willMS> be ../ as that is only tru as long as the anl pages remain inMS> /anl relativeMS> to the root directory.How about I just leave it as http://www.walusoft.co.uk/ and leave you to change it when needed...BFN, Jon---* Kivi 1.41a * Skimming the networks from 42BBS (90:102/166) 8 00-00-2800:00Colin Fisher-McAllum Jonathan Nott FFFnet 00000007  Hi Colin,Here's what I've said to Martin..........I was saying that when I'm a point I should fattach the ANL archive to him on 42:42/2.......MS>> That does not follow Jonathan because what you are then asking isMS>> that ColinMS>> pass on your pages at his expense.JN> Er?JN> Hang on... FFFnet is a local network exclusive to 42BBS JN> users,points/nodes whatever, so no FFFnet mail never leaves Colin's JN> system.JN> When I'm a point (and as you /are/), I upload the attached file to JN> Colin, and then you download it. In between, it just hangs around on JN> Colin's hard drive. I don't see how this costs Colin anything ;-) JN> Correct me if I'm wrong.This is right, yeah?BFN, Jon---* Kivi 1.41a * Jon<->Colin ~ Have a banana? ~ SYSOP 3 00-00-2800:00All Jonathan Nott Re: My OP 407 6  Hi All, ...Colin said to All:JN>> general anesthetic et al....After I woke up they gave me a tuna and salad sandwich... That didn't stay down long ;-)CF> I chatted with Jon today and I am pleased to say that he has beenCF> a braveCF> little slodier :-)Indeed... But my war wounds mean I look just like that good old smiley .-) (yes, my left eye is closed).CF> He's feeling saw and it's a strain for him to look at the screen,CF> so don'tCF> expect any replies from him for a day or two.That was then, this is NOWBFN, Jon---* Kivi 1.41a * "I could never get the hang of Thursdays." (42:42/0) 3 00-00-2800:00Mike Kerslake Jonathan Nott Re: New Atari Magazine 394 6  Hi Mike, ...you said to All:MK> longer! But my heartfelt thanks to all that have been soMK> supportive. Once its going, ask someone who is a private NeST node to suggest a NeST echo - Atari World and STF had one!As many NeST users will be reading the mag, you won't get many nodes opposing N.SUP.TTIAO (TTIAO is the mag's title abbrv'd, BTW!)MK> 'They Think It's All Over!'A good title!MK> I'm a hard-headed person generally, and well used to working withMK> sod-all MK> resources,What software will it be produced with, BTW?BFN, Jon---* Kivi 1.41a * "Deep Thought paused for a moment's reflection." (42:42/0) 7 00-00-2800:00Roy Goring Jonathan Nott Re: New email 361 3  Hi Roy, ...you said to All in 42_LOCAL:RG> rgoring@zetnet.co.ukHas been changed in /anl/email.htmBFN, Jon---* Kivi 1.41a * The day of moderation is upon us ~ ANL 3 00-00-2800:00Simon Coward Jonathan Nott Re: Your mates are in tro 474 4  Hi Si, ...you said to Benson:SC> Hey Roy, Liz is writing to cats now as well :-)Nonsense is no worse than when you get the back end of it...I think I understand though ;-)Our neighbour's cat is a problem too..BFN, Jon---* Kivi 1.41a * "Bulges appeared in the fabric of space time." (42:42/0) 3 00-00-2800:00Colin Fisher-McAllum Jonathan Nott Re: Playing Catch-up 406 4  Hi Colin, ...you said to Jonathan Nott:CF> You are well out of date. Joes NeST address is 90:102/168ooops, I forgot Joe was a Pvt node on NeST ;-(Shows how long it is since I've d/l'd a nodelist!BFN, Jon---* Kivi 1.41a * "That's debatable, but I'll believe you." (42:42/0) 3 00-00-2800:00Kevin Beardsworth Jonathan Nott Re: OP 402 3  Hi Kev, ...you said to Jonathan Nott:KB> JN> Wish me luck ;-)KB> KB> Ok :) good luck.Thanks!I'm pleased that it's all healing up quickly..BFN, Jon---* Kivi 1.41a * "I could never get the hang of Thursdays." (42:42/0) 9 00-00-2800:00All Jonathan Nott WATCH YOUR BACKS 00000004  Hi All,The moderator is here!You all know (!) that I've had to get a new USR 144 as my old one didn't like colin's new one, yeah?Well, now I've got to sell the old one.. BUT it won't work with 42BBS.. There may however be some other reason you want a modem?Just in case.BFN, Jon---* Kivi 1.41a * "Makes you wanna say Horlicks!" (42:42/0) 8 00-00-2800:00Colin Fisher-McAllum Jonathan Nott Re: SVGA > 42_MART 2 6  Hi Colin, ...you said to All:CF> Let's kick this area off with an ad for my SVGA monitor.CF> CF> 14" Samsung SyncMaster 3 - 80If only I could use it with the E!I've offered Domhnall 50 for his CM8833Rich is determined to get the FOG CD done, so the HD could be a longer wait!I'll buy the monitor in the mean time...Hopefully selling the old modem and a few other non-computer items should make up the 120 I would've spent on both the USR and monitor!BFN, Jon---* Kivi 1.41a * "That's debatable, but I'll believe you." (42:42/0) 7 00-00-2800:00Alasdair Goold Jonathan Nott Re: News 45 3  Hi Al, ...you said to Jonathan Nott:AG> He'll tell you himself if I'm wrong, but the new site isAG> AG> http://www.compulink.co.uk/~inactive/welcome.htmGot itBFN, Jon---* Kivi 1.41a * "Is this really the interior of a flying saucer?" 7 00-00-2800:00Roy Goring Jonathan Nott Re: Ideas 46 4  Hi Roy, ...you said to Jonathan Nott:RG> Haven't been ablt to visit yet, Demon is playing up again, shouldRG> be moving toRG> Zetnet today :-)Is it today yet?RG> BIN IT :-)Binned.BFN, Jon---* Kivi 1.41a * "It's a bit of squalid isn't it?" (42:42/0) 0 00-00-2800:00FFFNET Jonathan Nott Re: shows 466 5  To: 2:25/56To: frank@support.tachyon.co.ukHi Frank, ...you said to Jonathan Nott:f> have now been set at =A33.00 for adults and =A31.00 for children =f> under 12 (if accompanied by an adult).Ooops, you've got character codes instead of 's. Some people might think it acutally costs 33 to get in!f> 2. ST FORMAT Magazine.Are you guys still going?BTW, Did you get my other mail about the Web award OK?BFN, Jon---* Kivi 1.41a * Atari Net Locator ~ http://www.walusoft.co.uk/anl/ 8 00-00-2800:00Brian Stanton Jonathan Nott Re: Modem/Titan 467 3  Hi Brian,Is it OK to chat in here rather than email - it'll save Colin money ;-) ...you said to Jonathan Nott in NetMail:b> My 38.8K is on its way so timing perfect.Got it yet???BFN, Jon---* Kivi 1.41a * Skynet on 42BBS (FFFnet 42:42/0) 0 00-00-2800:00FFFNET Jonathan Nott Re: Form posted from Mozi 477 3  To: toshioki@NetLaputa.or.jpHello Toshioki Matsumura,Thank you for registering as a user of the Atari Net Locator.---* Kivi 1.41a * "I could never get the hang of Thursdays." (42:42/0) 7 00-00-2800:00All Jonathan Nott Japanese User 477 8  Hi All,The following was received from our first Japanese registeree....t> This message was originally addressed to Jonathan Test ont> 2:252/502.0@fidonet.org and was re-addressed byt> 2:252/502@fidonet.orgt> t> FROM: toshioki@NetLaputa.or.jp (Toshioki Matsumura)t> Organization: Billiken Electric-Work Studiot> Reply Index No: 6559t> t> ANLRegister=Toshioki Matsumurat> EmailAdr=toshioki@NetLaputa.or.jpt> Computer=Atari STt> IAP=NetLaputat> Opinion=75%t> Where=ST FORMATt> t> --- Net2Net (3.19)t> * Origin: 42BBS fffnet<->demon Gateway (2:25/56.0)Do they get STF in Japan???Thank you for reading this trivial nonsense waste of space production - so maybe you were a little interested???BFN, Jon---* Kivi 1.41a * The best Web site in the world? Probably not. ~ ANL 212 00-00-2800:00Nicholas Flintham Jonathan Nott Re: Cab.Ovl 483 12  Hi Flinny,I emailed Dan Ackerman and he said to ask you about this. here's the message....DA> FROM: ackerman.29@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dan Ackerman)DA> On Fri, 12 Jul 96 18:01:08 jon@fffnet.demon.co.uk (J wrote: JN>> Hi Dan,JN>>JN>> I reported this bug to Alex Clauss, but he said to mention it toJN>> you as he think's it's almost certainly a problem with CAB.OVL...JN>>JN>> Users of my Web site (http://www.walusoft.co.uk/anl/) have foundJN>> it impossible to post my forms from CAB..JN>>JN>> The code I use is as follows...JN>>JN>> JN>>JN>> ....form elements in here...JN>>JN>> JN>>JN>> As I don't use CAB myself for online surfing, I can't investigate JN>> :(JN>>JN>> I hope this bug report is useful - Or maybe you can tell me howJN>> to JN>> adapt my HTML so the forms work OK from CAB?DA>DA> I'm not certain if this works properly under CAB. When I wasDA> workingDA> on forms I noticed that mail-to posts were being interpreted asDA> plainDA> mail-to tags. I told alex and he said he would fix it. IDA> haven't tried itDA> since then though. Flinny would be the best person to ask as myDA> knowledgeDA> of html is pretty dodgy.DA> DA> DanAny ideas?BFN, Jon---* Kivi 1.41a * Skimming the networks from 42BBS (90:102/166) 0 00-00-2800:00FFFNET Jonathan Nott Re: Cab.Ovl 483 4  To: 2:25/56To: ackerman.29@postbox.acs.ohio-state.eduHi Dan, ...you said to Jonathan Nott:DA> Flinny would be the best person to ask as myDA> knowledgeDA> of html is pretty dodgy.I've forwarded the whole lot to Nick ;-)Thanks again, Jon---* Kivi 1.41a * "I could never get the hang of Thursdays." (42:42/0) 8 00-00-2800:00Brian Stanton Jonathan Nott Re: Modem/Titan 484 9  Hi Brian, ...you said to Jonathan Nott in NetMail:b> FROM: bstanton@cix.compulink.co.uk (Brian Stanton)b> b> Many thanks - cheque arrived today. Will get the modem in the postb> tomorrow.Got - as on the phone!b> Unfortunately, I cannot find the box - searched the loft,b> outhouse, theb> hellhole under the stairs - no go! The wife must have turfed it inb> one ofb> her famous scorched earth clear-outs....All was on perfect condition!I showed my Dad the size of the modem compared to the box and he thought it was madness ;-)b> My replacement hasn't arrived, so back to a 1200 temporarily. Evenb> worseb> than yours!!!That's cool as you can try and type faster than the modem can send and then you get checksum errors. Even easier on a 300 bps modem - you only have to type @ 37.5 cps..Crunch that keyboard!BFN, Jon---* Kivi 1.41a * Skynet on 42BBS (FFFnet 42:42/0) 3 00-00-2800:00Denesh Bhabuta Jonathan Nott Re: Support.html 485 4  Hi Danny, ...you said to Jonathan Nott:d> > I currently have : d> > http://www2.wildnet.co.uk/~dbhabuta/support.htmld> ah it is http://www2.wildnet.co.uk/~dbhabuta/atari/support.htmlNoted :)BFN, Jon---* Kivi 1.41a * Email is aggressive ~ jon@fffnet.demon.co.uk 33 00-00-2800:00Daron Brewood Jonathan Nott Re: NeST Internet User li 51 4 ! Hi Daron, ...you said to Jonathan Nott:DB> Thanks for all the above Jon, I really do wish people would letDB> me know whenDB> things change.I'll have to be useful again in the future...;-)BFN, Jon---* Kivi 1.41a * Skynet on 42BBS (FFFnet 42:42/0) 33 00-00-2800:00Harry Sideras Jonathan Nott Re: NeST Internet User li 53 3 ! Hi Harry, ...you said to Jonathan Nott:HS> He didn't have any until this weekend. However, he is nowHS> dale1@cix.compulink.co.uk !!Ta for that, Sid!BFN, Jon---* Kivi 1.41a * "I could never get the hang of Thursdays." 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