›››#: 168023 S1/GAMES›    31-Aug-86  20:33:21›Sb: #167992-ALTERNATE REALITY›Fm: DON WYMAN 72456,2717›To: MIKE CARPICK 73217,1527››Get thee to a healer. Have him restore›your clarity. All of your neat stats›will eventually go back to where they›were. If you think 87 str and 47 int is›high, how about these: 220 str, 62 chr,›57 int. 192 hit pts. That's where I›(thorex) am now. Only 200,000 more pts.›for level 14 (2,500,000). Don Wyman›Thorex level 13: 2,300,000 exp. pts.›--------------------------------------››#: 168024 S1/GAMES›    31-Aug-86  20:36:32›Sb: #167994-ALTERNATE REALITY›Fm: DON WYMAN 72456,2717›To: MIKE CARPICK 73217,1527››No spells in the city. Maybe in the›dungeon. Want to have fun?? Try a›potion of Noticeability (Yellow,›Bitter, Caution). Really brings out the›baddies. Don Wyman (thorex lvl. 13) 1››#: 168094 S2/Telecommunications›    01-Sep-86  03:58:27›Sb: Alternate Reality›Fm: DON WYMAN 72456,2717›To: Jeff Hand ( 76556,3402››Jeff; Just hit level 14 tonite!!!!!›2,427,000 exp. pts. Jumped from 192 hit›pts. to 218. STA 30, CHR 65, STR 229,›INT 61, WIS 28, SKL 29. I now carry›over 200 potions and have over›2,000,000 coppers in the bank. Where is›the Dungeon????? I'm ready. I still›can't find the Mag. Crystal Armour. I›have to settle for mundane Elfin Chain.›Oh well, you can't have everything. Don›Wyman (thorex level 14!!!!)››167851-#ALTERNATE REALITY›Fm: MIKE CARPICK 73217,1527›To: DON WYMAN 72456,2717 (X)››Yo,› Galvatron(My friend) got deluded and›doesn't know how to undo it! How???››Paws and claws could be the cause› of anyone heres demise...›› Xebec                    Galvatron› 5,000                       5,000››››››› lv. 5                       lv. 5›40,000 cp                 ?????????? cp››#: 167994 S1/GAMES›    31-Aug-86  16:11:42›Sb: #167872-#ALTERNATE REALITY›Fm: MIKE CARPICK 73217,1527›To: JOHN GARTMAN 72327,1545 (X)››Anyone know how to get spells? Please?››Armor, this we have for you We do›Armor, Tools of death we have those too›Swords, worth much more than you pay›Swords, to hold evil at bay››          Xebecc›      (oooooppps)›       Xebec›       5,000››#: 168021 S1/GAMES›    31-Aug-86  20:27:33›Sb: #167951-ALTERNATE REALITY›Fm: DON WYMAN 72456,2717›To: Fran Bonito 76626,137 (X)››Fran; Go to the city square and turn›west. Go to the end of the street and›follow the path to the left (south).›When you get to the first long passage›heading south, bump the walls on your›left. The first wall should open. Look›around there and you will see 3 doors.›Face the center one and enter the one›to the left. Turn left and go straight.›This should take you to the AlphaOmega›Healers. Or take an Amber, Plain,›Caution potion for the poison and a›Clear, Acidic, Caution potion for the›Disease. If you haven't already, look›in the DL2 games area for my potions›list. Yes there are other women›players. Just don't run across them›that often. Don Wyman Thorex level 13:›2,300,000 exp. pts.››#: 168106 S1/GAMES›    01-Sep-86  10:33:01›Sb: ALTERNATE REALITY›Fm: Floyd Walker 72247,36›To: ALL››Greetings: I don't know if this will›help anyone, but the talk of a potion›of delusion has awakend a memory---›When I had been poisoned a couple of›levels back, I kept trying for a potion›of cure poison, alas no luck. But one›potion helped me survivedelusion!!! I›››››››don't know why, but I think that it was›that I didn't realize that I was dead -›therefore I lived. It allowed me enough›time to reach a healer-quite a few›"hours" later! I guess that the HP that›it displays are accurate-for the›moment. They constantly change, but if›you don't go below zero, you live. I've›survived to reach level 8(!) now, and›am defeating knights and small green›dragons(at last!). I hope that this may›help some lost Adventurer out there!›                      Floyd Walker›                      Traalfonz›                      Lvl. 8+››#: 168141 S2/Telecommunications›    01-Sep-86  16:17:17›Sb: #168094-Alternate Reality›Fm: Jeff Hand 76556,3402›To: DON WYMAN 72456,2717 (X)››Don;›   Congrats on lvl 14.  It'll be awhile›before I get there.  Jorel is only at›1,600,000 ex pts. I've been rather›busy, getting ready to move tomorrow. ›I'll get back in touch as soon as I'm›set up again.›                Jeff››#: 168178 S1/GAMES›    01-Sep-86  22:17:45›Sb: Alternate Reality›Fm: DON WYMAN 72456,2717›To: Jeff Hand 76556,3402››Jeff; Almost missed your message. It›was up in Telecommunications. Whoops.›Try a potion of Noticability. It really›makes things happen. I can't go a block›or so without an encounter. Don Wyman.›(thorex level 14)››#: 168235 S1/GAMES›    02-Sep-86  19:12:26›Sb: #168023-#ALTERNATE REALITY›Fm: MIKE CARPICK 73217,1527›To: DON WYMAN 72456,2717 (X)››I got me to a healer.›› Xebec   level 6     17,860› -------------------------Thanx. WHAT›ABOUT SPELLS AND TREASURE FINDING and,›most importantly, OF WHAT USE is›INVULNERABILITY to›WATER!!!!!!!????????!! Sorry. I got a›almost complete map[I'll put it on the›cpu if anyone wants some but not›››››››all[just what I found, 13 guilds, a›healer, 15 taverns, etc.››Raise your mug, Another Jug,› Relax and stay through the night!››#: 168236 S1/GAMES›    02-Sep-86  19:16:00›Sb: #168024-ALTERNATE REALITY›Fm: MIKE CARPICK 73217,1527›To: DON WYMAN 72456,2717 (X)››I know all the potions, and yeah, was›great, got to 30,040 or so. One›problem. Dragons. Wasn't ready. Backup›disk, as always, ERROR-144›AAAIIIGGGHHH! Now, as for a›flamesword....?››  Xebec   level 6    17,860›  ------------------------[Has anyone›caught it yet?) [think.....]››When some are lost, can't find their›way A number of them stray,› to where you've come today››Then there are those that this is for,› and those that are no more›  We've peace and yet theres war!››#: 168256 S1/GAMES›    02-Sep-86  21:45:21›Sb: #168235-ALTERNATE REALITY›Fm: Floyd Walker 72247,36›To: MIKE CARPICK 73217,1527››About the invulnerability to water--I›would guess it pertains to destructive›potions such as poisons or acids. It›might also protect against the various›slimes that may be encountered. I've›never ran across the IW potion-Guess›that's why I've been "slimed" more than›once (Holy shades of Ghostbusters,›Batman!).›                      Good Luck!›                       Floyd Walker›                       Traalfonz (8+)››#: 168273 S1/GAMES›    02-Sep-86  23:46:56›Sb: #167991-Arrgh-Alternate Reality›Fm: STAN KOPF 70426,647›To: MIKE CARPICK 73217,1527››YOU CAN INCREASE STRENGTH,›INTELLIGENCE, CHARISMA, AND FLEETNESS›BY QUAFFING PO POTIONS. SAVE 5 OR 10›THEN MAKE SEVERAL BACKUPS OF THE PLAYER›››››››DISK. RESTART QUAFF POTIONS, IF THEY›ARE BAD, RESTART AGAIN.  ALSO, HIT›POINTS AND STATS INCREASE RANDOMLY EACH›TIME YOU INCREASE ONE LEVEL.  SAVE›PLAYER JUST BEFORE› ADVANCING TO THE NEXT LEVEL. MAKE›COPIES.  RESTART AND TRY SEVERAL›POSIBILITIES.  I HAVE ADVANCE HIT›POINTS FROM 5 TO 20 ON DIFFERENT›RESTARTS AND ADVANCED FROM ONE TO ALL›STATS (I LEARNED THIS TOO LATE TO HELP›ME VERY MUCH).                        ›ENJOY! THE DUNGEON DISK WILL BE OUT›SOON!›               SAMWISE››#: 168276 S1/GAMES›    02-Sep-86  23:58:52›Sb: ALTERNATE REALITY›Fm: STAN KOPF 70426,647›To: DON WYMAN 72456,2717 (X)››Just left an order with SDA for the›DUNGEON disk, they expect to be›shipping them by October! Also, just›learned as I passed to level 12 that›hit points and stats were randomly›advanced (Samwise is denser than lead›me thinks). Wish I had known that in›the beginning. I only had 113 hit›points at level 11 and it will take›many long hours to break 200 and to›advance my stamina above 18 where it›started.  Oh well,  see you in the›DUNGEON.››Stan››#: 168292 S1/GAMES›    03-Sep-86  02:43:48›Sb: #ALTERNATE REALITY›Fm: JOHN MORALES 76410,30›To: Don Wyman ( 72456,2717 (X)›› Don its me again but this time I have›some questions me and my newly addicted›AR friends have ,one ask Ive been good›for three days havnt killed anyone but›thieves and muggars but am still lev 1›less than one thou pts Im at lev 5 and›when I go to the tail of the dog bar›the bartender aYOU WANT does this mean›Ive been to bd and can I change their›oppinion of me by being good. again Ive›got a little money now 8,000 copper so›I can calm down a bit and if so who›should I attack to get some of the good›weapons currently have short sword and›banded armor and battle ax just sort of›crusing town but gets kinda boring just›››››››walking around ..........any›suggestions.....››..........Thanks John››#: 168371 S1/GAMES›    03-Sep-86  23:08:29›Sb: #168235-ALTERNATE REALITY›Fm: DON WYMAN 72456,2717›To: MIKE CARPICK 73217,1527››Mike; Spells and Rings are not used in›the City. Treasure Finding just helps›you get more out of your encounters. If›you feel you have a reasonably strong›and well-equipped character, try a›potion of Noticeability (yellow,›bitter, caution). You will have more›encounters than you know what to do›with. A word of caution. You must take›an Unnoticeability potion to stop the›effects (clear, bitter, caution).›Nothing else will do it, not even a›healer. I don't know what INv. water›does. I'm open to suggestions. Also›Invu. Mental and Earth. The Inv. Air›protects against the Screams of the›Wraith. Good Luck and happy hunting.›Don (thorex level 14: 2,500,000 exp.›pts.)››#: 168375 S1/GAMES›    03-Sep-86  23:13:44›Sb: #168292-ALTERNATE REALITY›Fm: DON WYMAN 72456,2717›To: JOHN MORALES 76410,30››Not sure John. Try Buying a drink for›everyone. You may have tried to buy›food or water without enough funds too.›Don't really know???? Don››#: 168425 S1/GAMES›    04-Sep-86  04:15:49›Sb: Alternate Reality›Fm: LARRY EMERY 73137,3172›To: Don Wyman 72456,2717 (X)››(cry?)›(See next message for part 2) (PART 1)›Thursday, Sept. 4, 1986  3:43 A.M.›Hi Don! (and others too!)›  Excuse me for acting as if I've known›you for years.  I just kind-of feel›that way after having read so many of›your AR messages over the past few›months.  At first I couldn't figure out›what the big deal was about this game›that warranted all of those messages on›the SIG.  Then, about 2 months ago, I›››››››began READING them.  Thank goodness, my›curiosity got the better of me, and I›bought the game about a month ago. ›Don, I've never seen ANYTHING like it!›It took very little time for me to get›HOOKED, and I've been locked to my›computer ever since.›  The graphics are UNBELIEVABLE! It's›hard to imagine how Phil Price "squoze"›that entire city's scenes into 48k. ›The only game I've seen that hints›toward his probable "wallmaking"›technique is an old SIRIUS game called›"WAYOUT", in which the player has to›find his "way out" of a nicely done 3D›maze of walls.  There are many›different mazes on that game, with›varying degrees of difficulty.  The›walls are just flat red though - no›wierd rock-facing as in AR walls.›  I think Gary Gilbertson - beyond all›doubt - deserves an AWARD for the most›beautiful and original music and songs›ever written for an 8-bit game.  (I'm›sure that poor Commodore users suffer›for lack of a fourth voice on their›machines. Doesn't it just make you want›to break down and cry?)›     (See next message for part 2)› /EX››(I wish this place would quit cutting›off the ends of my messages...)›  Anyway, good luck to everybody...››             Larry››**************************************›(PART 2) (see prev. msg. for pt. 1)››  Anyway, after MANY sleepless nights,›I believe that I've mapped the entire›city.  The first thing I did was to›"trial and error" my way to a decent›starting character, hack, slash, charm,›and trick my way up to level-8, (saved›him to quite a few disk sides), and›used him repeatedly to go around each›quadrant and bump walls until I found›everything.  I started mapping in the›Southwest, and moved counter-clockwise,›leaving the great, imposing, (but until›the ARENA comes, rather›inconsequential, save for 'Tavern')›Northwest for last.›  Other than the quantified locations›mentioned in our directions, I found:›(1) Jack's Fitness Academy, (2) Maximum›Casino, (3) House of Ill Repute,›(4)Four exits to The Wilderness (when›››››››traveling at the City Wall, I mostly›bumped inward, so I may have missed a›few of these) (5) Two entrances to The›Dungeon, (6) One entrance to The Palace›(went by the back but didn't try walls›yet), (7) Seven entrances to The Arena,›(8) Acrinimiril's Gate.›  There are a couple of oddities. (1)›Two little squares in the Southeast›that one can enter, but CANNOT exit›from.  I just sat there, killed whoever›else haplessly joined me in that cell,›and beat walls in vain 'til I died. ›Hope we don't find too many more traps›such as those in any sequels.  (2) The›southwest corner along the south wall›was the only part of the city that I›couldn't make sense out of while›mapping.  After leaving the L.W. Guild,›I traveled south to what is said to be›the City Wall, then went east through 9›secret doors, and all of a sudden, I'm›one block north of the City Wall(?).›(programming err?) (3) There are 2›shops, one in the Southwest, and one in›the northwest corner, which share the›same name and hours of operation.  If›these are considered the same shop,›then I have one more yet to find.›  Most of the secrets of the city arent›TOO tough for the persistent›wall-banger, but of all of the›inhabited locations in the city, my››#: 168431 S1/GAMES›    04-Sep-86  12:41:48›Sb: #Alternate Reality (#3)›Fm: LARRY EMERY 73137,3172›To: Don Wyman 72456,2717 (X)››Don,›  Sorry for the messed-up partial›messages.  The system (or my s/w) kept›clipping off my messages just near the›ends.  Anyway,  continued success to›you and all AR enthusiasts.›››              Larry››*************************************››#: 168481 S1/GAMES›    04-Sep-86  22:20:47›Sb: #168431-Alternate Reality (#3)›Fm: DON WYMAN 72456,2717›To: LARRY EMERY 73137,3172 (X)››Nice to hear from you Larry. Yes there›are 2 squares you cannot get out of.›››››››This is an unintentional "bug" in the›program. Hang in there and happy›hunting. Don Wyman (thorex level›14:2,500,000 exp. pts.)›››››››››››››››››››››››››››››››››››››››››››››››››››››››››››››››#: 168821 S1/GAMES›    09-Sep-86  04:55:34›Sb: ALTERNATE REALITY›Fm: JOHN GARTMAN 72327,1545›To: DON WYMAN 72456,2717 (X)›› I EVEN HAVE MONEY IN THE BANK!,POTIONS›IN RESERVE. AGAIN THANKS FOR THE HELP.›                 JOHN GARTMAN›                 MAX-1 LEVEL 9›  DON,› THANKS FOR THE ADVICE. SO FAR IT HAS›WORKED. I AM NOW AT LVL. #9 96,271 HIT ›POINTS.  STILL LOOKING FOR 1 TAVERN,›AND 3 GUILDS››#: 168863 S1/GAMES›    09-Sep-86  23:05:52›Sb: #Alternate Reality›Fm: Groove 71320,1130›To: don wyman››  Hey, me again.  I need that›newsletter also, mine wasn't sent when›I sent in my card.  (Or do they send›them to Commodore users??) I'm managing›a map, but I need to know a couple›things:  One, WHERE are the guilds that›give you str and HP?  And can you do›anything in places like theHouse of Ill›Repute, or not?  Two, how do you get›the potion s you want?  I've noticed›that certain monsters give me certain›potions, but not always...And which inn›has the special message at midnight and›wHERE is it??? (sorry for all the›wheres but my characters don't last›long 'nuff to map anything seriously.›I've been thru so many it's rediculous.››     Well, thanx for the help...›              Groove››#: 168892 S1/GAMES›    10-Sep-86  02:43:29›Sb: ALTERNATE REALTY›Fm: LONNIE J. SCHULZ 76625,2433›To: ANYBODY››HI JUST GOT MY MODEM. HAVE HAD›ALTERNATE REALTY FOR ABOUT 2 MO.›CHARACTER NAME IS METALICA(TUFF GUY HA›HA) LVL 9 EXP 127,000 KILL KILLED 5 SM.›GREEN DRAGON 3 NIGHT STALKERS HAS BEEN›TO ALL SHOPS TAVS INNS GUILDS HEALERS›AND OTHER POINTS OF INTERST HAS ABOUT›40 GRAND IN 3 BANKS . CHAIN MAIL›LONGSWORD TOWERSHEILD MAGICAL STILETTO›AND WHIP BIG QUESTION: WHAT IS XEBEC?››››››››#: 168926 S1/GAMES›    10-Sep-86  21:10:06›Sb: #Alternate Reality›Fm: Sean Kelly 72505,1316›To: ALL››Well, I've just received my copy of›Alternate Reality, and after getting›used to the load-time, drive set-ups,›and character disk back-ups, I just›can't seem to get myself going in the›right direction (that is, away from›death). I suppose I've gotten used to›Ultima IV, yet could anyone give a›suggestion on what I need to get going,›besides a strong cup of coffee after›just making a character (taking me into›late night, and I love sleep, except›when I have a new trinket for my›computer). - Sean››#: 168930 S1/GAMES›    10-Sep-86  21:20:47›Sb: #168681-Arrgh-Alternate Reality›Fm: STAN KOPF 70426,647›To: MIKE CARPICK 73217,1527››Mike,  only one level to the city›itself, but there are additions to the›city coming out: THE DUNGEON (October),›THE ARENA, THE PALACE, THE WILDERNESS› and a couple more. Drink a potion of›treasure finding and everyone you›encounter will have› TREASURES for you, more gems, jewels,›weapons and gold.  Your stats will go›up faster.››Samwise››#: 168931 S1/GAMES›    10-Sep-86  21:31:39›Sb: #168926-Alternate Reality›Fm: STAN KOPF 70426,647›To: Sean Kelly 72505,1316››When you get a solid character (good›stats), make several backup copies of›that character in case he doesn't›survive long. Listen to the music with›each encounter.  Higher-pitched›introduction is for the good,  leave›them alone or you will suffer later. ›Lower-pitched music is for the evil and›you can fight these but avoid forms›that are superior until you have›strength and weapons to battle with›(try muggers, they're usually easy). As›soon as your character gets a gem,›Jewel, or gold, save position and make›››››››backups again so that a Knight doesn't›take them away.  If you are lucky you›will win weapons in battle but I have›also had to buy them. Cheapest Inn and›Smithie, and a cheap Tavern are in the›southwest one-fourth of the southwest›quadrant. Good-luck! Samwise II› ›#: 168933 S1/GAMES›    10-Sep-86  21:39:18›Sb: #ALTERNATE REALITY›Fm: STAN KOPF 70426,647›To: Don Wyman 72456,2717 (X)››Well Don,    the original Samwise was›laid to rest...too evil for me, I›couldn' t disengage from the good guys.›Got back into the banks after the 25›minute delays and had suffered 235›failures overnight, lost 500,000›coppers thru the 3 banks.  And worst of›all› was finding only molds to fight at›night (and the healers were always out›to lunch!).   Restarted with SAMWISE›II.  Up to level 8 with 142 hit points›(30 more than I had at level 11), and›more STA, WIS, and SKL than I had›before so I guess it was worth›restarting. QUESTION: what clothes does›the well-dressed adventurer wear, and›what is this about a special message at›one INN at Midnight? SAMWISE II››#: 168944 S1/GAMES›    10-Sep-86  22:19:23›Sb: #168933-ALTERNATE REALITY›Fm: Floyd Walker 72247,36›To: STAN KOPF 70426,647 (X)››Samwise II: The well-dressed adventurer›should be color-coordinated, and the›material of the garments should be of›the finest silk, or better yet,›dragonskin. Personally I prefer the›grays and silvers, but any colors will›be fine. I've heard that the better the›clothes, the more thieves and muggers›one will attract.›                     Happy Hunting!›                      Floyd Walker›                      Traalfonz (8+)››#: 168979 S1/GAMES›    10-Sep-86  23:52:16›Sb: #168863-#Alternate Reality›Fm: DON WYMAN 72456,2717›To: Groove 71320,1130 (X)››The guilds that increase your str and›››››››hp are: Red wizard (southeast);›Physicians (southwest); and Star›wizards (southwest). You cannot do›anything at the House of Ill-Repute.›Sorry. Potions are entirely random and›not decided until you take them. I›don't know about the "special message"›at a tavern. Sorry. Don Wyman (thorex›level 14)››#: 168981 S1/GAMES›    10-Sep-86  23:56:37›Sb: #168926-Alternate Reality›Fm: DON WYMAN 72456,2717›To: Sean Kelly 72505,1316››Sean; Just type GO TEG-2994 at any›prompt and you will be taken to a hint›file on AR in the Gamers Sig. Capture›it and print it out. It will be very›helpful. There are 3 or 4 sections and›is very good. It also includes a›condensed version of my potions list.›If you are in need of further help,›just shout. I also have a complete map›set available. Just leave me a message›on EasyPlex and I will give you info on›ordering and price. Don Wyman (thorex›level 14)››#: 168982 S1/GAMES›    11-Sep-86  00:00:16›Sb: #168933-ALTERNATE REALITY›Fm: DON WYMAN 72456,2717›To: STAN KOPF 70426,647 (X)››There have been hints that clothing is›important in the Dungeon. With that in›mind, I bought a complete outfit of›Dragonskin clothing. I have heard of›Dragonskin boots but have not seen them›at any shop. I don't know about a›message at a tavern at midnight. Don›Wyman (thorex level 14)››#: 168983 S1/GAMES›    11-Sep-86  00:03:06›Sb: #168943-Alternate Reality›Fm: DON WYMAN 72456,2717›To: Jeff Hand 76556,3402 (X)››Nice to hear from you again. I just›moved myself last month. I know what›you are going through. Have you tried›the Noticeability Potion yet. It really›gets things hopping. I finally got over›250 potions. I think I'll need them in›the Dungeon. Happy Hunting Don Wyman›(thorex level 14)››››››››#: 168999 S1/GAMES›    11-Sep-86  07:59:41›Sb: #168979-#Alternate Reality›Fm: Phillip Fuselier 71320,1130›To: DON WYMAN 72456,2717 (X)››  Thanks.  I heard (deduced?) in a song›something like 'Night messages found/›not all year round/seek ye the ....›something somethig something.  I said›before, the Commodore ver. MAY be a›little different than the Atari›(probably HARDER, too!!)  Glad to see›you finally hit 14!  Gives me some›hope. What can you get to from the City›Wall? I found entrances/exits but can›you get to any taverns, inns etc?›  By the way, thats my real name...›Groove wasn't acceptable to the Sysop.›Oh, well...Listen, you gotta help me.›I'm 48 YEARS OLD and I have no time to›play this consarned game all the time›like I have been (and I'll do the same›for the dungeon when I get it in›October) The newsletter WOULD help me,›if Datasoft would sent it to me!›  It is impossible for me to have a›pirate copy of the game, because they›(Datamost) used some protection my›newest copy program wouldn't accept›when I tried to make a backup of them›(I'm worried about excessive wear,›THATS how much I play it!)  Character›disks, SURE, but...Ah, well, I'll leave›you my address in Easyplex.›  I doneed the maps anymore, I'm str›uggling one out, but I need all 4›newsletters if you would be willing to›sell them to me!  (this could be a real›moneymaker, AR help, haha!)›       Thanks again,›               Groove/Phil››#: 169066 S1/GAMES›    11-Sep-86  23:59:00›Sb: #168999-Alternate Reality›Fm: DON WYMAN 72456,2717›To: Phillip Fuselier 71320,1130 (X)››There is not much along the city walls›except the Tavern. It is the cheapest›in town and can be found in the›northwest quadrant in the north wall.›Enter the wall near the Grams Gold›exchange and head east for 19 or 20›blocks. Turn right and it's there. I›will look into the possibility of›uploading the newsletters. I'm waiting›to hear from Datasoft on it. Don Wyman›(thorex level 14)››››››››#: 169124 S1/GAMES›    12-Sep-86  22:00:44›Sb: #ALTERNATE REALITY›Fm: RON HODGES 71565,150›To: DON WYMAN 72456,2717 (X)››DON:  Thanks for the info in your›previous message to me on 9/8/86. I'll›leave you an EMAIL message with my›address.›I have a new project now, triggered by›playing AR.  I have a large CP/M system›and ran across a public domain piece of›software called the ATARIBUS.  It is a›method of using your CP/M system as›disk drives and printer for the ATARI›8-bit machines.  It should allow me to›have the AR disks as "pseudo-disk"›files on the CP/M machine as ram disks›and have almost instant access.  I'll›report back how it works.››       Thanks again ... Ron Hodges››#: 169133 S1/GAMES›    12-Sep-86  23:33:02›Sb: #168999-Alternate Reality›Fm: JUAN BRAVO 76406,547›To: Phillip Fuselier 71320,1130 (X)››If you want to make a copy, Why don't›you buy THE DUPLICATOR 1050?. I have›one and it takes care of any unusual›format like 19 sectors, CRC errors,›slow speed, etc., etc... Don't think›I'm copying a lot of programs. I don't›know anybody here (New Rochelle, NY)›who owns Atari computers. I only make›backup copies for my own use <I don't›want my originals destroyed by›accident> The backup copy is exactly›the same as the original (including the›protection scheme).››                  Juan Bravo›                  76406,547››#: 169160 S1/GAMES›    13-Sep-86  02:10:20›Sb: Alternate Reality›Fm: STEVEN WILLHITE 72337,154›To: all››From the sound of things here, I'm not›the only one addicted to this thing›(thank God for that!).  Anyway, I don't›mean to sound like a spoiled sport, but›what is the point?!? I'm at a high›experience level, with plenty of hit›››››››points, but I can't find a›break/turning point in the game. Am I›doing something wrong?  I mean, I've›avenged myself for being kidnapped›(hundreds of dead v villians and›monsters), but what now? HELP! Any›hints will be greatly appreciated.››#: 169193 S1/GAMES›    13-Sep-86  14:05:13›Sb: #alternate reality›Fm: Bill Damm 73247,3330›To: Don Wyman 72456,2717 (X)››Here is a list of weapons available›from various smithies in descending›price. Presumably, the more expensive›is better. You'll notice that the real›"high end" items are missing. Also, I'm›not sure if being magical elevates an›item to a higher position in the list›(eg. is a magical battle axe better›than a mundane sword?). Anyway, this›may serve as a guide for some in the›early going.››Weapons: battle hammer, sword, battle›axe, flail, shortsword, war net, whip,›dagger, stiletto.››Armor: banded, chain mail, splint mail,›scale mail, ring mail, studded leather,›leather, padded.››Shields: tower shield, spiked shield,›shield, small shield.››Thanks for all the help, Don. I hope›that this is interesting to you and›will be helpful to others.››        Bill (George, lvl 10, 227,000+›exp.)››#: 169198 S1/GAMES›    13-Sep-86  15:05:30›Sb: #169193-alternate reality›Fm: DON WYMAN 72456,2717›To: Bill Damm 73247,3330››I found that the weapons go pretty much›as you have listed. However, I found›that the Magical Battle Hammer is›superior to the Magical Longsword,›especially when it comes to Small Green›Dragons. Now I have the Mag. Flamesword›which is superior to all. There are 2›types of Armour which you cannot get at›a Smithy. The Elfin Chain (I have it›now but haven't seen any magical›››››››Elfin), and the Magical Crystal Plate.›The Crystal is the finest available.›I'm still looking for it. Phil Price›(the Author) told me these are the best›types of armour. Don Wyman (thorex›level 14: 2,565,000 exp. pts.)›››››››››››››››››››››››››››››››››››››››››››››››››››››››››››››#: 169813 S1/GAMES›    20-Sep-86  21:30:20›Sb: #alternate reality›Fm: Mike Saunders 72477,1675›To:  72456,2717 (X)››Dear Don, We are a couple of retired AR›players. We were wondering if you have›been sparing the good characters,and›slaughtering the bad, or just killing›all to gain EX, points? Also, Do you›really think they will finish this›entire game? At this rate the game will›cost about $150.00! Is it possible to›finish the first disk as a game itself?›We like the game and have finished›about all we can but are disappointed›with the lack of a reward. Thanks for›your time! SUNDAY and THORAX››#: 169817 S1/GAMES›    20-Sep-86  21:55:13›Sb: #169813-alternate reality›Fm: DON WYMAN 72456,2717›To: Mike Saunders 72477,1675››There is a tremendous amount of karma›involved in AR. If you continually kill›anything that moves, you will gain a›nasty reputation in the City. You will›be rewarded in kind. If you go too›long, you will not even be able to›enter Inns, and Taverns. Your›experience will go up but you will not›get the better weapons and things. For›example, my character was pretty bad›until about 1,000,000 exp. pts. He only›found Cursed Flameswords and Tower›shields. After 1,591,000 exp. he›finally found a Mag. Flamesword and›then soon after got the Mag. Tower›Shield. As far as finishing the game›goes, No, you can not finish it in the›City alone. The City was designed to›develop your character for the future›installments. I was told that you need›at least a level 10 character to›survive in the Dungeon (the next disk).›I have pretty much "retired" thorex›(level 14), until the Dungeon comes›out. I have all but given up on finding›the Magical Crystal Plate Armour for›now. Hang in there, the Dungeon is›coming. Try to buy a maximum of food›and water. You can carry 255 of each. I›think it will be necessary in the›Dungeon. Also deck yourself out with›some real good clothes. I've heard they›will be important in the Dungeon. A›couple hundred potions wouldn't hurt›››››››either. Good Luck and see you in the›Dungeon. Don Wyman (thorex level 14)››#: 170098 S1/GAMES›    25-Sep-86  00:04:49›Sb: #ALTERNATE REALITY›Fm: Floyd Walker 72247,36›To: ALL››????? Does anyone out there know what›in the heck the "restore sight" option›is in the "Restore" sub-section of the›healers? Or isn't it used in the city›yet?›                      Floyd Walker›                       Traalfonz›                      64,000+ (lvl.8)››#: 170113 S1/GAMES›    25-Sep-86  02:55:59›Sb: #ALTERNATE REALITY›Fm: RICHARD POSTGATE 73017,1735›To: ALL››I JUST BOUGHT THE OCTOBER ANTIC›MAGAZINE, AND FOUND THAT SOFTWARE›DISCOUNTERS OF AMERICA IS ADVERTISING›ALTERNATE REALITY THE DUNGEON. I DON'T›KNOW IF THEY ACTUALLY HAVE IT YET,›THOUGH. (DON WYMAN... I KNOW YOU'RE›DESPERATE FOR IT... WHY DON'T YOU CALL›THEM?) [RICHARD POSTGATE]››#: 170114 S1/GAMES›    25-Sep-86  03:19:32›Sb: #170113-ALTERNATE REALITY›Fm: RON HODGES 71565,150›To: RICHARD POSTGATE 73017,1735››Richard:  I called COMPUTABILITY on Sat›(9/20) and they THOUGHT they would be›ready to ship THE DUNGEON in about›three weeks.››#: 170231 S1/GAMES›    27-Sep-86  04:10:44›Sb: #170098-ALTERNATE REALITY›Fm: Jeff Hand 76556,3402›To: Floyd Walker 72247,36 (X)››Floyd;›    The restore sight is not used in›the current game.  It will bw used in a›future installment.›                Jeff(Jorel lvl 14)››#: 170245 S1/GAMES›    27-Sep-86  12:26:25›Sb: #170098-ALTERNATE REALITY›Fm: DON WYMAN 72456,2717›››››››To: Floyd Walker 72247,36 (X)››Floyd; the "restore sight" should be›used in the Dungeon from what I heard.›"do be kind to poor and BLIND". I also›understand that you will encounter the›"blind" there also. Don Wyman (Thorex›level 14)››#: 170247 S1/GAMES›    27-Sep-86  12:29:27›Sb: #170113-ALTERNATE REALITY›Fm: DON WYMAN 72456,2717›To: RICHARD POSTGATE 73017,1735››Sorry the Dungeon has not been›released. After you've been around for›5 years in the Atari game like I have›you will find out that this is common›practice with the mail-order houses.›Don't order anything that they don't›have in stock. If you order now you›will be put in a back-order file. Don›Wyman (thorex level 14)››#: 170418 S1/GAMES›    28-Sep-86  20:29:37›Sb: ALTERNATE REALITY›Fm: JOHN MORALES 76410,30›To: DON WYMAN ( 72456,2717››          Reciently returned from›vacation to hear THOREX has retired at›\ lev 14 waiting for the DUNGEON. Well›the datasoft people now say they hope›the dungeon will be out bu the end of›October sounds like a problem brewing›here for us die hard players will they›be able to complete the series or at›least give us some sort of guarantee›that they will try many players have›abandoned the game because of the›delays and the posibility that they›will not finish as I know we have spent›many months playing and developing our›characters I aslso ponder this .›          WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON›THIS.››          Also thanks for the maps you›helped me get to WHER I AM›LEV 11...MAGIC FLAMESWORD..MAGIC›TOWERSHIELD...MAGIC CRYSTAL›PLATE...MAGIC SHORTSWORD AND MANY›POTIONS.....››DON IS THE MAGIC FLAMESWORD THE›ULTIMATE WEAPON IN THE CITY.. AND WHAT›DRIVE IS THERE TO CONTINUE AFTER YOU›HAVE REACHED THIS STAGE..››››››››AN ALTERNATE REALITY FRIEND..››KILLER JOHN  LEV  11  500.000 EXP.››#: 170800 S1/GAMES›    02-Oct-86  17:44:27›Sb: #ALTERNATE REALITY›Fm: Eric S. Plent 76246,201›To: RICHARD POSTGATE 73017,1735 (X)››Hi Richard, You can check on the›software you want by typing "go SDA"›for Software discounters of America.›Hope this helps!.››  Later on,›           E.S.P.››#: 170819 S1/GAMES›    02-Oct-86  20:10:56›Sb: #170418-#ALTERNATE REALITY›Fm: DON WYMAN 72456,2717›To: JOHN MORALES 76410,30 (X)››The Magical Flamesword is the best›weapon you can get. The Tower Shield›and Crystal Plate (which I still don't›have) are the best in those areas. I›can understand the delays in getting›out the next installments of the game.›I think one of the problems is that›Phil Price is no longer with Datasoft›and they may be having problems›following his lead. I just hope that›the Dungeon is equal to or better than›the City. I look forward to a greater›challenge. Thorex is semi-retired. I›bring him out once a week or so trying›to find the Magical Crystal Plate›armour. Once you have the best weapons›and are over level 10, you might want›to "retire" and wait for the Dungeon. I›would suggest getting up to 255 food›packets and water flasks, and maybe›over 100 potions. You never know what›you will need in the Dungeon. I also›set thorex up with the best Dragonskin›clothing. I heard that clothing will be›important in the Dungeon. Don Wyman›(thorex level 14)››#: 170971 S1/GAMES›    04-Oct-86  14:55:59›Sb: #170819-ALTERNATE REALITY›Fm: JOHN MORALES 76410,30›To: DON WYMAN 72456,2717››        Don thanks I now unserstand the›delay as of friday DATASOFT said they›››››››were begining testing THE DUNGEON and›that it will be better that we can›imagin they also said it should ship›the last week of October lets hope so›well thanks for the help Ill stock up›on food and water Im now well into›level 11 and semi retired look foward›to all of us AR players colaberating on›the DUNGEON.›.›...›.... UNTIL WE MEET IN THE DUNGEON›<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< KILLER JOHN›>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>››#: 171482 S1/GAMES›    10-Oct-86  20:22:07›Sb: #ALTERNATE REALITY›Fm: DON WYMAN 72456,2717›To: Charles Coons 74765,630 (X)››Charles; I don't know why he lost all›his money unless he had it all in one›bank. I seem to recall something about›losing it all due to a problem figuring›interest. The bank assumes that all›your accounts are unused. Maybe that's›what happened. I don't know if changing›clothes does anything for you. I have›heard that it is important in the›Dungeon, but I don't know why. I›haven't heard from Datasoft about the›Newsletters. I'm waiting for their›permission to upload them. Good Luck,›Don Wyman (thorex level 14)››#: 171515 S1/GAMES›    11-Oct-86  02:24:02›Sb: #ALTERNATE REALITY›Fm: RICHARD POSTGATE 73017,1735›To: Eric S. Plent 76246,201 (X)››I HAVE AN 80XL AND AN OLD 400 WITH 32K›(GROWING MOLD CURRENTLY... I HATE›MEMBRANE KEYBOARDS!) AND TWO DRIVES. DO›YOU KNOW WHEN THE DUNGEON IS SUPPOSED›TO BE AVAILABLE? SDA ADVERTISED IT, SO›I'M GOING TO ASK THEM IF THEY HAVE IT›OR WHEN THEY MIGHT BE GETTING IT.›[RICHARD POSTGATE]››#: 171519 S1/GAMES›    11-Oct-86  07:34:39›Sb: #ALTERNATE REALITY›Fm: Charles Coons 74765,630›To: AR PLAYERS››First, a general question. Has a use›been revealed for the "kill" squares in›th the SE quadrant? I've not seen any›››››››thing on this. Second, Have you read›the review of AR on The Electronic›Gamery? Talk about a hachet job! While›both reviews are very accurate, as far›as they go, they were both done on›Commodore computers, and don't (as far›as i'm concerned) present a full›picture of the fun of the game. I have›a c-64 as well as my 800xl and both›machines have good  & bad points. No›getting around that. The problem is,›with Commodore slow disk access, and›programing problems, the Alternate›Reality program for Atari doesn't get a›fair shake.Maybe I'm just upset over›nothing, but I think the difficulties›are over-stressed, and the good parts›glossed over. Comments?›************Charles Coons, 74765,630***›************Lummox, Lvl 9**************››#: 171539 S1/GAMES›    11-Oct-86  15:58:00›Sb: #171519-ALTERNATE REALITY›Fm: JOHN MORALES 76410,30›To: Charles Coons 74765,630 (X)››        Charles being an AR freak I›agree AR has taken some bad shots the›kill squares a mearley traps of death›as far as Im concerned DATASOFT also›agrees NEWS DataSoft now says the›DUNGEON will be out first week of Nov.›I hope they are presently coding the›music to the game and then they will›test it,If you have any questions dont›hesitate to ask..›.....›....KILLER JOHN›.................LEV 12,,,,MAGIC›FLAMESWORD,,,,MAGIC TOWER SHIELD,,,,›.......›         MAGIC CRYSTAL PLATE.......›........ IT DOSN'T GET ANY›BETTER.........................›                        BRING ON THE›DUNGEON !!!››#: 171575 S1/GAMES›    12-Oct-86  12:25:13›Sb: #171482-ALTERNATE REALITY›Fm: MIKE PROVANT 73147,624›To: DON WYMAN 72456,2717 (X)››    CHARLES,›     Thought I'd mention that the bank›problem happened to me. I lost about›300,000 and had to start over. I'm›running a second 'good' character who›is approaching the end of his second›››››››year and I will be certain to draw out›all my money first!›   I haven't changed clothes very often›but I notice that I'm meeting a lot›more thief/robber types after switching›from an all gray outfit› to gaudy colors.›     Well, good luck to Lummox.››                Mike Provant›                73147,624››#: 171825 S1/GAMES›    15-Oct-86  23:53:04›Sb: #171515-#ALTERNATE REALITY›Fm: DON WYMAN 72456,2717›To: RICHARD POSTGATE 73017,1735 (X)››I hope you don't mind my jumping in›here. The latest from Datasoft is that›the Dungeon will be out in the middle›of November. I was disappointed to hear›that myself. Oh well, good things come›to those that wait. Don Wyman (thorex›level 14)››#: 171827 S1/GAMES›    16-Oct-86  00:00:10›Sb: #171519-ALTERNATE REALITY›Fm: DON WYMAN 72456,2717›To: Charles Coons 74765,630 (X)››The "kill" squares were an accident in›the programming. I was told this by the›author, Phil Price. Yes there are›definite differences in the two›versions. AR was written for the Atari›on an Atari and was ported to the C-64.›The game is the same but the disk›access is very different. I have a›130XE and the disk access is much›faster and less frequent than it was›with my old 800. Also you might try›hitting the HELP key on the 130XE or›the 800XL and see what happens. There›is a help function that is not in the›docs. Also the contest for the most›awesome character is over. The winner›was the only entry at level 15. He must›have had over 5,000,000 exp. pts. I got›an honorable mention and will be in one›of the upcoming issues of the›Newsletter. Still waiting for the›Dungeon. Don Wyman (thorex level 14)››#: 171844 S1/GAMES›    16-Oct-86  13:17:44›Sb: #Alternate Reality›Fm: Jeff Hand 76556,3402›To: Don Wyman 72456,2717 (X)››››››››Don;›    How many of the newsletters have›you received. I have not gotten one›since issue #3 and was wondering if›there had been any more put out.  I›sent a change of address to Datasoft›but you know how the mails go sometime.›    Congrats on the honorable mention›on most awesome character, I thought›for sure you would win.  I can't›imagine a level 15, wonder what his›stats are.›    Talk to you later,›                Jeff (Jorel lvl 13)››#: 171903 S1/GAMES›    16-Oct-86  23:18:59›Sb: #171844-Alternate Reality›Fm: DON WYMAN 72456,2717›To: Jeff Hand 76556,3402 (X)››I would have to look, but I think I got›3 newsletters, possibly 4. They sent a›special letter about the contest. I›sent in an address change with the›entry and they changed it right away.›See ya in the Dungeon (mid Nov.) Don›Wyman (thorex level 14)››#: 171979 S1/GAMES›    18-Oct-86  02:22:49›Sb: #171825-ALTERNATE REALITY›Fm: RICHARD POSTGATE 73017,1735›To: DON WYMAN 72456,2717 (X)››WHAT! POSTPONED AGAIN!? ARGH! [RICHARD›POSTGATE]››#: 171980 S1/GAMES›    18-Oct-86  02:22:59›Sb: ALTERNATE REALITY›Fm: Charles Coons 74765,630›To: JEFF HAND 76556,3402››Jeff, I just got my copy of the›newsletter today, (#4 by the way) and›this guy's total is incredible. The›Winner of the AR contest , I›mean.Someone (Richard Carduff of›Calgary Canada) must have spent a good›4 hours a day,all summer to get stats›like 108 CHR, 152 Int, and 7,122,176›exp! Anyway, he wears fur, and has 1051›jewels, and 1222 gems, as well as 2›Mag. Fla Flameswords.  Very well done›i'd say. Other items of note are: Evil›characters have a way to redeem›themselves in the Dungeon; Money is›necessary, but coppers won't cut it;›››››››and first impressions are important.›That's some of the high-lights. Have›fun, and watch out for those Assasins!›*************Charles Coons, 74765,630**›*************Lummox, Lvl 9*************››#: 171981 S1/GAMES›    18-Oct-86  02:31:05›Sb: Alternate Reality›Fm: Charles Coons 74765,630›To: Don Wyman 72456,2717 (X)››Don, Congrats on your honorable›mention!!! On to the›Dungeon!!!!!.........(eventually)[grin]›************Charles Coons,74765,630****›************Lummox LVL 9***************›PS Thanks for the help on those›squares, they had me bugged!!!››#: 172026 S1/GAMES›    18-Oct-86  20:46:04›Sb: #171978-ALTERNATE REALITY›Fm: DON WYMAN 72456,2717›To: RICHARD POSTGATE 73017,1735››According to Datasoft, the Dungeon›should be released in the middle of›November. I too am getting impatient.›Hang in there. I hear it's going to be›worth the wait. Don Wyman (thorex level›14)››#: 172029 S1/GAMES›    18-Oct-86  21:08:44›Sb: #171978-ALTERNATE REALITY›Fm: Eric S. Plent 76246,201›To: RICHARD POSTGATE 73017,1735››#: 172045 S1/GAMES›    19-Oct-86  12:39:37›Sb: #ALTERNATE REALITY›Fm: RON HODGES 71565,150›To: DON WYMAN 72456,2717 (X)››Don:  Haven't talked to you in awhile. ›I am the guy who was hooking up the›CP/M machine to act as disk drives for›the 800XL.  Well, it works, sort of. ›For general programming it is terrific.›I can even run the setup using my CP/M›ramdrive for SUPERCHARGED disk I/O on›the 800XL.›Now my question.  I was hoping to run›AR with two "pseudo" drives on the CP/M›machines.  The AR disks copy fine to›the CP/M machine, but the system hangs›up during the loading of Disk 2 Side 1.›Have you or anyone else used two drives›with AR?  Any secrets you know of to›››››››make this work?›                    Thanks, Ron Hodges››P.S.  Congrats on the listing in the›new newsletter!››#: 172057 S1/GAMES›    19-Oct-86  16:53:17›Sb: #172045-ALTERNATE REALITY›Fm: DON WYMAN 72456,2717›To: RON HODGES 71565,150››Maybe you could try putting disk 2 side›2 on the cp/m drive as drive 2. I don't›know how it would work since AR doesn't›use DOS. I use AR with 2 1050 drives›and have no problem. Don Wyman (thorex›level 14)››#: 172420 S1/GAMES›    24-Oct-86  20:37:46›Sb: #172359-#ALTERNATE REALITY›Fm: DON WYMAN 72456,2717›To: RICHARD POSTGATE 73017,1735 (X)››I was invited to attend as a guest›"expert". I learned that the Dungeon›will be out before Xmas. I also learned›that Phil Price, the author of the›City, is working as a consultant on the›sequels. That's really about all. The›session lasted 3 hours and covered a›lot of things. I was glad to hear that›Wizardry will be out for the 8-bit›Atari's in the spring. I've seen it on›the Apple and it looks great. That's›about it. I wish there were more. Don›Wyman (thorex level 14)››#: 172435 S1/GAMES›    25-Oct-86  01:05:43›Sb: #172420-ALTERNATE REALITY›Fm: RICHARD POSTGATE 73017,1735›To: DON WYMAN 72456,2717››OH WELL... AT LEAST PHIL PRICE WILL›HAVE SOME PART IN THE FUTURE PARTS TO›ALTERNATE REALITY... I PLAY WIZARDRY ON›MY IBM COMPATIBLE. IT'S AL RIGHT, BUT›AR IS FAR BETTER. [RICHARD POSTGATE]››››››››››››››