Date: 10 Mar 91 05:02:40 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!magnus.ircc.ohio-state.edu!news@arizona.edu (Frank E. Seipel) Subject: Alternate Reality To: Info-Atari8@naucse.cse.nau.edu HERE Here are some messages from an old (1986) Compuserve thread concerning Alternate Reality. They contain some useful information. Sorry they are in 40 columns. #: 160306 S1/GAMES 21-Jun-86 21:28:36 Sb: ALTERNATE REALITY Fm: PHIL W. GEORGI 72527,1355 To: ALL DOES ANYONE KNOW IF AND WHEN THE WILDERNESS AND AREANA DISKS WILL BE AVALIBLE???I'M ADDICTED TO THE GAME!!!!!! ALSO,ANY HINTS?????HAS ANYONE SEEN THE PROGRAMMERS NAME SPELLED OUT WITH THE CITY WALLS? PHIL GEORGI 72527,1355 #: 160780 S1/GAMES 25-Jun-86 21:07:55 Sb: #160630-ALTERNATE REALITY Fm: DON WYMAN 72456,2717 To: DAVE REARICK 74226,721 Dave; too bad about the bum disk. The problem is the extensive protection scheme used by Datasoft. It is one of the most sofisticated on the market. Unfortunately it means that it won't work properly on some drives. You may thank your local PIRATE network for that. It just shows that someone has to pay for the misconduct of others. Too bad. I hope you get a new disk soon. Alternate Reality is one of the most addictive games I have ever played. It is like no other. I have seen similar games demoed on the ST. One of them is called Firestaff. I would almost buy an ST just to play that one. Good Luck. Don Wyman. #: 160926 S1/GAMES 26-Jun-86 23:01:47 Sb: #ALTERNATE REALITY Fm: JEFFREY R. HAND 76556,3402 To: DON WYMAN, 72456,2717 (X) Thanks for the quick response don. Also I have obtained a Magical FLAMESWORD from a troll. #: 160932 S1/GAMES 26-Jun-86 23:17:50 Sb: #160926-#ALTERNATE REALITY Fm: DON WYMAN 72456,2717 To: JEFFREY R. HAND 76556,3402 JEFF; OOOOHHHH, I'm jealous again. I just got a message from Andy Goldberg. He also just got a Magical Flamesword. I have gotten two of them but they were both CURSED!!! Curses. Rats. Oh well, maybe next time. Phil Price, the author, told me that the Flamesword is the best weapon available. The Magical Crystal armour is the best, with the Magical Elfin armour a close second. Keep going, you're doing great. Don Wyman, level 12, 900,000 exp. points. #: 161060 S1/GAMES 28-Jun-86 07:44:32 Sb: #160932-#ALTERNATE REALITY Fm: Henry T. Colonna 74726,3216 To: DON WYMAN 72456,2717 (X) I get diseased sometimes in the middle of the game. I have a legit. copy. It boots up & I'm fine. Occasionally when it boots up I am immediately diseased. It says 'scurvy' under ailments. However...last night it occurred in the middle of the game and didn'T say 'scurvy'. Any ideas? #: 161081 S1/GAMES 28-Jun-86 11:58:26 Sb: #161060-ALTERNATE REALITY Fm: DON WYMAN 72456,2717 To: Henry T. Colonna 74726,3216 (X) As far as the booting disease (scurvy) is concerned, make sure you have several backup copies of your character so you can reboot. Keep one copy writeprotected so you don't use it. If you are diseased during the game, it is because you were scratched or wounded in some other way by an adversary. The most common are Giant Rats (Rabies), Slime (slime), and Mold (mold). You may also be poisoned by Imps, Nightstalkers and others. The way to tell is if you are in a battle with any of these creatures and they take hit points from you, you can be sure they infected you. Get thee to a Healer. Sometimes the effects of these diseases don't show up for a while. You can also use a cleanse potion (Clear, Acidic, Unsure), Heal All potion (white, salty, caution), or a Cure Poison (Amber, plain, caution) potion. Good Luck and good hunting. Don Wyman, level 12, 975,000 experience points. #: 161080 S1/GAMES 28-Jun-86 11:49:26 Sb: ALTERNATE REALITY Fm: DON WYMAN 72456,2717 To: ANDY ANDY;I am answering your questions here so others may benefit from the exchange. Leave your messages here from now on, OK? The first Champion I encountered I was able to Trick as a first option. That's why I didn't know how tough he was. Since then I have just fought him as I would a Knight, no problem. There are 2 stores (shops) with the same name in 2 different areas of the city. It was a mistake so don't worry about that. There are only 12 guilds in the city, not 14. The other 2 are in the Arena area and will not be accesible until the Arena disk comes out. The Dungeon is due around Sept. There is NO WAY OUT of the 2 traps areas on my maps. This is another booboo in the game. It was unintentional according to Phil Price. Spend some of your money on fine clothes. I was told that what you wear will have an effect in the Dungeon. If you are Inebriated (drunk) you must get to an Inn and sleep it off or a healer to remove alcohol. You can also use a cleanse potion. Good Luck and happy hunting. Thanx for the offer, but I'll keep searching for my Flamesword. Don Wyman level 12 975,000 experience points. #: 161090 S1/GAMES 28-Jun-86 12:42:11 Sb: ALTERNATE REALITY Fm: DON WYMAN 72456,2717 To: ALL I have just uploaded my potions list for Alternate Reality. It is in DL1 and and may be downloaded with Xmodem. There is 1 more potion than what is in the list I send with the maps I sell. Enjoy. Don Wyman 72456,2717 #: 161445 S1/GAMES 01-Jul-86 23:02:31 Sb: #160932-#ALTERNATE REALITY Fm: JEFFREY R. HAND 76556,3402 To: DON WYMAN 72456,2717 (X) Don, I've finally reached lvl 12. Also, I have plain Crystal Armor Hope you get a FLAMESWORD soon as it makes quick work of Dragons. #: 161531 S1/GAMES 02-Jul-86 21:58:24 Sb: #161445-ALTERNATE REALITY Fm: DON WYMAN 72456,2717 To: JEFFREY R. HAND 76556,3402 Congrats on the level 12. Also on the Flamesword, and the Crystal Armor. I'm still searching for them. I will go over 1 million exp. tonight. Only 200,000 pts. to level 13. I have found 3 Magical Flameswords and all were Cursed. Good luck and happy hunting. Don Wyman. #: 161445 S1/GAMES 01-Jul-86 23:02:31 Sb: #ALTERNATE REALITY Fm: JEFFREY R. HAND 76556,3402 To: DON WYMAN 72456,2717 (X) Don, I've finally reached lvl 12. Also, I have plain Crystal Armor Hope you get a FLAMESWORD soon as it makes quick work of Dragons. #: 161531 S1/GAMES 02-Jul-86 21:58:24 Sb: #161445-#ALTERNATE REALITY Fm: DON WYMAN 72456,2717 To: JEFFREY R. HAND 76556,3402 (X) Congrats on the level 12. Also on the Flamesword, and the Crystal Armor. I'm still searching for them. I will go over 1 million exp. tonight. Only 200,000 pts. to level 13. I have found 3 Magical Flameswords and all were Cursed. Good luck and happy hunting. Don Wyman. #: 161591 S1/GAMES 03-Jul-86 19:52:49 Sb: #161531-ALTERNATE REALITY Fm: JEFFREY R. HAND 76556,3402 To: DON WYMAN 72456,2717 Don; I hope you reach level 13 soon. I expect to make by the third week in July. Also the Flamesword kills wraiths so it is definitely worth having. Jeff Hand(Jorel),lvl 12, 680,000 exp. points. #: 161556 S1/GAMES Sb: ALTERNATE REALITY Fm: RON HODGES 71565,150 To: DON WYMAN 72456,2717 Don: I've been checking for several days and can't find the potions list in the DL section. Any help? You seem to be the "resident expert" on AR and as I'm a beginner at role playing games, I NEED HELP. I've managed to map about half of the city, but can't get above level 4. I just can't seem to get enough cash to EAT/DRINK/REST and keep my strength up. I'm using the "hack & slash" technique, but suspect there may be a better way(?). Any help you can give would be appreciated. P.S. Do you know anything about a "users group" for AR. I read something about it in the Portland Oregon Atari club magazine. Thanks in advance. Ron -- Level 4 -- Barely Ali #: 161635 S1/GAMES 04-Jul-86 00:51:59 Sb: #ALTERNATE REALITY Fm: DAVE REARICK 74226,721 To: DON WYMAN HELP,AGAIN DON. YOU ARE RIGHT. THIS GAME IS ADDICTIVE. BUT ALSO INFURIATING. I'M AT LEVEL 8, 42 000 EXP. BUT I'M GETTING NOWHERE. ANY "GENERAL HINTS" TO OFFER????? I HAVE A BUM DISK,BUT THE GAME IS ADDICTIVE ENUF TO NOT WANT TO BE WITHOUT IT. BUT, I'M READY TO CHALK IT UP AS A BAD BUY. I7M NOT A MAPPER(I KNOW YOU SELL YOUR MAPS) BUT I AM AT A SEEMINGLY ENDLESS BLIND ALLEY. HELP!!!!! #: 164317 S1/GAMES 28-Jul-86 23:49:42 Sb: Alternate Reality Fm: TED BORAH 70717,2254 To: DON WYMAN 72456,2717 (X) Don, I have been continuing to play with the character as is and am managing to stay alive by frequent visits to the healer. I'm hoping to come across something soon. He is up to a level 11 now. Ted Borah --Tombstone Teddy-- #: 164330 S1/GAMES 29-Jul-86 02:03:54 Sb: #Alternate Reality Fm: Jeff Hand 76556,3402 To: Vance Nesbitt 76475,2674 (X) Vance; As Don said there are 12 Guilds The other two are in the Arena. As for the other tavern, have you found the "Tavern" in the NW corner. Also I've had invulnerability air for some time and have had no ill effects. It may be that your disk is defective and needs to be recut. Good hunting, Jeff Jorel lvl 12 #: 164355 S1/GAMES 29-Jul-86 08:20:07 Sb: #164330-#Alternate Reality Fm: VANCE NESBITT 76475,2674 To: Jeff Hand 76556,3402 (X) Yes I visit "TAVERN" often. Nice place. I could use some help locating those two guilds I never found. Heres a list of the ones I do have. guild of ORDER. wizards of LAW guild. RED wizards University. ASSASSINS guild. DARK wizards guild. STAR wizards guild. LIGHT wizards guild. PHYSICIANS guild. GREEN wizards guild. BLUE wizards guild. Those other two have my nose stumped. I don't know where I havn't looked? Any hints would be appreciated. Bye. VANCE NESBITT VANCELOT still LVL 6. Being nice and sleeping nights. #: 164454 S1/GAMES 30-Jul-86 00:53:35 Sb: #164355-#Alternate Reality Fm: Jeff Hand 76556,3402 To: VANCE NESBITT 76475,2674 (X) Vance; Try looking around the Dancing Nymph tavern for the Thieves Guild. Then you might try the area behind the Last Stop tavern for the Wisards of Chaos Guild, close to which is one entrance to the Dungeon. Good hunting, Jorel lvl 12 1,200,000 Jeff #: 164484 S1/GAMES 30-Jul-86 03:21:51 Sb: #164454-Alternate Reality Fm: VANCE NESBITT 76475,2674 To: Jeff Hand 76556,3402 (X) thanks jeff. My nose was getting sore. I finally found that missing tavern. Lusty Lloyds. How I miss these places I don't know. Thanks (Vancelot lvl 7.) #: 164599 S1/GAMES 30-Jul-86 23:09:59 Sb: #164454-#Alternate Reality Fm: DON WYMAN 72456,2717 To: Jeff Hand 76556,3402 (X) Vance: the 2 guilds you are seeking are both in the Northeast quadrant. The Wizards of Chaos is about 3 blocks north of the Last Stop Tavern. It is hidden but not too hard to find. The other is where Jeff suggested. Keep looking. If you have found the others these should be a piece of cake. Don #: 165040 S1/GAMES 03-Aug-86 19:56:10 Sb: #Alternate reality Fm: Bill Damm 73247,3330 To: Don Wyman One thing that I haven't seen anyone mention yet is sleeping accomodations. I'vefound that it doesn't pay to skimp here. My character has recovered more hit points more quickly sleeping in a more expensive room. One question: do you know the effects of PROTECTION +2 and how long it lasts? I've been able to quaff acid with no untoward effect since getting it, but I don't know what else it does for me. Thanks for all the help - I read AR messages here twice a week. Hope this is useful to someone out there. Bill (GEORGE - LEVEL 6) #: 165138 S1/GAMES 04-Aug-86 21:26:10 Sb: #165040-Alternate reality Fm: DON WYMAN 72456,2717 To: Bill Damm 73247,3330 (X) Bill; Protection 1 and 2 are temporary armour. I don't know if it has an effect on acid or anything else. I think that maybe Invul. water may have the effect you are mentioning. I agree with what you said about staying in better rooms to heal up. I stay in suites as a rule. Your Hit points do restore faster. One other thing that I have been doing is carrying 255 water and food. There are no ill effects such as fatigue from this practice. It is also much easier to build back up. You cannot carry more than 255 of each. I have done this in anticipation of the Dungeon. You will probably not have any Taverns down there. Don Wyman (thorex level 13: 1,500,000 exp. pts.) #: 165180 S1/GAMES 05-Aug-86 01:42:45 Sb: #alternate reality Fm: RICHARD POSTGATE 73017,1735 To: all A few things... First of all, has anyone noticed that there are actually four types of music played for monsters? (There are two main types, plus two variations on each of the main types). Also, are there any rings to be found in the city? I've found a good way to get a character going (up a few levels quickly when you start out). When you have some potions in your possesion, what kind they are is totally random. So if you save your character (then back it up), next time you load it the potions will be different. So you keep loading your character until one of the potions you're carrying turns out to be a treasure finding. Don Wyman- There is a large area SE of the arena that I can't find any way into to map...What does your map look like there? An addition (or correction) to the potion list in DL0; I drank a Black Sweet potion that turned out to be Invulnerability Blunt! Why do treasure finding potions say they last so long (the name below your food and water), and yet they only seem to work well for a few hours, then don't really help much any more? [Gray Mouser, lvl 7] #: 165202 S1/GAMES 05-Aug-86 11:27:51 Sb: #165180-#alternate reality Fm: mark henry 76525,2150 To: RICHARD POSTGATE 73017,1735 oops.! You are right about the Inv. Blunt. I've never noticed anything benificial about the Treasur Finding potion. STILL looking for guilds! Stalker lvl 7 Richard, I too have the blank area SE of the Arena. I'm hoping the answer shows up soon. You #: 165389 S1/GAMES 06-Aug-86 22:52:26 Sb: #165202-alternate reality Fm: DON WYMAN 72456,2717 To: mark henry 76525,2150 (X) The area SE of the Arena is closed to you now. It is part of the Arena and you will find the 2 "missing" guilds there. The Black potions are somewhat variable. I have had the same experience. The Treasure Finding is also a variable effect as to its longevity and power. It seem that the more "bad" you are the less you get from it. There are no rings in the City. I have heard that they are associated with the guilds and will be used in the Dungeon due in late Sept. '86. Don Wyman. #: 165281 S1/GAMES 05-Aug-86 22:57:51 Sb: #Alternate Reality Fm: Jeff Hand 76556,3402 To: Don Wyman 72456,2717 (X) I finally reached lvl 13 today! Have you gotten a flamesword yet? Jeff (Jorel lvl 13) #: 165391 S1/GAMES 06-Aug-86 22:58:37 Sb: #165281-#Alternate Reality Fm: DON WYMAN 72456,2717 To: Jeff Hand 76556,3402 (X) Jeff. Congrats on the level 13. No, I haven't found the Flamesword. Been busy getting ready to move next week. Also I have been going out during the day so I can find the Boots and Dragonskin Hat. No luck there either. I was playing around with the Owner of the Betelguese sales. I kept offering low amounts for his goods. He finally kicked me out for good. When I enter, he just says "Get out Worm". This has lasted for at least 15 "City" days. He's really ticked. I don't recommend that type of behavior. Oh well, there are a lot of other Shops. Take care. Don Wyman (thorex level 13: 1,500,000 exp.) #: 165440 S1/GAMES 07-Aug-86 08:21:08 Sb: #165391-#Alternate Reality Fm: mark henry 76525,2150 To: DON WYMAN 72456,2717 Don and Jeff, I have discovered that if your REAL bad, every one kicks you out! and all the taverns have entry fees! I even got kick out of mom's bar...was i upset! so, that's the warning. Stalker lvl 7.5 #: 165555 S1/GAMES 08-Aug-86 03:44:16 Sb: #165440-#Alternate Reality Fm: Jeff Hand 76556,3402 To: mark henry 76525,2150 (X) Mark, Thanks for the hint. Jorel is a good charcter so I've never run into that problem. Jeff (Jorel lvl 13) #: 165574 S1/GAMES 08-Aug-86 11:27:59 Sb: #165555-Alternate Reality Fm: mark henry 76525,2150 To: Jeff Hand 76556,3402 (X) Jeff, Believe me when I say that I no longer run bad charatcters! I learned the hard way. I once had a character that had awesome Charm so I got to big for my britches. Guards where falling left and right Grog (that was his name) showed no mercy. He was close to Chaotic Evil if you ever played AD&D. So now I run characters as good (Lawful Good) people. They do much better in the long run. I've found that, for me anyway, evil types aren't even around for the long run. Be seeing ya. Stalker lvl 7.5 #: 165469 S1/GAMES 07-Aug-86 19:29:30 Sb: #ALTERNATE REALITY Fm: FLOYD T. WALKER, JR. 72247,36 To: ALL Hi there! I just recently got the fantastic game Alternate Reality, but I can't seem to get higher than level 3 or 4. Is there a way to ...converse... with the creatures that one meets in the city? Or possibly finding money lying in the streets (haven't found any yet) ? I would really appreciate any and all hints and suggetions that are offered. Just leave 'em here and I'll find them. By the way, my thanks to Don for the list of potions. Floyd Walker Darkmoor Lvl 3 or 4 72247,36 #: 165554 S1/GAMES 08-Aug-86 03:37:18 Sb: #165469-#ALTERNATE REALITY Fm: Jeff Hand 76556,3402 To: FLOYD T. WALKER, JR. 72247,36 (X) Floyd, unlike Ultima you cannot converse with the other life forms in AR. You'll will get treasure, from time to time, after an encounter with another lifeform. Treasure can take the form of money, jewels, gems, potions, or potions. Jeff #: 165587 S1/GAMES 08-Aug-86 18:33:44 Sb: #165554-#ALTERNATE REALITY Fm: FLOYD T. WALKER, JR. 72247,36 To: Jeff Hand 76556,3402 (X) Jeff, I seem to have figured out as much as you've told me. My biggest problem is this-> example: I'm walking down some street and have an encounter with, say, a knight or something like it. It automatically is in engaged in combat. I hit-*-no effect. It hits -- Darkmoor's pushing up daisies after receiving 9 or so hits. What I'm looking for is a quick way to get cash and/or a reasonable weapon (not just a dagger). Any suggestions??? Dead again... Floyd Walker 72247,36 #: 165674 S1/GAMES 09-Aug-86 04:24:57 Sb: #165587-ALTERNATE REALITY Fm: Jeff Hand 76556,3402 To: FLOYD T. WALKER, JR. 72247,36 Floyd, Until you're at a higher level with some decent weapons and armor I'd disengage most stronger life forms, i.e. knights, swordsman, gladiator, and the like, you'll lose some money and treasure once in awhile put at least you're alive. Have you tried going out at night for a short time, thats when I got almost all of my better weapons and armor. Most of all just keep on trying. I don't know how many times I had to restart the game until I got a character that was worth something. Good luck, Jeff #: 166106 S1/GAMES 13-Aug-86 05:05:29 Sb: #ALTERNATE REALITY Fm: RICHARD POSTGATE 73017,1735 To: Jeff Hand 76556,3402 (X) I GUESS YOUR CHARACTER MUST BE AT LEAST SOMEWHAT EVIL, BECAUSE GOOD GUYS LEAVE WHEN I IGNORE THEM. AT WHAT LEVEL DID YOU GET THE FLAMESWORD (DOES IT GIVE YOU BETTER WEAPONS AS YOU GAIN LEVELS)? IS THERE ANY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LUNGE AND ATTACK? I HAVE MAGICAL PLATE AND A SPIKED SHIELD AND A SWORD (YET I ALWAYS GET CREAMED BY KNIGHTS...GEE...AREN'T KNIGHTS SUPPOSED TO BE GOOD?). [GRAY MOUSER, LVL 8] #: 166107 S1/GAMES 13-Aug-86 05:14:39 Sb: #ALTERNATE REALITY Fm: RICHARD POSTGATE 73017,1735 To: DON WYMAN, 72456,2717 (X) WHAT WEAPONS BESIDES A FLAMESWORD ARE BETTER THAN SWORDS? WHAT ARMOR'S BETTER THAN MAGICAL PLATE? I HAVE MAGICAL PLATE, AND YET I STILL GET CREAMED BY KNIGHTS, AND DRAGONS. WHAT KIND OF WEAPON AND ARMOR DO YOU NEED TO TAKE ON THESE AND OTHER TOUGH MONSTERS? [GRAY MOUSER, LVL 8] #: 166118 S1/GAMES 13-Aug-86 12:02:52 Sb: #alternate reality Fm: mark henry 76525,2150 To: MIKE CARPICK 73217,1527 (X) Mike, excuse me. Let me explain. I do not have an atari. Sorry to get your hopes up. I use this forum to talk to Don and all you people that play alternate reality. Although I don't have an atari I feel that I do have friends here that share the intrests that I do. Sorry again about getting your hopes up, Mark Stalker lvl 7 #: 166147 S1/GAMES 13-Aug-86 20:22:10 Sb: #166106-#ALTERNATE REALITY Fm: Jeff Hand 76556,3402 To: RICHARD POSTGATE 73017,1735 (X) Good life forms leave when I ignore them if I'm not in a "treasure finding" mode. I got the 1st flamesword at lvl 10, I thin, and I just got another one at lvl 13. It does seem that the higher you're the better the weapons you get. I got both flamesword from a troll, while in a "treasure finding" mode, near the alpha omega healers. Good hunting, Jeff (jorel lvl 13) #: 166178 S1/GAMES 13-Aug-86 22:47:15 Sb: #ALTERNATE REALITY Fm: Floyd Walker 72247,36 To: ALL Haallpp!! Does anyone know WHY, when I reach lvl. 4 or so, all the taverns seem to..well it says "Entering..." on the screen, the disks whiz a while, then "Leaving.." comes up. I eventually get too weak to defend myself -POOF- no mo' adventurin' for Traalfonz. Would going to a healer either counter the effects of starvation or possibly, somehow, let me back in the taverns? If so, or even if not, please give me explicit directions to the nearest ( and cheapest ) healer. Also, has anyone been to Lusty Loydd's yet? Got cheap food & drink. OOH! I'M DYIN' AGAIN! FLOYD WALKER 72247,36 #: 166180 S1/GAMES 13-Aug-86 22:53:11 Sb: #ALTERNATE REALITY Fm: Floyd Walker 72247,36 To: ALL RE. my previous message: I only eliminated 3 life forms -a commoner, and two dwarfs, and only wounded 1 other dwarf. the two elim dwarfs, I charmed them, and the commoner hit me first. All had the music associated with good life. Could this be enough to keep me out of the taverns? Floyd Walker 72247,36 #: 166181 S1/GAMES 13-Aug-86 23:01:59 Sb: alternate reality Fm: DON WYMAN 72456,2717 To: mark henry 76525,2150 (X) MARK, I just got my Magical Flamesword tonite (13 Aug.). I got it at 1,591,000 exp. pts. I am now at 1,650,000 with 185 Strength pts. Still waiting for the Dungeon. In case you haven't heard there are only 12 guilds. The missing 2 are in the inaccessible area of the ARENA. Hang in there. Don Wyman. #: 166182 S1/GAMES 13-Aug-86 23:05:04 Sb: #alternate reality Fm: DON WYMAN 72456,2717 To: Sara Groves 70775,712 (X) Sara; I also was unable to find my walkthrough. I found a very negative review by a guy named Sutton though. He apparently gave up on the game and didn't stick around long enough to learn. He had numerous facts incorrect and really trashed AR. Too bad. Don Wyman (thorex lvl. 13; 1,650,000 exp.) #: 166185 S1/GAMES 13-Aug-86 23:09:28 Sb: #166107-ALTERNATE REALITY Fm: DON WYMAN 72456,2717 To: RICHARD POSTGATE 73017,1735 (X) You will find that any Magical weapon is superior to mundane ones. The Flamesword is the best with the Magical Battle Hammer second. I finally dropped my trusty Magical Longsword. It got me through most of my 1,650,000 exp. Just be good and wait. You will get something better. Don Wyman. #: 166188 S1/GAMES 13-Aug-86 23:16:21 Sb: #166147-#ALTERNATE REALITY Fm: DON WYMAN 72456,2717 To: Jeff Hand 76556,3402 (X) Jeff. I finally got my Magical Flamesword. Goodness does pay off. I got it at about 5 in the morning a Guard. I had 1,591,000 exp. when I got it. Whew!!!!!! I wonder if anyone has been keeping track of Armour. I have Magical Scale Mail now, but have found Magical Banded Armour, Magical Chain, and Magical Ring Mail. I don't know if I should take them. I have a hunch that I should have taken the Banded thoug. I now have 185 Strength pts., 54 chr. and 52 Int. How you doing? Don Wyman (thorex level 13: 1,650,000 exp. pts.) P.S. Have you tried building up your food and water? I carry 255 of each now. I'm anticipating a need to carry lots of provisions in the Dungeon. #: 166189 S1/GAMES 13-Aug-86 23:19:15 Sb: #166178-ALTERNATE REALITY Fm: DON WYMAN 72456,2717 To: Floyd Walker 72247,36 (X) Floyd; try making backups of disk 2 and using them. If you are doing that now (and you should use the backups), try doing them over. I had similar problems. Also try cleaning your drive heads. AR uses all of the disk so your drive must be in tip-top condition. Don Wyman. #: 166219 S1/GAMES 14-Aug-86 12:00:10 Sb: #166178-ALTERNATE REALITY Fm: mark henry 76525,2150 To: Floyd Walker 72247,36 (X) Floyd, That happened to me once. If you are killing everything in sight then that may be your problem. I once ran an evil character that killed every thing thru charming. I was kick out of all the taverns after that. Some taverns would let me in if I paid an entry fee. this may be your problem. If not then try what Don suggests. Stalker lvl 7 #: 166220 S1/GAMES 14-Aug-86 12:03:29 Sb: #166182-#alternate reality Fm: mark henry 76525,2150 To: DON WYMAN 72456,2717 (X) Don, I also found that reveiw. too bad it's there. I think another should be done. How do you go about getting a review on the board? Stalker lvl 7 #: 166238 S1/GAMES 14-Aug-86 20:00:28 Sb: #166180-ALTERNATE REALITY Fm: VANCE NESBITT 76475,2674 To: Floyd Walker 72247,36 (X) HI, FLOYD. I HAVE HAD YOUR PROBLEM OF NOT BEING ABLE TO ENTER TAVERNS. WHEN I AM IN AN ESTABLISHMENT AT THE TIME IT CLOSES, I WILL BE UNABLE TO ENTER THAT TYPE OF ESTABLISHMENT (SHOP, TAVERN, ETC.) FOR TWO DAYS. ANOTHER CONDITION IS IF MY JOYSTICK (SENSITIVE) IS TILTED BACKWARDS I GET THE SAME EFFECT. AND THE THIRD CONDITION I CAN'T FIGURE OUT BUT I CAN USUALLY RE-ENTER ON THE SECOND OR THIRD ATTEMPT. SO NATURALLY I AVOID ESTABLISHMENTS AT CLOSING TIMES. HOPE THIS HELPS. BYE FROM Vancelot (lvl 9) Vaneesh (lvl 7) Vance (lvl 0 with FLAMESWORD) #: 166276 S1/GAMES 14-Aug-86 23:08:00 Sb: #ALTERNATE REALITY Fm: STAN KOPF 70426,647 To: ALL I NEED HELP...I CAN ONLY LOCATE 11 OF THE 12 AVAILABLE GUILDS. 2 IN NW QUAD 3 IN NE QUAD, 2 IN SE QUAD AND 4 IN SW QUAD....WHERE AM I MISSING ONE??? ALSO, I GOT THROWN OUT OF TAVERNS IN MY EARLY TRIES IF I BEGGED FOR FOOD I COULDN'T PAY FOR, THEY NEVER FORGET. NOW I ALWAYS BUY ROUNDS FOR THE HOUSE AND ALL TAVERNS GREET ME AS "DEAR FRIEND". EVERYONE ALSO HAS ME SCARED ABOUT THIS GOOD OR BAD CHARACTER SITUATION. I TRUSTED THE INSTRUCTIONS TO BE MYSELF AND ATTACK OR TRICK ALL (LV 11). AM I GOING TO HAVE TO RESTART? NO ONE THROWS ME OUT, I SEEM WELCOME EACH SHOP OR TAVERN. ALSO, WHEN I DRINK A POTION OF DELUSION ALL OF MY STATS GO UP 6 OR 7 POINTS AND STAY UP EVEN AFTER A HEALER HAS CLEANSED AND RESTORED ME. THEY STAY UP WEEKS LATER, IS THIS FOR REAL? I WILL APPRECIATE ANY HELP. THANKS, STAN KOPF [70426,647] #: 166297 S1/GAMES 15-Aug-86 01:31:36 Sb: #166220-#alternate reality Fm: DON WYMAN 72456,2717 To: mark henry 76525,2150 (X) Mark; if you want to leave a review on the gamer sig, just leave a message to a sysop. I leave mine to "Nightie". he will tell you how to do it. Basically, just type up an ascii file and upload it. I heard about the problem about Charming too much. Try to be nicer. Killing by charm is very nasty. Try tricking or disengaging. Personally I'd rather stand on my own 2 feet and fight it out. Of course that's easy to say with a Magical Flamesword and Magical Tower Shield and Magical Scale Mail. Oh well. Good Luck and good hunting. Don Wyman. (thorex level 13; 1,750,000 exp. pts.) #: 166299 S1/GAMES 15-Aug-86 01:37:49 Sb: #166276-#ALTERNATE REALITY Fm: DON WYMAN 72456,2717 To: STAN KOPF 70426,647 (X) Sometimes your stats will stay high after a delusion potion. It is not real. if you take a potion of noticeability it will put them back to normal. This potion is Yellow-Bitter-Caution. You are missing 1 guild in the NE. You should have; Wizards of Chaos, Guild of Order, Wizards of Law, and the Thieves Guild. Good Luck. Don Wyman (thorex level 13: 1,750,000 exp. pts.) #: 166302 S1/GAMES 15-Aug-86 01:42:27 Sb: #166188-ALTERNATE REALITY Fm: Jeff Hand 76556,3402 To: DON WYMAN 72456,2717 (X) Don, Congrats on the flamesword, it's about time! I would say the magical banded armour is the better one of what you mentioned. Yes, I now carry 255 water flasks and food packets. I have not played jorel muche reaching lvl 13. He has a little over 1,350,000 ex. pts. chr 45,str 139, int 48. Also I acquired another flamesword from a troll so now I carry 2, can't hurt I guess. Jorel has magical plate mail, magical battle hammer, and a magical tower shield. Looking forward to the dungeon. Good hunting, Jeff #: 166317 S1/GAMES 15-Aug-86 09:03:27 Sb: #166299-#ALTERNATE REALITY Fm: STAN KOPF 70426,647 To: DON WYMAN 72456,2717 (X) THANKS FO THE HELP DON. I'VE MAPPED THE CITY AND GONE BACK (I THOUGHT) MARKING EVERY WHERE I'VE BEEN, BUT COULDN'T IMAGINE HAVING TO SEARCH ALL 4 QUADRANTS AGAIN. I HAVE FOUND TWO ENCLOSED AREAS IN THE SOUTHEAST QUADRANT IN THE SOUTHWEST ONE-FOURTH CORNER WHICH I CAN GET INTO BUT THEN CANNOT GET BACK OUT OF. IS THIS FOR REAL OR AM I HAVING PROBLEMS WITH MY DISKS? THIS HAS CAUSED ME TO RESTART TWICE. I AM CURRENTLY BACK TO LEVEL 11 WITH 400,000 EXP AND AM AFRAID TO TRY THOSE TWO AGAIN AND HAVE TO RESTART ONE MORE TIME. ANYWAY, I WILL GO BACK TO THE NE QUAD AND BE MORE THOROUGH THIS TIME. THANKS, STAN (SAMWISE) #: 166346 S1/GAMES 15-Aug-86 21:12:41 Sb: ALTERNATE REALITY Fm: DON WYMAN 72456,2717 To: ALT. REALITY PLAYERS My AR walkthru is up on the gamers sig. just type GO TEG-2994 at any system prompt and you will go directly there. I hope it helps you new players. If not leave questions here or on the Gamers Sig (GO GAMERS). Don Wyman (thorex lvl. 13: 1,750,000 exp. pts.) #: 166347 S1/GAMES 15-Aug-86 21:17:40 Sb: #166317-ALTERNATE REALITY Fm: DON WYMAN 72456,2717 To: STAN KOPF 70426,647 (X) Stan, the 2 areas you mention about not getting out of are real. They are booboos in the programming. Not intentional. Stay out of them. My walkthru is up on the Gamers Sig now. Just type GO TEG-2994 and you will be taken directly there. Good Luck. Don. #: 166355 S1/GAMES 15-Aug-86 22:23:20 Sb: #ALTERNATE REALITY Fm: Floyd Walker 72247,36 To: ALL Hi again! Thanks to all of you out there that have given me helpful advice. Traalfaz is now level 6 and has mundane tower shield and a ... FLAMESWORD!!!! Boy, is it nice to have an adequate weapon! One problem...I'm poisoned aneed to get to a healer pronto because I can't seem to acquire a "cure poison" potion. Right now, I'm at the NW palace corner and need that healer bad! I will be thankful for any help! Thanks, Floyd Walker 72247,36 Traalfaz (LVL. 6) 14,000+ EXP #: 166357 S1/GAMES 15-Aug-86 22:38:35 Sb: #166355-#ALTERNATE REALITY Fm: STAN KOPF 70426,647 To: Floyd Walker 72247,36 (X) GET BACK TO FLOATING GATE. HEAD WEST TO WESTERN GATE. TURN SOUTH AND GO TO WALL THEN TURN WEST, GO TO WALL. TURN NORTH AND GO TO WALL. TURN WEST. GO WEST TO WALL, THERE SHOULD BE A TWO-BLOCK WALL TO YOUR LEFT AS YOU GO. TURN SOUTH. YOU SHOULD SEE A 3-BLOCK WALL HEADING TO YOUR LEFT RUNNING NORTH AND SOUTH(YOU ARE NEXT TO THE CITY WALL BY THE CORNER OF THE WESTERN GATE). THE NEAREST BLOCK ON THE WEST FACE OF THE 3-BLOCK WALL IS A PASSAGE PASS THRU EAST AND FOLLOW WALL AROUND UNTILL YOU ARE FACING THREE DOORS TAKE WEST DOOR. TAKE SOUTH DOOR AND STRAIGHT SOUTH TO ALPHA-OMEGA HEALERS THE ONLY OTHER HEALER IS BEHIND A WALL TO THE NORTH-WEST OF CITY CENTER WITHIN ABOUT 3 SQUARES OF THE SMITHIE YOU CAN FIND IT IF YOU START FROM THE WESTERN GATE AND GO NORTH TO FIRST DOOR, THRU DOOR, KEEP WALL TO RIGHT, GO NORTH TO SECOND DOOR, EAST THRU DOOR, THEN HEAD SOUTH. KEEP WALL TO RIGHT (AROUND ANY ATTACHED BLOCKS OR WALLS) AND YOU WILL EVENTUALLY GET TO THE HEALER. HOPE YOU MAKE-IT. STAN [SAMWISE LEVEL11] #: 166373 S1/GAMES 16-Aug-86 00:15:24 Sb: #166357-ALTERNATE REALITY Fm: Floyd Walker 72247,36 To: STAN KOPF 70426,647 (X) Stan, Thanks for the directions. Best wishes and good luck to you also. Floyd #: 166381 S1/GAMES 16-Aug-86 01:32:07 Sb: #166297-alternate reality Fm: Sara Groves 70775,712 To: DON WYMAN 72456,2717 Don, A walkthru for Alternate Reality was posted today. If you don't want to read the whole thing, you might read just the introduction and leave a message to the author, Don Wyman 72456,2717, if you like it. I gather this is one of those games which you either love or hate so others may have opinions more closely resembling yours. Sara P.S. Nightie is a she. #: 167391 S1/GAMES 25-Aug-86 17:01:28 Sb: #ALTERNATE REALITY Fm: MARK HENRY 76525,2123 To: DON WYMAN 72456,2717 (X) Don, congrats on hitting 2 mil!! I haven't been playin musc lately so Stalker is still only 7lvl 7 perhaps i will start again soon. (just got a color monitor for my system, It should look a lot better now. talk to you soon. Stalker lvl 7. #: 167397 S1/GAMES 25-Aug-86 19:09:38 Sb: #Alternate Reality Fm: Floyd Walker 72247,36 To: DON WYMAN 72456,2717 (X) Don, Guess what!! Thanks to your (and others) help, Traalfonz is now Lvl.7 with Flamesword, magical shield, and banded armor. Thanks! About the Wraith-Their screams are their most powerful weapon. I think that it bypasses armor. Possibly invulnerability air potion would help-I don't know. Let us know when you get the dungeon! Thanks Again, Floyd #: 167444 S1/GAMES 25-Aug-86 22:32:47 Sb: #167391-ALTERNATE REALITY Fm: DON WYMAN 72456,2717 To: MARK HENRY 76525,2123 Mark; I am ordering a monitor too soon. If all goes right, I will get an ST also. I am looking forward to playing AR on it as soon as it's available. Don Wyman #: 167447 S1/GAMES 25-Aug-86 22:34:52 Sb: #167397-Alternate Reality Fm: DON WYMAN 72456,2717 To: Floyd Walker 72247,36 (X) Since that awful encounter with the Wraith, I have taken the Invul. Air potion. Apparently it works. Good Luck Don Wyman (thorex lvl 13; 2,000,000 exp. pts.) #: 167451 S1/GAMES 25-Aug-86 22:48:47 Sb: #Alternate Reality Fm: WILLIAM C. RODAWALT 72327,3656 To: DON WYMAN Don, THanks for the help finding the taverns and the Assassin's Guild. I already had found the Thieve's Guild (don't know if i omitted it from my list or you missed it) but I am still missing one guild. From the artist conceptual drawing in the newsletter I am convinced that it has to be in the north-west quadrant. the guilds seem to be represented in the drawing as towers and they show up in the approximate location of the guilds that I have found. I see two of these towers in the NW quadrant but can only find the Blue Wizards Guild in that quadrant Another thing that happened to me resently has me a bit confused . I came across a magical sword (my first magical item in playing through nine levels) but my longsword still seems to do more damage, why is that??? I also ran into a ghost but could do no damage to it is there some sort of secret to killing ghosts??? I sort of feel guilty for leaning on you for all this info , hope i can return the favor later. Thanks in advance, William Rodawalt 72327,3656 A.K.A. Yozonseph (Level 9 and still going) #: 167640 S1/GAMES 27-Aug-86 22:01:54 Sb: #ALTERNATE REALITY Fm: STAN KOPF 70426,647 To: DON WYMAN [ 72456,2717 (X) DON, I am baffled now! I have finally entered year 2, have 530,000 exp 76 str and 47 int. Every time I go to the bank the computer locks up with the 'ACCOUNT FAILURE' message. I've recopied all the disks three times now and that doesn't change it (I will get another head-cleaning disk in the morning, but I doubt that will help, its only been a month). I have backups that go back to 505,000 exp and about 3 days (day 22 month of Cold Winds, year 1) but at the change of the year I am locked out (350,000 coppers). Any ideas? Congrats on the two-million, it shows there is hope for the rest of us! thanks, Stan [samwise, level 11 with magical crystal plate] #: 167650 SAMES 27-Aug-86 22:36:07 Sb: #167640-#ALTERNATE REALITY Fm: BURCH E. UPHAM 76210,1524 To: STAN KOPF 70426,647 (X) I'm inspired! I have 295000 exp pts and a magical flamesword and magical leatherarmor . i figure i will hit level 11 at about 303000 exp pts. have you found all of the guilds. I've found only 12. how do youjoin a guild? i found 4 in the sw quadrant, 4 in the ne quadrant, 2 inthe nw and 2 in the se ---help!!! #: 167653 S1/GAMES 27-Aug-86 23:25:38 Sb: #167640-#ALTERNATE REALITY Fm: DON WYMAN 72456,2717 To: STAN KOPF 70426,647 (X) The problem you are having with the banks is well known to me. I had the same experience. In the newsletter sent out by Datasoft, a cure is shown. You must just sit there and wait. The computer is calculating your interest. I waited for 20 min. or more at each bank. Just be patient. The program will recover by itself. Once you have done this, the problem will disappear. Don Wyman (thorex level 13: 2,100,000 exp. pts.) #: 167655 S1/GAMES 27-Aug-86 23:28:51 Sb: #ALTERNATE REALITY Fm: BURCH E. UPHAM 76210,1524 To: ALL HAS ANYONE BEEN ABLE TO JOIN A GUILD IN ALTERNATE REALITY? IF SO, WHAT ARE THE CHARACTER REQUIREMENTS? CAN YOU WIN THIS GAME WITH ONLY THE CITY DISKS? #: 167656 S1/GAMES 27-Aug-86 23:29:05 Sb: #167650-ALTERNATE REALITY Fm: DON WYMAN 72456,2717 To: BURCH E. UPHAM 76210,1524 (X) There are only 12 guilds accessible in the city. The other 2 are in the area sw of the Arena and will be accessible in the Arena disk. You may be able to join guilds in the Dungeon. At least that's the rumor. The Dungeon is due late Sept. '86. Good Luck. Don Wyman (thorex lvl. 13: 2,100,000 exp. pts.) #: 167659 S1/GAMES 27-Aug-86 23:31:53 Sb: #167655-ALTERNATE REALITY Fm: DON WYMAN 72456,2717 To: BURCH E. UPHAM 76210,1524 (X) You cannot join guilds or "win" the game in the City. There are about 5 more sections coming. The Dungeon, Arena, Palace, Wilderness, Revelations, and Destiny. Hang in there, there's a long road ahead. Don Wyman. #: 167660 S1/GAMES 27-Aug-86 23:39:25 Sb: #167451-Alternate Reality Fm: DON WYMAN 72456,2717 To: WILLIAM C. RODAWALT 72327,3656 (X) Bill; You are missing the Green Wizard's academy in the NW quadrant. It is NE of MOM's bar and just north of Ono goods. It's hidden. Just bump the walls. The longsword is a superior weapon to the sword. Apparently even a Magical Sword. Trial and error here. Ghost's can be tricked or charmed. I never had problems killing them with Mag. Longsword or Mag. Battle Hammer or Mag. Flamesword. ?????? Don Wyman (thorex level 13) #: 167686 S1/GAMES 28-Aug-86 11:06:23 Sb: #Arrgh-Alternate Reality Fm: Groove 71320,1130 To: Don Wyman FINALLY broke 10000 exp points, with nothing more than a dagger! HAHA (My sense of accomplishment is way up there...) BUT my character is Diseased, Hungry, Thirsty, and Poisoned with weak poison (that was MY fault) and I haven't even found a Healer! Where are they??? When you get up to those sky high levels, does it still give you 1 pt. of Str, Chr oops etc? Or do you get 76 str, 47 int, etc with potions??? (and guilds, of which I've only located 2...) The toughest guy I fought was an assassin, gave me 4 pots and some gold, did me no good cause I was completely lost! In other words, I NEED YOUR MAPS!!! I've tried, but... I discovered something you may want to investigate, tho, it's in my message on the Gamers forum... Do be kind to poor and blind, see well out beyond your eyes.... By the way, if you keep buying rounds of drinks at taverns, (like 5) when you're hungry/thirsty, they'll give you food FREE! HAAHAHAHA (Sorry, it's driving me CRAZY!) I'm gonna give up on that char. and start anew... Now that you're gone, some will grieve on, on and on, I know you'll be back again, maybe next time, will be the time, you WIN.....! (Let me know when ya get the dungeons...) #: 167739 S1/GAMES 28-Aug-86 23:50:36 Sb: #167686-Arrgh-Alternate Reality Fm: DON WYMAN 72456,2717 To: Groove 71320,1130 (X) Sounds like you've got a bad case of AR fever. Too bad. Long hours and lots of frustration. I left a msg. about the maps on the Gamers Sig. Just leave me a msg. on Easy Plex and I will give you the info to order. You will probably get 1 str. pt. every 10,000 or so exp. sometimes you get a chr. or int. pt. When you go from 1 level to the next, most of your stats will go up. I now have 28 STA, 59 CHR, 210 STR, 57 INT, 28 WIS, and 28 SKL pts. with 192 hit pts. All started under 20. Don Wyman. (thorex level 13; 2,100,000 exp. pts.) #: 167741 S1/GAMES 28-Aug-86 23:55:15 Sb: Alternate Reality Fm: DON WYMAN 72456,2717 To: AR players I have just completed 12 months in the city. The months are as follows: Rains (month I entered the City) Sowings First Fruits Harvest Final Reaping The Fall Darkness Coldwinds Light Rebirth Awakening Winds Don Wyman (thorex lvl. 13: 2,100,000 exp. pts.) #: 167751 S1/GAMES 29-Aug-86 00:30:28 Sb: #167653-ALTERNATE REALITY Fm: STAN KOPF 70426,647 To: DON WYMAN 72456,2717 (X) Thanks for the help again, I will show more patience at the banks (all 3 have me locked-up). Didn't know there was a newsletter from Datasoft, my disks came without a card, only a note saying I should return the card! And the box was still sealed in plastic, guess I will send them a letter. Well, back to battling, I hope to make level 12 in the wee hours of this morning, strength is up to 81 and intelligence to 48, if only I could find that FLAMESWORD I will be complete! Stan #: 167754 S1/GAMES 29-Aug-86 00:33:49 Sb: #ALTERNATE REALITY Fm: MIKE OWEN 73317,1406 To: DON WYMAN 72456,2717 (X) I AM A NEW PLAYER AND CAN'T GET PAST DYING OF SCURVY IN THE FIRST FEW MINUTES OF THE GAME; UTILIZING A NEW OR TEMPORATY CHARACTER. WHERE IS THE HEALER?!!! >>>>>>>>>>>>HELP<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< #: 167756 S1/GAMES 29-Aug-86 00:42:28 Sb: #167754-ALTERNATE REALITY Fm: STAN KOPF 70426,647 To: MIKE OWEN 73317,1406 (X) Try recopying all of your disks and cleaning your drives if necessary. I occasionally get scurvy when I restart a game after a lot of wear on the city disks, it always clears when I recopy the disks. Also, if you get started with a good character, make several copies of the character (hit 's' to save as soon as you can) this gives you several chances to salvage a character with good stats but bad enough luck to meet Knights and Guards from the start...(I lost my first SAMWISE withh all stats above 18 before I learned this). The nearest healer is hidden about 8 blocks south of the western gate. good-luck Stan [Samwise level 11] #: 167758 S1/GAMES 29-Aug-86 00:44:18 Sb: #ALTERNATE REALITY Fm: Jeff Hand 76556,3402 To: Don Wyman 72456,2717 (X) Don, I was talking to another AR player on a BBs on he said that he had quaffed a potion of Invul. Magic. He could not give color, etc. Have you run into this potion. He said he's run across it twice. I did'nt think to ask what kind of system he was running. Jeff (jorel lvl 13 > #: 167759 S1/GAMES 29-Aug-86 00:48:37 Sb: ALTERNATE REALITY Fm: STAN KOPF 70426,647 To: BURCH E. UPHAM 76210,1524 (X) Glad to hear you got your FLAMESWORD (wish I could find one!). You still need to upgrade your armor (magic crystal plate is the best, and elfin chain second). I avoided any magic armor less thchain, banded or plate. If you can afford it, buy Plate Mail, it served me well until about 450,000 points when I found the MAGIC CRYSTAL PLATE. Check in this SIG regularly to get good tips on AR, and good luck again! Stan #: 167851 S1/GAMES 30-Aug-86 00:06:08 Sb: #167758-#ALTERNATE REALITY Fm: DON WYMAN 72456,2717 To: Jeff Hand 76556,3402 (X) Jeff; I haven't seen the Inv. Magic potion but I think that Inv. Cleric would have the same effect. Have you tried Noticeability potion (yellow, bitter, caution)? Since I took it I can't go 2 squares without an encounter. Lots of action and treasure. Really go up fast on Exp. pts. Don Wyman (thorex level 13; 2,200,000 exp. pts. #: 167852 S1/GAMES 30-Aug-86 00:10:56 Sb: #167754-ALTERNATE REALITY Fm: DON WYMAN 72456,2717 To: MIKE OWEN 73317,1406 (X) If you are coming up with Scurvy you have one of the following problems: 1. A bad disk. Send it back to Datasoft. 2. A non-Atari (1050 or 810) drive. Send disk to Datasoft. 3. A pirate copy. Tough luck!!! #: 167872 S1/GAMES 30-Aug-86 04:37:05 Sb: #ALTERNATE REALITY Fm: JOHN GARTMAN 72327,1545 To: A.R. PLAYERS HOWDY, I HAVE BEEN PLAYING A.R. FOR ABOUT 4 MOS. NOW ,I FINALY GOT A CHARACTER TO LEVEL 8 51,000 POINTS. I HAVE GOT ALOT OF USEFUL INFO FROM YOU GUYS THANKS. BUT NOW THE PROBLEM I HAVE IS I CAN'T GET ANY GOOD POTIONS,NO GOOD SPOILS FROM ENCOUNTERS,AND ANY POTIONS I DO GET DISAPEAR. ANY MAGICAL WEPONS ARE ALMOST ALWAYS CURSED. MAX-1 LVL8 BEARLY ALIVE ANY SUGESTIONS WOULD BE WELCOME. THANKS ?EX #: 167914 S1/GAMES 30-Aug-86 22:17:38 Sb: #167872-ALTERNATE REALITY Fm: Floyd Walker 72247,36 To: JOHN GARTMAN 72327,1545 (X) Congrats on reaching Lvl. 8! Just reached it myself about 3 or so days ago. A good tip for potions: When you get 3-5 pots., save your character, dup the char disk, reload char, and start by Unsealing then Quaff-ing the potion(s). If you get a bad potion, just re-copy the char disk and try again. Might take a while before you get a treasure finding potionor something almost as good. Happy Hunting! Floyd Walker Traalfonz (8+) #: 167933 S1/GAMES 30-Aug-86 23:44:24 Sb: #167872-#ALTERNATE REALITY Fm: DON WYMAN 72456,2717 To: JOHN GARTMAN 72327,1545 (X) John; Try being nicer. It sounds like you've been a "bad" boy. Don Wyman. #: 167951 S1/GAMES 31-Aug-86 04:13:36 Sb: #167933-#ALTERNATE REALITY Fm: Fran Bonito 76626,137 To: DON WYMAN 72456,2717 (X) HELP!!!! Brown mold has gotten me...now I'm diseased, poisoned, and not to mention, tipsy. I need a healer and haven't been able to find one. PLEASE direct me to the nearest MD...I'm at Da Place. Thanks. B.B. Level 8, 63,000+ (and trying to hold on). P.S.: Aren't any other ladies hooked on this game?? #: 167986 S1/GAMES 31-Aug-86 15:50:35 Sb: #167650-ALTERNATE REALITY Fm: MIKE CARPICK 73217,1527 To: BURCH E. UPHAM 76210,1524 I am in need of some SERIOUS help! I only have 5,000. I only found 6 guilds. Am having problems. Oh, well. Do you know if the Closed by Order of the Palace can ever be re-opened. Xebec 5,000 l.v.5 #: 167991 S1/GAMES 31-Aug-86 16:00:05 Sb: #167686-Arrgh-Alternate Reality Fm: MIKE CARPICK 73217,1527 To: Groove 71320,1130 (X) The early morning turns into early day, A sunset comes they take the colors away Where you are Alternate Reality I found six of 'em and I'm only at 5000! Try looking for sec. doors! The hardest I ever lived thru was a wizard, the hardest ever a green dragon. A bit like home yet unmistakably new A morning rain then evening stars come and view This is your Alternate Reality Also, WHAT IS A $#'$#@$#@'" FLAMESWORD! And how can ya get 81 str!!!!!!47 int! ????????????????????????????????????? You walk around each corner hoping to see A way to get back home a way to break free And to leave Alternate Reality Ok, thanx for the help I hope to get(but not too much, I like doing it alone, just WHATS A FLAMESWORD??????!!?!??!?!!) This is your Alternate Reality (c) ----------------------------------------(c) Indicateslyrics Copywright Gary Gilbertson 1984 or 1985(don't remember ) Xebec(cute, eh?) 5,000 #: 167992 S1/GAMES 31-Aug-86 16:07:38 Sb: #167851-#ALTERNATE REALITY Fm: MIKE CARPICK 73217,1527 To: DON WYMAN 72456,2717 (X) Yo, Galvatron(My friend) got deluded and doesn't know how to undo it! How??? Paws and claws could be the cause of anyone heres demise... Xebec Galvatron 5,000 5,000 lv. 5 lv. 5 40,000 cp ?????????? cp #: 167994 S1/GAMES 31-Aug-86 16:11:42 Sb: #167872-#ALTERNATE REALITY Fm: MIKE CARPICK 73217,1527 To: JOHN GARTMAN 72327,1545 (X) Anyone know how to get spells? Please? Armor, this we have for you We do Armor, Tools of death we have those too Swords, worth much more than you pay Swords, to hold evil at bay Xebecc (oooooppps) Xebec 5,000 #: 168021 S1/GAMES 31-Aug-86 20:27:33 Sb: #167951-ALTERNATE REALITY Fm: DON WYMAN 72456,2717 To: Fran Bonito 76626,137 (X) Fran; Go to the city square and turn west. Go to the end of the street and follow the path to the left (south). When you get to the first long passage heading south, bump the walls on your left. The first wall should open. Look around there and you will see 3 doors. Face the center one and enter the one to the left. Turn left and go straight. This should take you to the AlphaOmega Healers. Or take an Amber, Plain, Caution potion for the poison and a Clear, Acidic, Caution potion for the Disease. If you haven't already, look in the DL2 games area for my potions list. Yes there are other women players. Just don't run across them that often. Don Wyman Thorex level 13: 2,300,000 exp. pts.