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Dear OL' HACKERS, Re: 24 PIN DOT MATRIX PRINTERS WITH TEXT: From the information I have been able to D}glean from various sources, a 24-pin dot matrix printer will work OK with our Atari machines as long as you are only D}|Vol: he ||Issue: || (}   ||Is your N/L  Get famous||Article  write an ||ready for(}  article ||publication?  for OHAUG!||   || (} ||  ||--> <--|| (}  ||  || Atari User Group Inc.(c)1985 |*** Alex Pignato, Pre(}sident ****** 3376 Ocean Harbor Drive ****** Oceanside, N.Y. 11572 ***(}|Charter Member NEAR*US ATARI USER Gp.|| 򠱹 |(}|Charter Member NEAR*US ATARI USER Gp.|| 㮠 |(***********************************OL' HACKERS WHOS WHO ? ? ? ? ? ? ?PRESIDENT..............Alex PignatoVICE-PRESIDENT.,}.......Jack GedaliusSECRETARY................Ron FetzerTREASURER................Ron FetzerBLANK DISK SALES.........Ron ,}FetzerLIBRARIAN.............Harold PeglerDISK NEWSLETTER EDITOR.Alex PignatoLEGAL-COUNSEL........Jerry GinsbergEQUIPM,}ENT-MANAGER......Bob UlschmidMEMBERSHIP............Jack GedaliusINT'L CORRESPONDANT....Horst DewitzNEWSLETTER LIBRARIAN,}...Alan SharkisLIB. COPY MASTERS...Allen C. Atkins BOB UlschmidMAGAZINE LIBRARIAN....Jack Gedalius,}NOTE-[*] denotes change in position. *****(O.H.A.U.G.) is in no way associatedwith the ATARI Corp.,or ,}any of theirafffiliates, other than using a greatproduct. Atari and Atari relatedproducts are the Trademarks o,}f theirrespective companies and are used onlyas informational help to our membersand the Atari user in general. Opinio,}nsherein are not necessarily those ofO.H.A.U.G. but those of the variousindividual authors.O.H.A.U.G. is a ,} NOT-FOR-PROFITOrganization in the State of New York.O.H.A.U.G. will NOT tolerate ANYreferances, directly or by,} implicationto piracy or the use of any computerequipment for illegal activities.DEADLINES FOR NEWSLETTERJAN/F,}EB DEC 31 JUL/AUG JUN 30MAR/APR FEB 28 SEPT/OCT AUG 31MAY/JUN APR 30 NOV/DEC OCT 31 ,} Submitted articles are preferred asdisk text files, preferably made on the1ST XLENT Word Processor, in 38 c,}olumnsbut it will be gratefully accepted ashard copy. Send your articles, commentsto:OL' HACKERS Newsletterc/o A. Pign,}ato, Editor3376 Ocean Harbor DriveOceanside, N. Y. 11572.Please refer to the above schedule forOL' HACKERS NEWSLETTER,} |*|*|*| PRESIDENTS MESSAGE Today, as I write this, the snow is falling and the 12th snow 1} deadlines. ****end*****,&c domain. He has been an Atari enthusiast since 1983. OCATVIAN GRECU of Bucharest, Romania also joined us. Ocatvian5} /\/\/\/\ MINUTES OF FEBRUARY 1994 MEETING. ===================================== Our make up meet:i}going to do straight text with the printer's built-in type fonts, because the print pins are controlled by an internaD}l CPU to form their characters, not the word processor; therefore, they are OK for use with Atariwriter Plus, D}Paper Clip, Text Pro, 1st Xlent Word Processor, etc. The Epson LX printer driver should work with any of them. BD}UT NOT WITH GRAPHICS! These printers will 'NOT' however, work properly with Daisy Dots, Print Shop, BillD}board, or any other "text processor" that uses a printer's graphics mode to print text. And, you cannot dowD}nload external fonts to them, because their command set and paper advance commands are different than those of aD} 9-pin printer. BEN's WISH LIST! This is what BEN POEHLAND has been referring to in his DREAM STREET column in D} ATARI CLASSICS when he states that we need a DAISY DOT program with "correct aspect ratio" for a 24-pin printD}er. DAISY DOT uses a printer's graphics mode. Because of the different graphics commands between a 9- and 24-pin D} machines, the 24 pin printers squash the characters and leave a horizonatal white streak between head passeD}s. Graphics on a 24-pin printer produce the same results. For instance, if you try to print a Koala picture with one D} of the graphic dump programs, a white streak is left across the page between each pass, and the picture gets compresD}sed vertically. A similar problem exists, to a much lesser extend, with a 9-pin printer when you convert a Print ShopD} icon to Daisy Dot III format, as evidenced by the graphics on my letterhead, however, in this case, the white stD}reak runs vertically through the icons, not horizonatally. MORE INFO FROM ANOTHER SOURCE! Information received D} from Jeff McWilliams indicates that the Epson Stylus 800 ink jet printer suffers from the same problems when used wD}ith an Atari machine. The Epson literature indicates that it has four scalable fonts; however, these can be useD}d only with a striaght word processor program that can send control codes to the printer, and the automatic D} line centering commands such as those in Atari Writer Plus (CNTRL-C) will 'NOT' automatically center scalable D}fonts. This is something that has to be claculated manually for each centered line, based on the size of the cD}haracters. In short, a real hit-and-miss affair. The Stylus will not do graphics, either (at least not on an 8-bD}it Atari). Another quirk of the Stylus is the 61-lines-per-page limitation instead of the normal 66 ines with otheD}r printers. This is due to the fact that the Stylus uses cut sheets, and needs enough extra margin at the top and bottD}om for the paper handling mechanism. WHAT IT DOESN'T WORK WITH: Needless to say, it will not work with any oD}f the graphics text processors, such as DAISY DOT, and you cannot download additional fonts to it, either. Another prD}oblem with scalable fonts is that they also expand vertically, and cut down on the number of lines per page. AtD}ari word processors are not going to realize this, however, and will still count a line printed in 36-point type as D} only a one page line, instead of three. This throws the pagebreak way off if you have a lot of these lines on a pageD} A CHALLENGE TO ALL! It sure would be nice if some smart OHAUG programmer, or anyone else for that matter, cD}ould come up with custom fonts and drives for a 24-pin printer and the Epson Stylus so they would work properly D}with DAISY DOT III. Modifying PRINT SHOP however, would probably be impossible, because you would also haD}ve to modify every icon. SAVE YOUR HARD EARNED BUCKS! I hope these answers help. Please feel free to D}put this information into an OHAUG newsletter, since I'm sure other members are curious about these new printersD}, too, and are leary of investing in one, only to find out that they have just thrown their money down the drainD}. YOUR MODEM AND ME: If you have a modem, I can be reached through any of the following (DELPHI is the leD}ast used by me): Compuserve: 73217,2321 GEnie : C.COLE1 DELPHI : COLESHED FidoNet D}: 1:309/35 (CHARLES COLE) Sincerly, Charles (Editor-Thanks Charles, we D} will spread the word to all our readers!) (Read that as "TO ALL OUR FRIENDS"!) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>END<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<}or printer mechanisms, especially the head bars on the 1027. MY OPINIONS. As you can see, this is a subje=?}ct in which I have quite a bit of experience and, consequently, some rather strong biases. I certainly won't say the=@} advice in your article is incorrect: only that it contradicts so many of my own biases that it would bother =A}my conscience to print it. Warmest regards, Ben Poehland >> <> << RON FETZER replies: I=B} have used the disk drives as described in the article of the OHAUG NEWSLETTER of JAN/FEB 1994 for over a year without a=C}ny trouble. The advice BEN gives is wothwhile. I will limit the use of the fans only during long c=D}opy sessions. And finally I will use ONLY "LUBE-GEL" inside the drives. The INDUS disk drive modificatio=E}n that BEN suggests is also much easier to do. I thank BEN POEHLAND for the many great suggestions and worthw=F}hile procedures and for reviewing my article. (Ed. Thanks for both views!) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>END<<<<<<<<<<<<<< >> HOW TO PREPARE A PROFESSIONAL TREASURER'S REPORT THE BEST EASY WAY WITH TURBOBASIC! by AH}Ron Fetzer, member of OL' HACKERS ATARI USERS GROUP, Inc., NY (For XL/XE only!---Program will be found on this OHAUGAI} newsletter, as "TREASRPT.ARB!) NO VOLUNTEERS? Do you belong to a Computer Club, Civic Association, Sports AJ}Club or a Charitable Organization and have difficulty in finding someone to accept the position of TREASURER? Are yoAK}ur club's finances in a mess? Is your treasurer's report written on the back of an old envelope? We now have helpAL} for you. Just use the "TREASURER'S REPORT PROGRAM" and your troubles will be over. FINDING A TREASURER THE EASY WAYAM}! The program makes it so easy to be a treasurer of a club that you will have no problem finding a volunAN}teer. The program prints a professional report that is easy to read without being an accountant. The program is wrAO}itten in modular TURBO BASIC XL and runs only on the Atari XL/XE computers. THE SOLUTION. The "TREASURER'S REPOAP}RT" is very intuative and easy to use. Most likely you don't even have to read the docs. It is also heavily erAQ}ror protected to prevent typo mistakes and wrong entries. The program accepts up to 200 income items and up to AR}200 expense items. The program is completely menu driven, and the menu is self explanatory. You have 8 iteAS}ms on the menu. They are: 1. DIRECTORY, 2. START PROGRAM, 3. VIEW ON SCREEN, 4. PRINT, 5. SAVE, 6. LOAD, 7. ERASE AT} A FILE, 8. END. Since I am the Treasurer of the OL' HACKERS I put everything in the program that I wantAU}ed as a treasurer. HOW TO: To use the program you go to option #2 on the menu "START PROGRAM". After AV} the menu screen you come to the "INFORMATION SCREEN". Here you answer some prosaic questions like today's AW} date, your name, the clubs name etc. When you are finished, you will be in the "INCOME" section. You enter AX} one income item after the other in the program. First you enter a description of the income item and thAY}en the amount of the income. Do not use a comma (,) or "$" in the entries. When you are finished with the incomeAZ} items and you want to go to the "EXPENSE" section of the program just leave the "INCOME NAME" blank and enter "0A[}0" for the INCOME AMOUNT". There will be a prompt at the bottom of the screen to remind you of this. You can eveA\}n type in a name for this last item such as "END" etc. It will not be recorded by the program because you entered "00" A]}for the amount. The "EXPENSE" section works exactly like the "INCOME" section. You just enter all the expensA^}e items. When you are finished you enter "00" for the amount and you will be directed to the menu again. WANT TA_}O SEE/PRINT IT? You now can view your program on the screen or print it. You can also save it to a disk. In theA`} SAVE, LOAD and ERASE A FILE options you just have to enter a file name without a disk drive designation. TheAa} program assumes that it is drive #1. A loaded file can only be "VIEWED" or "PRINTED". With the "VIEW ON SCREEN" optAb}ion I put convenient scrolling stops into the program so you can examine the report in an intelligent manner. With thiAc}s option all the basic information is displayed on the screen. With the "PRINT" option you get a fully formatteAd}d professional treasurer's report printed out on paper. It wil have your clubs name as the headline, the date of theAe} report, the old balance and the date, the income and expense items and a running current balance. It will alsoAf} show you the "TOTAL INCOME" as well as the "TOTAL EXPENSES" on your report. The penultimate item will be the neAg}w balance and its date. The final item on your report will be the name of the person who prepared the report. You caAq}B%DOS SYSB*)DUP SYSBSAUTORUN SYSBTAUTORUN COMBURAMDISK COMBXHELP DOCBkMAINMENUHLPB;sNEWSLTR BASBPRESSPRTMNUBFMEETDATTXTBWELCOME SCRBBWHO TXTBCPRESMESTXTB[DJANMIN TXTBIEFEBMIN TXTBIGFANREPLTXTB1GHTREASRPTXTB)IPRNT24 TXTBJBLACKJACBASB KLETTER TXTB~DLREAD BASBJDLREAD TXTBULPICNIC TXTBMJOYSTCKTXTHiEFEBMIN PRTn also specify how many copies of the report you want to print. WANT TO SEE THE DIRECTORY? Also take a lAr}ook at the "DIRECTORY" option. It gives you much more information than just a directory listing. I includAs}ed a provision to erase MEM.SAV in the RAM DISK D8 in order to give you more free RAM space. This option also At}checks what REVESION BASIC you are using. Since TURBO BASIC XL is not a built in BASIC the directory option says "NOAu} BS". There are many other features that you will see with this option. WHICH PRINTER WILL WORK! The program isAv} written for EPSON and compatible printers. If your printer is not compatible you can easily change the few printAw}er control codes to your printer's codes. They are clearly indicated in line #1330 - 1380. If you live in a country othAx}er than the U.S.A. you might want to change the "$" to your country's currency symbol. The "$" appears in lineAy}s 530, 630, 790, 1000, 1010, 1040, 1120, 1130, 1160, 1170, 1520, 1580, 1600, 1640, 1670, 1690 and 1700. This Az} is to make the program useable to our members in other countries as well. HOW TO MAKE FRIENDS-EVEN OF YOUR WIFEA{} If you or your wife or someone you know belongs to a club or an organization then give them the "TREASUA|}RER'S REPORT" program, they will love it. Being a treasurer with this program makes the job easy. Not only will you sA}}ave a lot of time but you also will receive compliments on the clarity and completness of your treasurer's reports. IA~}n addition you did not have to struggle with spread sheets, data bases, check balancing programs and calculators. You cA}an now sit back and enjoy your club and bask in the prestige of having a job well done. BRAVO: (Ed. Once again RON haA}s come in with a winner. 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A %6-/ A;I} 6-6-6-@'6-@1 A; A L* "DEALER HAS BLACKJACK YOU LOSE YOURL(INSURANCE MONEY AND SAVI}E BET.-AA0-2@@A-@@E I k2u API}6-@$?. &YOU DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO INSURE<( YOUR BET.?$(8 A8 %DEALER DID NOT GET BLACKJACKI} YOU LOSE27* "INSURANCE MONEY AND HAND CONTINUES4 AP7$<:-@0  BLACKJACK.68,-@P$:6-@AI}u-@@P-2@@A-@@E I k2u A0F?-@I}@?  YOU  BEFORE LOSING!K.-@@. YOU ARE OUT OF MONEYP!! WISH TO PLAY AGAINI} (Y/N)?Z)@6-8,d"@A0n$"@!AR$x ApD:BLACKJAC.BAJ#} <=>=<=> DISPLAY LIST READER =================== By John Foskett, printed by TU}HE OL' HACKERS AUG, with thanks. WHAT IS IT? The DISPLAY LIST READER will read any of the internal displayU} lists up to mode 47 (15+32) and print it onto the screen. All display lists are printed in 10 columns of 21 statemU}ents in each, enough for the largest to be printed to a single screen. SCREEN/SAVE Once a display list isU} printed on the screen, pressing START will write it to disk in the form of basic data in the LIST format. The fileU} name used is "DISPLAY.X", were X is the mode number selected. Pressing OPTION exits back to the title screenU}. SCREEN DATA Important data is given at the top of the screen as follows.... PEEK(560) Starting address- low bU}yte PEEK(561) Starting address- high byte PEEK(87) "DINDEX" current mode ADDRESS Starting address MODE SU}elected mode TOTAL Total number of statements HOW THE PROGRAM WORKS The program works by selecting the choU}sen mode and loading the display list data into an array, reselecting mode zero and printing the data on the U}screen. WHERE ARE THEY? The display lists are located by PEEK(560)+256*PEEK(561) in the normal way and ends two adU}dress bytes after detecting the number "65". The number "65" is always found in a display list three bytes from the eU}nd. INTO PAGE SIX (as usual) A lined screen is used for clarity which is generated by a custom displaU}y list loaded into page 6. <<>><<>><<>> is used for clarity which is generated by a custom displaT6 **** February 2, 1994 THE PACESETTER c/o JEAN BROKAW, EditM}or LARGO, Florida 34641 OL' HACKERS A.U.G., Inc. 3376 Ocean harbor Dr. Oceanside, N.Y. 11572 Att: ALEXM} PIGNATO PRESIDENT Dear ALEX, I thought I would drop you a note to let you know how much I enjoy your clubs nM}ewsletter disk. I have learned so much from it! RON FETZER is to be commended for his article (LIFE INSURANCEM} FOR YOUR DISK DRIVES) on the January/February 1994 Disk. It is an excellent overall portrayal of the sM}ubject, written in easy to understand language. I plan to use it in a future issue of our PACESETTER. CongM}ratulations to both you and RON. I think your newsletter is TOPS. Sincerly, JEAN BROKAW *****M} (ED. Thanks JEAN, coming from the Editor of the PACESETTER-an extremely well done and interesting newsletter, thats aM} compliment indeed! Yes, I too learn from reading yours-and also the many other newsletters we receive. Your ability tM}o attract many ladies to an 8 BIT club, makes me wonder how you folks do it-CONGRATULATIONS-A.P.)eceive. Your ability tLdstorm of the season is piling another 12 to 18 inches on top of the prior hardened snow on the ground. Everything has1} come to a halt. However, we, who have computers can escape the weather and travel through our files, be they Utilit1}ies, applications, games etc. This is the time to catch up on writing that program that has been buzzing arou1}nd in your head, or writing the outline of the great American novel. Mother nature has once again shown that1} she controls things after all. Tomorrows meeting must be called off. Over one foot of snow within 12 hours is a bit1} much! (We hope to have our meeting next Saturday.) Speaking now as Editor of this newsletter, let me give yo1}u a birds eye view of whats on tap. For those of you who are programmers, read the DOCS, and run "DLREAD", or "BA1}SIC COPY, and read "ERRORS", and "RETURNS". Check out the "ATASCIIC.ODE" program. Do you write let1}ters, and hate to address envelopes? Try "MAILABEL.BAS" for easy printing, and for different labels too.1} For the gamers, try the upgraded "BLACKJAC.BAS". For the 'how to' people, there is another view on taking care of y1}our drives. Then there is an article on the 24 versus 9 PIN printers. Like to use the modem? Try the "SPACE LINK"1} article, for a new connection. Now for all you club treasurers, OHAUG brings you a new, user friendly and very usef1}ul program "TREASURER REPORT", with DOCS, by our RON FETZER, in TURBO BASIC. How about the 'newsletter revi1}ews? They bring you all kinds of info about the 8 BIT world. I think you will find a true cross section of things for a1}ll 8 BIT'ers. Which brings me once again to the value of belonging to a club/group. It is about the onl1}y way to really learn whats what in the 8 BIT community. Renewal time for OHAUG is basically in January of each year. 1}We make it a point to try to answer ALL letters from any of our members, which gives us a warm feeling of closenes1}s. Our far away friends see to it that we receive disks full of new programs, which I'm sure we would not see otherw1}ise. To them I say, THANKS Your input does make OHAUG a unique repository for 8 BIT info and programs. We had1} our Annual JULY PICNIC and CHRISTMAS dinner, attended by 22 people, and all seem to have enjoyed both the excelle1}nt (and very reasonably priced) full course meal and the friendly atmosphere which we created. As usual, our offi1}cial CAM- CORDER photographer, JACK GEDALIUS, took pictures of the group. We enjoyed it all, so much so,that as w1}e were leaving JUDITH PEGLER suggested we go back to having our JULY BAR-B- QUE in this same restaurant next JULY.1} (grin) A quick vote was taken and it was approved unanimously. I'm looking forward to the next friendly get together.1} Thats about it for now, and for those of you into MODEMING,... BYE...(NO CARRIER)! |*|*|*|.0| =-=-= USING THE JOYSTICK TO READ TEXT! MOD by JOHN McGOWAN Useing the JOYSTIC^R} was in the USA in 1988 and at that time he bought a 130XE and a 1050 disk drive. Welcome all. I think you will m5}ake many new friends and have a good time in the club. DONATIONS The OL' HACKERS mailed $25.00 to the RED CROSS5} for the relief of the earthquake victims in California BBS SUPPORT The OL' HACKERS mailed a check for $15.00 t5}o THE MACHINE BBS, Sysop LOU, (516) 765-5748 and also to the NEW NEST BBS, SySop JIM, (516) 234- 4943 00 as a token 5}of appreciation for their continued support of the 8- Bit computer. Our thanks to both SySops. Both are OHAUG member5}s. Call them there is a wealth of 8 BIT stuff waiting for you. CORRESPONDENCE: We received a package from our 5}Scotish member STUART MURRAY. He wrote to us two days before Christmas. He tells us that he enjoys the new6}sletter. He mailed us FUTURA ISSUE #10. Thanks for the invitation to next years 2 AMS Shows in England for the 8 BIT. 6}Any takers? He wants an ALF UNCRUNCH PROGRAM. (SUPER UNARC by Bob Puff will UN-ALF a program)-He mailed us two surprise p6}ackages. One was a Scotish Calendar and the other one was some of the local spirit water for ALEX, RON and HAROL6}D. He said we should have a dram (shot) on him for the New Year. We did and the local spirit water is VERY FINE I6}NDEED! (GLEN FIDICH SCOTCH). He extended his best wishes to all of the members of the OL' HACKERS. ALEX repli6}ed that his gifts are sure very novel. The calendar and the spirit water came as a real surprise. We have to now think o6}f what kind of American novelty we can mail to him. ALEX also wrote that we do not have any 8 Bit only shows in the6} USA. HAROLD our librarian is going to mail Bob Puff's SUPER ARC/UNARC program to STUART. A letter from JOHN JOHN6}SON our member in Oregon. He writes us that he likes the newsletter. He has a suggestion for the newsletter. He6 } asks that we should always include in the minutes, the library number of the disks we demo. It makes it easier to ord6 }er. We will TRY to do this JOHN! Yours was the second request for the correction, see Jan/Feb newsletter. 6 } A letter from our newest member, NORMAN C. WILLIAMSON from Sutton, Surrey, England. He writes us that he lives on6 }ly a few miles from Buckingham Palace. He tells us he is happy to join our club. NORMAN got our address from6 } ED HALL in Canada. He mailed us two disk with his programs on it. (See demo section). ALEX replied that he 6}was very pleased to hear from such a prolific programmer. He said we were very pleased that he joined our other ver6}y capable programmers such as RON FETZER, TOM ANDREWS, CHARLES COLE, BEN POEHLAND and on and on. ALEX wrote6} that the two disk we received from him were extremely well done and ALEX liked the many novel ways of writing his p6}rograms. ALEX wrote to DANIEL CARRODANO our member in France. He thanked him for making a TEXTPRO and DD3 disk,6} per ALEX's request. He also thanked him for the detailed explanation on how to use it. He congratulated DANIEL6} on his knowledge of the 8 Bit computer. A letter to BOB ULSCHMID from JIM CUTLER from England. He writes tha6}t it was very nice to hear from BOB. He tells BOB he had a quiet Christmas. That is just the way he likes it. 6} They had 5 cm (2 in.) of snow around Christmas and also a lot of flooding in other parts of England. Mother nat6}ure strikes again! A letter from FRANK KUZLOSKI our member and librarian of LIAUG 8-BIT section. He tells us th6}at he uses TEXTPRO to index the library. He made a MACRO for TEXTPRO which does the heavy work of cataloging of t6}he files. He sent us a copy of the library file and said if we want anything to swap he will be glad to do 6}it. He tells us that the OL' HACKERS NEWSLETTER is the best! Thanks FRANK. We think so too. ALEX ans6}wered him by congratulating him on becoming the 8- BIT librarian. ALEX stated that HAROLD will look over th6}e list and order anything we want. A letter from our member DAVID LANG in Defiance Ohio. DAVID ordered the CALEN6}DAR DISK. He writes us that he awaits our newsletter with great expectation and excitement every other month to se6}e what is new in the 8-BIT world. A letter from "I CAME BACK" DALE WOOSTER, President of N.W.P.A.C. DALE again assum6}ed the helm of the NWPAC group for another year. He and some other members are going to run the club with new rules6} and procedures, making it an even better club than it already is!! He mailed us their CHRISTMAS DISK. We saw it l6 }ast month. A great disk, and very well done! DOOR PRIZES JACK GEDALIUS BOB ULSCHMID HAROLD PEGLER ALLEN ATKINS JOE L6!}EBER SPECIAL DRAWING AL ATKINS drew some special lottery tickets for a gift to the club, donated by JOH6"}N HARDIE. ALEX had given AL ATKINS his tickets for AL to hold. The drawing was won by guess who??? That's right...o6$}SY/N)?Z)@6-8,d"@A0n$"@!AR$x ApD:BLACKJAC.BAHur own ALEX PIGNATO and it was a 7800 ATARI GAME SYSTEM with some game cartridges. (I think this was fixed 6%}somehow!! (grin) THANKS JOHN FOR YOUR GENEROSITY. DEMOS RON FETZER showed his new program called "TREASURER'6&}S REPORT". This is a great new program that saves you a TON of time if you are a clubs treasurer. No more calculato6'}rs, spreadsheets, data bases etc. It does it all! You just enter your income and expenses and then you can see you6(}r report on the screen or print it. You can also save and load your report. You have a provision to erase a wrong ent6)}ry. It is written in TURBO BASIC. It can handle up to 200 income and expense items. See the article on the "TREASURER'S 6*} REPORT" program elsewhere in this newsletter. The program itself is on this disk as "TREASRPT.ARB". The exte6+}nder .ARB makes it a self booting program if you use the newer version of TURBO BASIC. If you order the disk you g6,}et the self booting program, the new TURBO BASIC and the complete docs. It is library disk # 444 RON FETZER al6-}so showed how to use the R-TIME-8 clock from ICD with DOS 2.5. He created a disk that puts the Z Handler automatically6.} on the disk as the disk is formatted and also puts RAMDISK.COM, DOS.SYS and DUP.SYS on the disk at the same time6/}. RON also showed a program to set the clock in BASIC that he wrote. The program is called "CLOCKSET". The disk 60}is library # 443. ALEX showed the WEATHER WIZARD program by NORMAN WILLIAMSON our newest member from Englan61}d. It is library #433. ALEX printed out the docs and passed them around. They were very complete. We were ver62}y impressed by the way NORMAN created the title screens for his program. The screens were unique and also had sound63} with it. The program prints out various cloud types that appear in the sky. It also prints out YOUR actual weathe64}r forecast. It has now been modified from 1 to 5 integrated programs on weather. It is a whole disk devoted to weath65}er and weather forecasting. On side two of this disk are MISCELLANEOUS programs by NORMAN. On it he has a program to h66}elp with typing the ATASCII codes (CHR$ etc.) and inverse characters. A great aid in programming. We saw a 2nd 67} disk by NORMAN called MISCELLANEOUS PROGRAMS II. Library # 434. We saw a program which made different flags on th68}e screen and it played the national anthem of each flag selected. A great gaphics program! There were many other grea69}t utilities on the disk. A great disk to get. We saw a disk called MAX HEADROOM. It is library disk #436:}5. Side 1 has 2 games. It also has demos on this side. On Side two is GHOSTLY GOBLINS. Next we saw FUTURA DISK #10 6;}from Scotland NOSAG - NOV/DEC 1993. It is our library disk #436. On side one is a lot of text and docs. We saw a game ca6<}lled MERRY MIX. It is a game similar to CONCENTRATION - a very nice game. The graphics and sound on the game w6=}ere great. On this disk was also an article on the AMS 7- 8-BIT fair in England. Also DISKCOM 3, PICLOADER.BAS, 6>}TRIVIA.DOC, MINE HUNTER. Another LOADED disk from Scotland with unusual programs and great games. He also r6?}eviewed the TURBO-BASIC FLYER which was published by yours truly some years ago and some of the programs from t6@}hat newsletter. We saw a game called THINK AND WORK from Germany translated by the busy bees at N.W.P.A.C. Side 6A} one is the English version. Side two is the German version. A game with many levels, and great graphics. Library6B} disk #437. A disk from S.L.C.C. - Jan. 1994. It has BILLBOARD.BAS.(Modified for XMM801 and Gemini 10X print6C}ers, by our TOM ANDREWS). DISKLAB.LE5, DOUBLE.DD3(MOD). There are many more utilities on this disk. It is our li6D}brary disk #438. It also has games such as DOUBLE6.BAS, BACKGAMMON FOR TWO, MIND.BAS, ROBOTS.BAS, STINGRAY and some o6E}thers. A good disk We saw the PRINTLAB disk. This disk lets you create various size labels and book labels with6F} all kinds of print sizes and pictures (62 sectors). This is library disk #439. Again a great disk to have. N6G}ext we saw a disk that was mailed to us by our member JOSEPH HICSWA from N.J. - JACG. On it is EARTN.BAS, E6H}RASE.VAR, HAPPYB.BAS, MUSKIE.BAS, MECDOC.TXT, MECDOS, UTILI.BAS, ALPHABET.BAS, ANIMAL.BAS, CHR$.BAS, DISOLVE.BA6I}S, COUNT.BAS, PUMPKIN, SHERLOCK, STRTRECK.BAS. It is a two sided disk with nothing but BASIC programs on it. It is 6J}library number #440. We saw a N.W.P.A.C. GAME DISK with PIPELINE, PLOP and HYAMS.ADV and other games. It is i6K}n our library disk #441. We saw a program called ARTIST UNLEASHED. It is on one disk and it is a drawing progr6L}am. It is library disk #442. GERMAN DOS SPEAK- (a conversation actually overheard at this meeting??) Vas ist das?6M} Das ist MYDOS! Das ist YOUR DOS? Nein dis ist MYDOS! Das DOS ist nicht SPARTA DOS? Nein, Dis DOS ist MYDOS, DUMBKOP6N}F! Vas ist das nexte DOS? Nexte DOS ist SUPER DOS? Vat DOS is da bestest DOS? Das bestest DOS ist das beste DOS 6O}for mein HERR, JA? Any valid contribution to GERMAN DOS SPEAK will be published in this newsletter. Mail you contri6P}bution to Das HERR RON FETZER or Das HERR ALEX PIGNATO - Das ist alles fuer das DOS! Think up some good ones!!! 6Q} Submitted by Ron Fetzer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>END<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Any valid contribution to GERMAN DOS SPEAK will be4DK while reading the text on the screen. After reading all the text on the screen, you go to the next page by hitting^S} the RED BUTTON. To read the next article, just pull the JOYSTICK toward you while text is scrolling down t^T}he screen. =-=-=next article, just pull the JOYSTICK toward you while text is scrolling down t\# ***** OL' HACKER'S ANNUAL PICNIC On Friday, February 4, 1994, the annual picnic for the Ol' HaZV}ckers was held at Mimmo's restaurant in Rockville Centre. Our old-time members will know the significance oZW}f the term "picnic" instead of dinner, but for any new-comers, I will explain. A number of years ago (pleaZX}se don't ask the number), we were planning a summer picnic, and finding a suitable place became such a hassle, thaZY}t it was suggested to have a dinner instead. So, that's exactly what happened, and these annual dinners haZZ}ve been called "picnics" ever since! In attendance were Alex (The Prez) and his wife Marie, Alex's daughtZ[}er Gayle and her husband John, Alex's other daughter Diane and her friend John. Just as an aside, did you notice Z\} that both of Alex's daughters brought Johns to the affair? Also in attendance were Harold Pegler and hiZ]}s wife Edith, Harry Tuthill by himself (was very chummy with Harold through the evening; must have a deal goinZ^}g), Bob Ulschmidt and his wife Jean, Ron Fetzer and his wife Cathy, a more recent member, John Hardy and wifeZ_} Beverly (John was VP of the Alamo AUG in Texas. He had joined our club, and then disappeared for about a year, bZ`}ut now he's back. The rest of the diners were Al Atkins who came alone ( his wife Carrie was not feeling well Za}enough to attend), Al Sharkis and wife Anne, Jack Gedalius and wife Mary, and yours truly, Stan Schenfeld, and my wife Zb}Judy. All in all we had 22 people in attendance (Not bad)! There was much conversation and kibitzing among tZc}he guests, and all seemed to be enjoying the evening, amazingly, with minimum computer talk. The menu consistedZd} of Soup, salad, and an appetizer of Rigatoni a la Vodka. The main course (Entree for the connoisseurs) was a choice Ze}of Shrimp Parmagiana, Chicken Cardinale, or Veal Parmagiana. Desert was Italian Cheese-cake and coffee. Soda and/Zf}or drinks were available throughout the evening. There was also plenty of bread to go with the butter (gZg}rin!). The food was delicious, and in my humble opinion, I would say the "PICNIC" was a huge success. Zh} Stan Schenfeld *****umble opinion, I would say the "PICNIC" was a huge success. X1ing on February 19 was the result of a "FEW SPRINKLES OF SNOW" (18 inches) on the previous Saturday. (grin) CORRESPOND:j}ENCE: A letter from our SYSOP LOU TRAPANI thanking us for the check for the maintenance of the BBS "THE :l}!3:@:7<,,%A(,i hCR}-@@#C( WRITING MODE  DISPLAY LIST TO DISK rZ @@P(@ .٠R}ҠŠZ A0|c-&@"6-8,+6.=:,66-%B:,B!@gO(@Y A0c AR}/(@ &@/(@,Y (@@/-@@#Y($FILE IN LIST FORMAT R} EXIT# F:B2y,@A#%堛"&@$>6-6-%@(R}(@;(@D.>$ Y%2@@@46-G:@,V2R}Y$a A@*-@@#a(ERROR F:A, ENCOUNTERED EXIT R}# F:B2y,@A#%堛 +@@d1B7t@dCAYUAR}AFgAAFyAR@A1@ Az@<9A,;@,;@,R};@,M6. D:DISPLAY.P#d-@Sh"v%A6z M%6-F:A`,%AV$F:Aa,9%@@R}M%@@&L#(} display list reader7(WRITTEN BYL(JOHN FOSKETT0M,(R}$PLEASE ENTER THE MODE NUMBER;(  >--MAY@4:D/#@@R}K:/6-@NGAdAU")@3"AU*0= A`G APX("A&*0 A`( AR}b/6-&@H/ )!@ Al'67,.=:,#-@%@'(v3 A`6-%@'!@R}36-@ A/ 6-A:,6-K:@,/!@GA@$96-@R}6.(-@@/( 9 A ᠛mm112,32,66,64,156,0,2,32,2,0,2,0,2,0,2,0,2,0,2R},0,2,0,2,0,2,0,2,0,2,0,2,0,2,0,2,0,2,0,2,0,2,0,2,0,2,0,2,02,32,2,65,0,6 D:DLREAD.BAS,2,32,2,0,2,0,2,0,2,0,2,0,2Pblia and to LES ELLINGHAM the editor of THE NEW ATARI USER. He uses a 800XL with the original 64K memory but h:}e is thinking of upgrading it. He mailed us an upgraded version of the WEATHER WIZZARD and THE WHEEL OF FORTUNE :}(Library #433). The password on the disk is "OLHACKER". If you make 3 mistakes the program deletes itself. You ca:}n recover it by typing A=USR(58487) and then type in the correct password. He mailed us 3 disks. On the ga:}mes disk he mailed us a hard copy of the docs but they are also on the disk. We also received another game on the disk:} called BILL- BEN. All now in the LIBRARY! We received a letter from JOE HICSWA our member in N.J. He mailed us:} a disk with lots of interesting BASIC programs on it (See demo section) and an article on the 1st XLEnt Word:} Processor for newsletter ALEX talked to GEOFF GREENE of FLORAL PARK N.Y. ALEX mailed him a copy of the late:}st newsletter and some reprints about the OL' HACKERS and some programs. ALEX invited him to join our club. A :} letter from JIM CUTLER our member in England. He mailed us 3 more disks. One of them is BASIC VIEW. We will d:}emo it at our next meeting. A letter from DALE WOOSTER the president of NWPAC. He thanked us for mailing him :} the TREASURER'S REPORT DISK. They printed the docs right on the disk envelope. A neat idea. He also mailed us the :}January 94 DOM that they had just finished. He tells us their library is now 360 disks and they are going to use a TEXTP:}RO macro to put it in a hard copy. ALEX answered that is hard to top them. ALEX also mailed them a new disk in re:}turn. ALEX wrote to JOHN PICKEN of the GARDEN CITY ACE in B.C. in Canada in response to an article in their great n:}ewsletter the "XIO". He asked if it is possible to get a copy of JOHN'S "DOUBLE XL AND RAMDISK PROGRAM". JOHN has chas:}ed down the bugs in the program. He is not yet ready to put it in the P.D. but interested members can get a copy.:} VIDEO PRESENTATION JACK GEDALIUS our chronicler brought in the tape of all of our past ANNUAL DINNERS and:} showed them to us. Gosh,were we young in 1985! We saw some of the members that have left us. We had to listen to AL:}EX'S speeches again! At the LAST dinner meeting, ALEX made NO speeches! It was a nice retrospective look at the OL:}' HACKERS, and to see the founding fathers in the flesh. (So to speak) JAGUAR DEMO: JOHN HARDIE brought the JAG:}UAR, 4 game cartridges and a COLOR TV to the meeting. JOHN tells us he has it hooked up in his house to a 27 In. TV wi:}th stereo sound and "S VIDEO". He said it looks and sounds great. At the meeting we had to hook it up through t:}he RF antenna leads so it lost some of the resolution. The JAGUAR sells for $250.00 and it blows every other game:} machine out of the water. The sound and the graphics were absolutely astounding. The machine itself was very :}futurisitic looking as well as the keypad controller. The first game we saw was "CYBERMORPH" a game with shoot:}ing and fast action. You have to collect pods. The versatility of the keypad and the program is truly outstanding.:} The program talks to you in very realistic voice and gives you hints on playing. Each game cartridge has a 50 MEG :}RAM space. So you can imagine what can be programmed into these games. The next game we saw was "TRIPPE:}R MC FUR". It comes with a keypad overlay to help you play the game. You select the planets you want to play on. :}Each planet has a different situation. It is basically a shoot-em-up game. The next game was the "RAIDEN" ca:}rtridge and it is identical to the arcade version. It is a great game. The graphic effects are great and the sound is o:}utstanding too. The last game was a game similar to LEMMINGS. It is called "EVOLUTION". It was the best:} of the games. You have to move various men from one level to the other levels and you have to pick up things. The:} 3-D effect is great. The people learn as you play the game. It has 80 levels of play. The music was the best of:} all the games we saw. MORE DEMOS: Library disk #445. It has a digitized picture of BOB VILLA with sound, :} TRICKY TRACKS, TEXT VIEW, HEARTS (GAME), DEMO and PUZZLE PLEASURE. It is TWAUG #7 JAN./FEB 94 disk. A great di:}sk to get. We saw the DEMO program - OUTSTANDING! On side two we have CES text, DOCS etc. The next disk is NWPAC :}DOM JAN. 94. It is library number #446. It has "CROSSWORD MAGIC" on it. and on Side two was "CROSSWORD" by Mike Steffens.:} It is another fantastic program. It comes with the docs on the disk. A disk from SLCC FEB. 94. All games in B:}ASIC. About 10 or 12 games on this disk. On the back we have the JACG PSLABELS.BAS with PS UTILITIES. It makes fancy la:}bels with PS ICONS. It is library number #447. This is a great label program where you can use PS ICONS with your labels.:} This also prints DOUBLE HEIGHT text on your labels (type the letter then CNTL & the letter again to get the dou:}ble height letters.) Next we saw a game disk from our member NORMAN WILLIAMSON in England. This is library #4:}48. It is completely documented. The password is "OLHACKER". We forgot the joystick so we could not demo the g:}ames. NORMAN assures us that they are great games. Our librarian HAROLD PEGLER informs us that he has examined p:}revious programs from NORMAN and they are all great programs. HAROLD tells us that on disk #434-A by NORMAN th:}ere are some great tutorials on how to program sound effects in BASIC. He tells you how you can insert these soun:}ds into your BASIC programs. We had JOEL GEDALIUS, the son of JACK play a math game. He selected multiplication:} (level - hard). JOEL did exceedingly well on this game. The problems were multiplication of 2 digit numbers by 2 :} digit numbers. Well done JOEL! DOOR PRIZES: STAN SCHENFELD AL SHARKIS JOEL GEDALIUS HARRY TUTHILL JACK GEDALIUS RO:}N FETZER HAROLD PEGLER JOHN HARDIE This was written by RON FETZER >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>END<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<