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We have beenexchanging newsle1A}tters with BIT BYTERfor many years, and HORST has been ourinternational ambassadore of 8 BIT goodwill, having attended the1B} GERMANmeetings, these last three years. It was nice of CURRENT NOTES magazine togive HORST about 50 back issues as agift1C} to BIT BYTER. Horst also conveyedbest wishes from NAPCO, J.A.C.G., BOBPUFF (a great 8 BIT programmer and nowpresident of 1D}CSS), and from L.I.A.U.G.and NEAR*US. HORST also says that they are constantly comeing up with new homemade hardware, and 1E}modifications to allkinds of existing hardware, such as aninterface making it possible to run a 3.5" floppy drive with the1F} 800XL/130XE,with SPARTADOS or MYDOS, the operatingDOS. BOB PUFFS Black Box was sellingwell too. Now I am told that H1G}ORST is havingproblems with his own 8 BIT equipmentand will have to resign as ourINTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDANT. I'm sorryto1H} hear this as HORST has been veryhelpful and a good 8 BIT friend, who monthly translated the BIT BYTER DISKSfor us. I hope1I} he gets his act togethersoon, and picks up where he left off. Thats it for now.....enjoy your 8 BIT, its a marvelous1J} HOME COMPUTER. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=eft off. Thats it for now.....enjoy your 8 BIT, its a marvelous07 *++*++*++*++*++*++*++*++*++*++*++* MINUTES OF THE OCTOBER 1991 MEETING ----------------------------------- ThisIL} month's turnout for our meeting was quite small, so in an effort to wait for others to show up, the meeting got off to a IM}late start. At about 1:00PM ALEX PIGNATO, President, called the meeting to order, and after a few remarks advising that IN}he had received calls from absent members, and about the "large" turnout proceeded with the meeting. GENERAL MEETING:IO} ALEX announced that a few more checks have been received for RON's program. ALEX then displayed a newsletter from tIP}he SAN LEANDRO computer club in which there was an article describing the disks on TURBO BASIC that RON FETZER had sent thIQ}em. They had designated the three disks as their Disks Of The Month. He then recommended that everyone in our club shouIR}ld get a set of Turbo Basic disks, and was advised that all tne members had them. ALEX then spoke about BOB SCHOLARIS}'s modification of the format of RON's disks to include a File Reader and a Read Me file. His new format condensed the 3 IT}disks into 2 disks. ALEX then read his letter in answer to Bob, in which he mentioned that RON will be lecturing at the IU}JERSEY ATARI USERS GROUP on TURBO BASIC today. This is the second time that J.A.C.G. had requested a guest speaker from ouIV}r membership. At this point, the door opened up, and in walked HARRY TUTHILL (probably stopped at every garage sale on hisIW} way). As HARRY walked in the door, ALEX asked him if he knew anything about fixing 130XE's, since he was having a problIX}em with his daughter's machine. HARRY said "NO", but he did say that he would be willing to "tamper" with it. I believe IY}ALEX declined. ALEX then brought up the subject of sending disks to other people. He stressed that when sending a diIZ}sk to someone, it would be a good idea to make and keep a copy of the directory so that when sending the same person anotI[}her disk, you will not duplicate any programs. Since HARRY T. arrived late, some wise-guy in the bleachers (me) toldI\} him that he missed the door prize. HARRY still claims that we fixed last month's drawing so that he did not win. AI]}LEX gave us an impromptu perception test for laughs. An example of the type of questions follows: If you have two coins, I^}and one is not a nickel and the other is, and they total fifty five cents, what are denominations of the two coins? AnsI_}wer: a nickel and a half dollar. One coin is not a nickel, but the other one is. Would our computers have known the answeI`}r? MINUTES and TREASURER's REPORT: The minutes of the SEPTEMBER meeting were then read, with a pleasant interruIa}ption in the middle for a coffee break. I will not give any details, since the minutes appear elsewhere in this newsletteIb}r. The treasurer's report was also given, and we are still well into the black, as we go into our SEVENTH year, as a cluIc}b! CORRESPONDENCE: ALEX showed us some materials (brochures and disk) sent to us advertising an all ATARI show Id}in Chicago. JACK said that he is not going (humor). A letter from TOM ANDREWS was read, in which he wrote about RONIe} FETZER's Turbo Basic Kit. All the comments were very complimentary, and he mentioned that they were selling copies to tIf}he club members for ten dollars. We then heard a letter from GARDEN CITY ATARI of CANADA in which they also complimeIg}nted us on our newsletter on disk, and mentioned that they were putting it in their library. They too had received a letIq}Â.B%DOS SYSB*)DUP SYSB9SNEWSLTR BASBAUTORUN SYSBAUTORUN COMBBWHO TXTB RAMDISK COMBMAINMENUHLPBHELP DOCBPRESSPRTMNUBWELCOME SCRBcFNREV TXTB5CPRESMESTXTBMACROEDTBASB]GPDLIST TXTBfDSEPT TXTB/HOWTO TXTB{JMEETDATTXTBHKEOCTMIN TXTB"yIRUMBLESTXTter from our "member" in ALGERIA, AFRICA. A brief mention was made about a computer show at HOFSTRA UNIV. right here on L.Ir}I. on October 19th. It is expected that JACK GEDALIUS will probably attend, and maybe HARRY too. The SAN LEANDRO club alsIs}o lauded RON's TURBO BASIC PROGRAMMING KIT. ALEX mentioned the TOAD Company's catalog in which there was a reasonaIt}ble amount of 8 BIT merchandise advertised. There was also some 8 bit stuff for sale in the latest ATARI EXPLORER, althougIu}h there was a definite lack of 8 BIT articles. We received a letter from NETA FILMORE. She sent another ATARI sticIv}ker from SWITZERLAND, (she has previously sent stickers and pens from other countries) and thanked us for RON's T/B disks.Iw} ALEX sent her a letter in answer to her letter, and included our newsletter, and thanked her for the sticker. We aIx}lso received a letter from JOHN AALTO, President of LIAUG. He wrote about NEAR*US; ALEX did not go into detail, except toIy} say NEAR*US was contacting new user groups. All members present filled out a survey to be sent to ATARI INTERFACE Iz}magazine. The survey asked about equipment, income, age, wants and needs, etc. They will be mailed to the magazine in MiI{}chigan. Mention was also made about DAMARK still selling the ATARI 1200 baud modem for $25.00, but now does not mentI|}ion the ATARI name. A letter was also received from BEN POEHLAND with which he included his dues. He also included sI}}ome updates on the status of CURRENT NOTES and ATARI INTERFACE magazines. He thanked RON for his T/B disks and mentionedI~} that he could probably use the docs as is, for an article in the magazine (he will check that out with RON). ALEX sent BI}EN a return letter in which he again bring up the subject of the lower rate for CN magazine subscrition. ALEX then cI}ommented on the lack of attention while the month's correspondence is being read. He stated that it is discourteous and rI}ude, to the speaker, or the person making a demo, who puts in effort to bring info to the members. He asked that we all uI}se common courtesy! DEMO's: ALEX gave a short verbal explanation of how to download text from the screen to aI} printer while on a BBS. From there, ALEX demoed a disk from the SAN LEANDRO club called "SLMENU.BAS" which includedI} a text reader and menu setup. Programs could be run directly from the directory. Next was a program to address envelopI}es, "ADDRESS.ENV" followed by a program put together by ALEX called "HELPMODS.BAS"...a compilation of small programs to dI}etermine revisions of Pokey chips, ROMs, XL, and Basic. Also demoed by ALEX was a text directory program "DISKLIST.BASI}" which reads directories into a text file in any drive including RAMDISK, which in turn can be printed out just like anyI} other text file (can use a word processor or the DOS COPY function to P:). This was demoed and printed out on a printer I}(printer brought in by ALEX. An 8 year old STAR GEMINI 10X, and still working). A program to print order forms was also I}shown. It will be found in side 2 of this newsletter, as "OHORDRBL.ANK", and must be run from BASIC. Another printing utilI}ity for printing text files in 38 or 40 columns was also demoed, called "PRNTDOCS.BAS", then "THANKS.BAS", which prints oI}ut a cute THANK YOU note for a gift you received. Lastly a program for printing CHRISTMAS wrapping paper, "XMSWRAP.BAS" wI}as shown (some of us had seen it before). JACK GEDALIUS demoed a graphics disk by STEVE DONG done on a TOUCH TABLETI}, with many fantastic pictures, with glowing colors. The disk included an explanation of each picture. Among the otI}her demos were a menu program from ENGLAND, a graphics program showing spiral patterns, which could be altered by changingI} parameters. HAROLD PEGLER demoed MYDOS and explained the similarities to SPARTADOS. MYDOS will be in our library I}as a two disk set. ALEX then showed another version of a document printer, "PRNTDOCS.BAS", that made it much easier I}to change back and forth between 40 and 80 column. He also showed "XEDUP.BAS", a disk copying program, and then an amusinI}g program called "COMKIL.BAS". This was followed by a STAR TREK game called "TREKST.BAS", with docs, and a math program I}"MATH WORKSHOP" for kids by PAGE SIX from ENGLAND. HAROLD PEGLER ran a demo disk on Visicalc. It was interesting toI} those of us that are into using spreadsheets. DOOR PRIZE: ....... ALEX punctuated Harold's demo with an announI}cement that there would be no door prize drawing since he forgot to bring the door prizes. (finally figured out a way to bI}eat HARRY). ALEX finished up the meeting by reading parts of letters from JIM CUTLER from ENGLAND and NIEK VANDERLEI}E from CANADA. JIM sent his regards to AL ATKINS, and to club members. NIEK is on his way to EUROPE for a vacation, and wI}ill probably have some ATARI news when he gets back. Our honarary member SAM CORY of J.A.C.G., is undergoing an operation,I} and we all wish him well, and hope he is on his feet real fast. Submitted by Temp. Secretary, STANI} SCHENFELD <<<<<<<<<<<<<**END***>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Submitted by Temp. Secretary, STANHC ************************************ Continuation of PAGE 6 P.D. disks from OL' HACKERS LIBRARY ****** 9} # 30-6 [Side 1]: (Disk #49 SUPER ADVENTURES 1) - Three great 9}adventure text type games....JACK THE RIPPER, AROUND THE WORLD (based on the movie of same name), CRIME ADV9}ENTURES...once again hours of fun for all... [Side 2]: (Disk #50 BENEATH THE PYRAMIDS) -The title again sa9}ys it all. A full blown text adventure story taking place in EGYPT! Another good deal for the 8 BITTERS. #9} 31-6 [Side 1]: (Disk #51 WHEEL OF FORTUNE) -This one is a different & interesting version than any of the 9}ones we have seen. [Side 2]: (Disk #52 SUPER ADVENTURES 2)- 3 long, excellent commercial type text9} adventure Games with DOCS- ARABIAN, ALIEN, and TREASURE ISLAND. # 32-6 [Side 1]: (Disk #53 GRAP9}:;HSTARLOLXENCELOFFSEOFFTABLDTABLACTIVOLAAAs5}A As A @ @ASAVE "D:MACROEDT.MOD"$$*5}*****************************$$* by Frank Seipel *$$* MODS by ALEX PIGNATO 6/3/90*$$* COPYRIGHT 1989 I5}ssue #76 *$$* BY ANALOG COMPUTING-9/89 *$$******************************h +@A@1-5}@Q(@ Ġh6-F:A6,"Ai(@.(@ BY FRANK SEIPEL9(@5}D(@O(@m(@ please wait(@%mods by ALEX PIGNATO OL'HACKERS NY%-A6Ar5}"!% 9@,-@A X +( @(+6-F:A5,=A5AL6-5}?:A5,XA5I(+( Enter . Hit Ծ afterI(entering each macro. Any=+(# keypresses wi5}ll be part of:( the macro.=(I&(A macro is a string of text --I(for instance, you could defineO(( Shift+Control5}+0 as LIST O("with this program -- and then type K(( Shift+Control+0 instead of LIST.+(K(This program can be5} used to!N)(!redefine the macros in memory, orN( write out an AUTORUN.SYS file to"b+(#your disk, which will automatic5}allyR("install your macros every time you_(boot-up.b(#G#@@K:/6-;6-AsG6-A5}$l(.(#Hit ξ for next page of text,;)@H(>:A%,K(l(Sum length of all macros may%P&(not 5}exceed 128. After using aP(%macro, you may not use it again until&i)(!you have typed some other key, orE(used anothe6}HICS MACHINE) "ATARI GRAPHIC DEMO"- Sit back and watch a fantastic GRAPHICS SHOW. Amaze yourself and your f9}riend with GRAPHICS and COLORS flashing by in all shapes and sizes. Guaranteed to relax you after a hard day. A 9} WOW of 8 BIT graphics display! [Side 2]: (Disk #54 QUEST FOR POWER) This is a moving type GRAPHICS GA9}ME - You are SIR LANCELOT and you move through CAMELOTS forests, around walls, etc - watch out for GOLIATH 9}and the SERPENTS. As a BONUS, you can save your game for another day! # 33-6 [Side 1]: (Disk #55 9} COMPOSER'S JUKEBOX) - 9 songs which can be played one at a time or one after the other, automatically. All9} played on a visible PLAYING KEYBOARD. (BUSTER, ROXANNE, VIRGIN, RONDO, GIRLSFUN, THE WORLD, PEDAL and HEIL9}AND). [Side 2]: (Disk #56 SUPER ADVENTURES 3) - Games like BLACKHOLE (pinball) - KLONDIKE - WINDSLOE MANSI9}ON (with Docs) All 3 are great TEXT ADVENTURE GAMES! # 34-6 [Side 1]: (Disk #57 ML ACTION) - 5 9}MACHINE LANGUAGE fast moving programs-Can be loaded from menu or with DOS 'L': A) SNOWBALL - B)XEVIOUS - fu9}ll blown translation of the original arcade game (instructions are included). C) LUNARDEF - Defend earth 9}from the evil & powerful KAZON EMPIRE! D) STARISLE- Try to destroy th STARSHIP & its FORCE FIELD... Watch out for i9}ts LOCK ON TARGET MISSILES! E) GALACTIC- a great conversion of the ARCADE CLASSIC 'GALAXIANS GAME'. Move 9}fast to avoid those missiles and bombs. THIS DISK EASILY WORTH $10.00 OR MORE! [Side 2]: (Disk #58 GRAP9}HIC CONSTRUCTION SET) 2 programs - "MICRO MAP" complete with instructions. "PIC DUMP" with a) KOALA PAD/A9}TARI ARTIST PICTURE PRINTER and b) MICROPAINTER MOD. # 35-6 [Side 1]: (Disk #59 MIXED BAG III9}) - 9 programs. UTILITIES such as TEXEDIT, DATABASE, CHECKBOOK, and GAMES like STARISLE, LIVEWIRE, DEMON9} BIRD, RAINSTORM and JANES! [Side 2]: (Disk #60 SUPER ADVENTURES 4) - If you enjoyed the prior ones, you9} will really enjoy these excellent 3 TEXT ADVENTURES, with "WITCH", "BRAND" and ARROW ONE. A VERY WELL D9}ONE DISK, AND A REAL GOOD BUY! # 36-6 [Side 1]: (Disk #61 EDUCATION 2) - SEVEN (7) Educational 9} Games-- Guaranteed to help your kids! Try the 'FRENCH to ENGLISH, or ENGLISH to FRENCH', or try MATHMAN, (with 69} levels, and each harder than the one before it! How about CONCENTRATION, SPELL, BARNYARD, MOLEATTACK, WOR9}DSCRAMBLE??? If you have young ones, this is for you! [Side 2]: (Disk #64 FLYING & DIVING) 6 games like 9}SPYPLANE, DIVER, RECALL, DARKHORSE (Learn about political races), BASBURG and BOPOTRON. # 37-69} [Side 1]: (Disk #62 UTILITIES 6) - 12 programs. BASICON, BASICOFF, BOOTDISK, SCREAD, BIDEC, XDRVDEM, ML9}TRACE, CRAB, ATOB, MICROPLD, DCOPY, & LABELLER. All interesting and usefull. LABELLER will set up for dif9}ferent printers & tthen labels can be CUSTOM MADE, including DISK DIRECTORY, and more! How about an 80 CO9}LUMN PRINT DRIVER demo right on your 40 COLUMN SCREEN! Works best with a BLACK AND WHITE Monitor! [Side 29}]: (Disk #63 ATOMIC PINBALL) 4 binary GAMES - such as COSMOS, BLACKHOLE, SMASHER, HATBATTLE! 38-6 9} [Side 1]: (PS Utilities 1.0)- This is a full disk that will blow your mind- It is not like any other P/S Util9}ities in our library. It allows conversions from P/S formatted disks to DOS formatted disks- contains som9}e special pictures. Documentation on disk with printout instructions, plus 8 graphics, 2 boarders and 1 f9}ont. The author really knew the nuts and bolts of the P/S workings. A BUY AT TWICE THE PRICE, all by itse9}lf! [Side 2]: (RLE PICTURES ONLY) - Contains 11 FANTASTIC RLE PICTURES for viewing or PRINTING! Must hav9}e the RLE MASTER PROGRAM to run the pictures. (Check catalog for the disk number of RLE MASTER). 9} # 39-6 [Side 1]: (Disk #65 ATARI BASIC bPOWER PACK) DISKIO ROUTINES- Each routine starts at line 30009}0, and they can all be incorporated into your own programs. 217 sectors of Full documentation included. 9} [Side 2]: (Disk #66 ML ACTION 2) - Disk contains 9 excellent games : AVALANCH, BACTERON, CANYON, BATTLERM9}, CHOMPER, INSECTS, NORDIC, OLYMDAS2, TRIAD. # 40-6 [Side 1]: (Disk #1 PRINTSHOP 1) PRINT SHOP9} GRAPHIC EDITOR by Greg Tavares. Includes 7 programs. JOYSTICK, KOALA PAD, MOUSE, PSPIC1, VIEWER, PRSHOP29} and PACK3TL. Buy this one to round out your P/S graphic printing. [Side 2]: (PRINT SHOP ICONS) - Anothe9}r 128 almost all new ones. # 41-6 [Side 1]: 111 PRINTSHOP ICONS. [Side 2]: 128 PRINT9}SHOP ICONS. # 42-6 [Side 1]: 128 PRINTSHOP ICONS. [Side 2]: 126 PRINTSHOP ICONS. # 9}43-6 [Side 1]: 128 PRINTSHOP ICONS. [Side 2]: 126 PRINTSHOP ICONS. # 44-6 [Side 1]: 9}126 PRINTSHOP ICONS. [Side 2]: 126 PRINTSHOP ICONS. # 45-6 [Side 1]: 128 PRINTSHOP ICONS. 9} [Side 2]: (J.A.C.G. DISK LIBRARY). "THE PRINT SHOP GRAPHICS LIBRARY UTILITIES" contains 4 programs. 1) GRAPHI9}CS LIST, 2) GRAPHICS RENAME, 3) GRAPHICS PRINT and 4) GRAPHIC DISPLAY. # 46-6 [Side 1]: (Disk 9}#67 STIMULATING STIMULATIONS) - A loaded game disk for gamers!-** EMPIRE **- 222 sectors, with an 11 sec9}tor documentation. -** RAILKING **- 176 sectors, with 123 sector documentation program, and NORAD **- 65 sectors. 9} [Side 2]: (Disk #68 THE FINAL FRONTIER) - Contains another 8 games: ALIEN, AMAZE, MALPASS, MOOLORD, OUTP9}OSTS2, ROCKS, ROTO, WARRIOR- What a buy for all you real game lovers! # 47-6 [Side 1]: (Disk #9}69 MORE PASSIONATE MUSIC) POTPOURRIE- a little of everything, including demos- games- music- graphics. 29}1 programs. AIRSTRIK, MONSTER, ENTSPGRA, FIRECRAK, SYNTHE, MUSIK, RAPSODY, INTMOOD, MADBOGGY, GRAFDEM1, G9}RAFDEM2, ROBOTMAN, COSMIC, ALTRELTY, AMORADA, CAVEHUNT, STARLITE, OXYGENE, SPANEYES, HIGHNOON, HISTORY [S9}ide 2]: (Disk #70 VOYAGE THROUGH TIME) - 3 More adventure games - VOYAGE1.OBJ(1 Millon BC) - 164 sectors and 9} VOYAGE2.OBJ(Medieval Era) - 259 sectors--- Disk also contains VOYAGE.DOC - 97 sectors---also AMPHIBIN.OBJ - 709} sectors. This side has a $10.00 value all by itself- COULD HAVE BEEN A BIG COMMERCIAL SELLER. 9} # 48-7 [Side 1]: (Disk #71 SUPER ADVENTURES 5) Three Adventure interactive GAMES - DALTON - 213 sectors9}, MENAGERI - 187 sectors, TITANIC - 183 sectors [Side 2]: (Disk # SURF'S UP!) FULL ONE SIDED GAME fo9}r all you SURFERS and would be SURFERS...and all done without getting wet! This DISK will keep you busy f9}or hours!! # 49-6 [Side 1]: (Disk #73 DANDY DUNGEON) Game - Play in cooperation not against a9} player(s), up to 4 players can help each other in this game. You can save the games and you can print it9} out as well. Has Dungeon levels A to Z with 57 sector docs.! [Side 2]: (Disk #74 STAR LORDS) Game - fr9}om 1 to 4 players. Create your own galaxy and can then save it! What can I say? Thse games have to be tri9}ed to be appreciated. Extensive documentation on the disk. # 50-6 [Side 1]: (Disk #77 KIDS FU9}N 1) - There are four (4) different activities for the young ones--A must if you want to educate them whi9}le they are playing! PICTURES, ALPHARUN, DRAGON and FROGGIE. [Side 2]: (DISK #78 PINBALL CONVERTER) - Co9}nverted 'APPLE' program--"PINBALL CONSTRUCTION SET COLOUR CONVERTER" with instructions. # 51-69} [Side 1]: (Disk #86 CHRISTMAS DISK) !!!MERRY XMAS FROM PAGE 6!!! Full of the CHRISTMAS spirit with man9}y 'CAROLS', 'FANTASTIC GRAPHICS'. 7 programs. CAROLS, ATHOME, XMASSONG, HOLYNITE, XMASTREE, CARDS and SPE9}EDSKI. [Side 2]: 128 PRINT SHOP ICONS. # 52-6 [Side 1] (Disk #86 CHRISTMAS DISK) !!!MERRY XMA9}S FROM PAGE 6!!! (same as 51-6, but see SIDE 2) [Side 2]: 102 PRINT SHOP ICONS. - SEASONAL and other spec9}ific HOLIDAY ICONS. EXTREMELY WELL DONE! # 53-6 [Side 1]: PRINT SHOP UTILITIES. 6 programs. 'T9}HE BBK ARTIST'(BBKART.COM), 'THE FLOWER PROGRAM'(FLOWER2.BAS), 'THE PRINT SHOP PICTURE PRINT UTILITY'(PSP9}RINT.OBJ)(prints out whole disk on about 2 pages), 'GRAPHIC SHOP'(GRPHSP), 'RAPID GRAPHICS CONVERTER'(RAP9}GRAPH.BAS), and 'BILLBOARD'(BILBOA.BAS). FOR ALL P/S GRAPHIC HOUNDS. [Side 2]: 102 PRINT SHOP ICONS--DESI9}GNS, FLOWERS, etc. Another great value to add to your collection. (not the run of the mill P/S Icons! 9} # 54-6 [Side 1]: (Disk #35/Side A) "PAGE 6 MAGAZINE Issue #35 DEC/JAN 1988/9". Entitled "VARIET:}Y", and it truly is. In it you will find 10 programs of games-demos-music. JUMBLE, BALLBEND, TURBO, TUTOR:}8, TIMEKILL, REFLEX, DISCO, MOVIT1, MOVIT2 and MOVIT3. All BASIC games and utilities. [Side 2]: (Disk #35:}/Side B) Contains the full disk GAME of "THE ORB"- a basic game. This is a most interesting disk, well wo:}rth having. # 55-6 [Side 1]: (Disk #75 CHASING GAMES) It contains 8 programs, such as BOX, C:}OMKILL, DRAGON, KEYCHASE.OBJ, MBUSTERS, ROLLEM, MMANIAC AND DEMO. [Side 2]: Has an ENGLISH version of "C:}OPYMATE 4.3" with 46 sectors of DOCS. ANOTHER GOODY for your complete library.***********************************:}***ATE 4.3" with 46 sectors of DOCS. ANOTHER GOODY for your complete library.***********************************8 run of the mill P/S Icons! # 54-6 [Side 1]: (Disk #35/Side A) "PAGE 6 MAGAZINE Issue #35 :} DEC/JAN 1988/9". Entitled "VARIETY", and it truly is. In it you will find 10 programs of games-demos-music.: } JUMBLE, BALLBEND, TURBO, TUTOR8, TIMEKILL, REFLEX, DISCO, MOVIT1, MOVIT2 and MOVIT3. All BASIC games and: } utilities. [Side 2]: (Disk #35/Side B) Contains the full disk GAME of "THE ORB"- a basic game. This is a: } most interesting disk, well worth having. # 55-6 [Side 1]: (Disk #75 CHASING GAMES) It cont: }ains 8 programs, such as BOX, COMKILL, DRAGON, KEYCHASE.OBJ, MBUSTERS, ROLLEM, MMANIAC AND DEMO. : } [Side 2]: Has an ENGLISH version of "COPYMATE 4.3" with 46 sectors of DOCS. ANOTHER GOODY for your complete libr:}ary.**************************************8- >>>>>>>>>>>>>****<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< MINUTES OF THE SEPTEMBER 1991 MEETING.--------------------------------------GENER>}AL MEETING:PAUL PLANTS, a member of WACO, calledALEX and asked for a list of clubmembers names and addesses >} andexplained the purpose of the list wasto build an 8 bit user base. It is notto be used commercially or given out.As >} requested, ALAN SHARKIS wrote aletter to PAUL PLANTS, and mailed ourmembership list but he did not includeall our tel>}ephone numbers.CORRESPONDENCE:STAN SCHENFELD responded to JOHNJOHNSON's letter. JOHN is a newmember, and h>}e wanted to know if thereare reduced dues for out of townmembers. The answer is no. The reasonis, it costs us mor>}e for out of townmembers because we have to mail thenewsletter disk, and sometimes othermaterial to them. (NOTE: >} Cost ofpostage went up, and the dues wererecently lowered from $30.00 per yearto $24.00).As requested, a letter w>}as sent to JOEWATERS editor of CURRENT NOTES by STANSCHENFELD. He inquired if there is aspecial discount for clubs>}, andmembers.We received a letter from our SYRACUSEmember, TOM ANDREWS. He thanked us forthe money award OL' HACKERS s>}ent him.He said he was surprised to get theSHAREWARE AWARD. He said he willinvest his award in a subscription to>}CURRENT NOTES. A good example of a wayto help build a heavy 8 BIT readerbase, by subscribing to C.N..From our ENGL>}ISH member, JIM CUTLER.He received our 2 packages of disks.He sent us 3 packages of 4 disks eachfor our club library.>} He read in ourNEWSLETTER reviews column about HOW TOCONVERT ATARI LANGUAGE TAPES TO DISK.It was reviewed by ALAN SHARKIS>} from aFRANTIC newsletter. He asked for aphoto copy of the article. ALANpromised to mail it to him.ALEX wro>}te to our member, BENPOEHLAND, 8 BIT editor of CURRENTNOTES magazine, and pointed out thatyou can learn >} a great deal ofprogramming when you type in aprogram. It would be great if C.N.would have a type in se> }ction and itwould increase the 8-Bit readership.ALEX also pointed out that thearticles should be flagged as to S>!}T or8-Bit in order to make the magazinemore useful. ALEX also sent BEN the 3disk set of the PROGRAMMING KIT by RONFET>"}ZER of the OL' HACKERS.BEN POEHLAND responded. He will sendthe magazines for HORST DE WITZ totake to Germany. He a>#}lso said that heprepared a ceremonial address to beread to the BIT BYTERS in Germany, attheir annual meeting. BEN w>$}rites usthat there is a rumor that the CHICAGOATARI SHOW may be canceled due toATARI CORP'S seeming lack of follow>%}up. BOB BRODIE the rep. for ATARI hasnot answered his E-MAIL for threemonths. This does not look verypromisi>&}ng. He said that ALEX'S idea oftype in software in each issue ofCURRENT NOTES, sounded good and hewill discuss >'}it with the editor. Hetells us about 2 programs from anoutfit in N.J. called CHROMA CAD anincredible 3-D VIDEO >(} COLOR GRAPHICSGENERATOR for the XL and XE computers.The manuals are beautifully writtenbut there are no printer driv>)}ers foryour creation. You have to send itback to the company for it to beprinted. They are working on a>*}modification. BEN asked if we knew EDHALL from CANADA. ALEX wrote that heknows of ED HALL. We had wanted ED tojoin us,>+} but FRANTIC got him first. IfED pays the club dues of $24.00 wewould be glad to welcome him to theOL' HACKERS as>,} a full member, and hewould get the benefit of lowersubscription to CN. ALEX also told BEN that he contactedHOR>-}ST about the C.N. magazines he isto bring to BIT BYTER W. Germany to beput in their lending library. Theycurrently h>.}ave over 800 8 BIT members.MORE POWER FOR THE 8 BIT!ALEX wrote to our member HADJILA N. inAlgeria, AFRICA (a first) in>/}forminghim that he is accepted as a member ofour club until the end of this year.We returned his Algerian money. If he>0}wants to remain a member then he willhave to send us international currencyfor his 1992 dues.COMMENTS:ALEX spoke up >1}as the Co-Editor of thenewsletter. As such, he and CARLOSHURTADO must have the right to makechanges in articles tha>2}t are submittedto them, within their own discretion.The members agreed with that.ALEX said he will print up a 100>3}copies of our letterhead for us to usein correspondance.We discussed further future AWARDS toSHAREWARE AUTHORS. The ne>4}xt award isto be given in January, 1992.THE BOSTON COMPUTER SOCIETY selectedRON FETZER'S PROGRAMMING KIT as theDisk>5} of the Month. The BCS is very bigand they cover all computer. It is afeather in the both RON FETZER and OL'HACKERS cap>6}'s to have been selected.RON has gotten much well deservedrecognition from all over for hisgreat job on TURBO B>7}ASIC.ATARI EXPLORER offered us a discountsubscription program of only $9.95 forclub members. ALAN SHARKIS said thatA>8}.E. wrote about a guy who creates 8BIT educational programs using PD andshareware. HAROLD PEGLER said recentissues h>9}ad had very little for the8-Bit computer, but there were two 8BIT articles in the latest issue. Agood sign that >:} they recognize thatthere is a big 8 BIT base out there.We are getting a free subscriptionfor the club, and wil>;}l watch thedirection of the mag.ITEM:ALAN SHARKIS announced he will have amini meeting in his house on SaturdayNov><}. 16 at 1:30 PM. Please let ALANknow if you are coming by giving him acall a few days before. He will showwhat the SI>=}O2-PC can do. ALAN lives inEast Meadow at 43 Rose Drive. He willgive us instructions on how to get tohis house. He sa>>}id, NEWSDAY'S BBSstarted to worry about sales tax onsoftware that is downloaded. This hasbeen resolved by JIM HARRI>?}S, Sysop ofLIAUG's NEW NEST BBS (at (516)234-4943), who contacted I.R.S. andreceived the publication, wh>@}ichclearly says taxes are due if programsare SOLD, not if they are uploaded, ordownloaded. So relax folks!RECEIVED:We >A} received 2 disks from JOHN MCGOWAN, St. Louis. Disk #1 has a lot ofprograms in arced form. It has a lotof utilitie>B}s, games and DOC. files. Itis really a loaded disk. JOHN MCGOWAN's disk NO 2. It has DDII and NX10, TEXPRO FONT LOA>C}DER, MAILMERGE,FILESEARCH, CODESMITH II, FILELOAD, MAXLOAD, TP 4.54C COM (NEWEST TEXTPROVERSION), PSDDIII (PRI>D}NTSHOP ->DAISYDOT). They are all in arced form.You will end up with several diskswhen you unarc both of them. LOADS>E} OFINFORMATION, UTILITIES, etc. Get themfor your library!We have a disk from CLUB CENEGAL -GRAPH MASTER.(for 10>F}29 PRINTER -written in French). It takes up thewhole side of the disk.We have the SEPTEMBER AIM magazinedisk. >G}It has a a couple of biblegames on it and a Paint utility and PSutility. Both sides of the disk arefull, and the>H}y are also all in arcedform. Another loaded disk value!BIT BYTER disk called MAGIC PLAYER.HORST in the last newslette>I}r explainswhat it does. It is loaded with musicfiles. Side two has games on it. It isa German disk.A disk from JACG, >J}New Jersey, (BATCH#5) - all games disk. It is going intothe library.NOTE:An order form program for ordering PDdisks w>K}ill be on the next newsletter.You type in your order and print itout and send it to HAROLD PEGLER, ourlibrarian. His a>L}ddress is on the orderform.DEMONSTRATIONS:ALEX, thinking that he had novolunteers for demo's, proceeded to>M}show us some he thought we would liketo have. (He forgot about RON's demo,and HAROLDS was unexpected, but BOTHWERE VE>N}RY WELCOME! See below.)ALEX demonstrated the 850 EXPRESS, sothat the new modem members can decidewhich terminal progrem>O} they like.Then he demonstrated his ENVELOPEPROGRAM that allows you to print youraddress and addressee on a regula>P}r orbusiness envelope.He next demonstrated his heavilymodified DISK LISTING PROGRAM thatlist your disk direc>Q}tory as you bootup. It lists the directory as a textfile on your Ram Disk. You can chainseveral disk directories tog>R}ether asone file and save it as a text file.Then manipulate it via your own wordprocessor.ALEX demonstrated a mod>S}ification toRON FETZER'S DOC PRINT PRO program. Hemade several mods for different diskdrives and printout choices.>T} Hecreated a terrific title screen. Hecreated a second disk with morechanges on it. ALEX said the last mod.was>U} made on 9/9/91 just before thismeeting, and it will go into thelibrary. Will it ever end? Who knows?Ask ALEX!>V}He demonstrated "HAPPY.BAS", a programthat modifies the HAPPY SOFTWARE 7.1SECTOR COPIER so it will be compatiblewith m>W}ost 256K compatible XE/XLupgrades.LABEL MASTER was next shown by him. Agood label program.He showed a mod. to a >X}program that hedid, that shows if the programs areprotected or not protected. It is only8 sectors long.He then showed>Y} us another program thatprints out a THANK YOU NOTE with yourname etc. You just put insert yourname, and the program>Z} then prints outa very nice THANK YOU note.Continuing, he also demonstrated BOOTDIRECTORY. A great program that showsy>[}our disk directory upon disk start uptime. It works with DOS 2.0 or 2.5types. It writes a short machinelanguage >\} routine into sector 3 andmodifies your DOS to show thedirectory automatically withoutdisturbing the >]}DOS, or using memory.It is a terrific program that shouldbe on all your DOS 2 disks.We then saw a program to m>^}akeCHRISTMAS WRAPPING PAPER on yourprinter. You better get this one soon!It is a good program.We next saw a Frenc>_}h Disk. It had thetitle screens of various commercialprograms run as a continues picturedisplay. It has a very n>`}eat loaderthat you could use with any otherprogram.We saw "POKEY NEWSLETTER, #1". It wastheir 1st newsletter. A ve>a}ry nice job.Congratulations! We would hope more 8BIT clubs would follow suit and makeDISK NEWSLETTERS! After all th>b}e above demos, ALEX saidthat these programs are all going intoour library, so look for them.After coffee and cake, HARO>c}LD PEGLERthen stepped up and demoed a PAGE 6program called HEALTHY EATING. Itshows you various menues etc. It i>d}scompletely documented. It is a doublesided disk.HAROLD also demonstrated a calculatorprogram and an investment progr>e}am. Itcomes from an English user group. Italso has an electronic circuitprogram. Nice work! The other side isf>f}rom Poland and it is called LOGOSMAKER. It allows you to insertgraphics into a text file orwordproce>g}ssing file. It is fullydocumented. A great program to get. Itwill be #150 in the library. Bothdisks were sent>h} to us by our ENGLISHmember JIM CUTLER.RON FETZER then did a greatpresentation on ARRAYS and MATRIX. Hedemon>i}strated how an array is assembledby showing how different invoices canall be stored in a single array. Ifyou are goi>j}ng to do any sorting youmust be able to write an array. RONdemonstrated a two dimensional arrayor a matrix. He us>k}ed a bowling teamand their bowling scores, as examples.A matrix is used when the informationposition is important, such a>l}s the 2ndgame is 250 etc. RON gave a shortbrochure to each member on arrays andmatrix. The presentation was muc>m}henjoyed by the club, and up to hisusual high standards.DOOR PRIZES:1ST PRIZE MICHAEL BRYANT. 2ND PRIZEALAN SH>n}ARKIS. 3D PRIZE JOE LEBER. 4THPRIZE RON FETZER. 5TH PRIZE JACKGEDALIUS. 6TH PRIZE STAN SCHENFELD.7TH PRIZE HARO>o}LD PEGLER. What, HARRYTUTHILL's number didn't come up???Sorry Harry you got lucked out - andit was legitimate thi>p}s time. We ranthe program 3 times and HARRY'S numbercame out last the first two times outof 3 times. The gods were again>q}st youHARRY!We would like to thank HARRY TUTHILLfor the fine coffee and HAROLD PEGLERfor the great cake. Without t>r}his wecould not function through a five hourmeeting!This was, without a doubt, a veryinstructive meeting, enjoyed>s} by all,and we went 1/2 hour overtime.Submitted by: Ron Fetzer>>>>>>>>>>>>>>END<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>t}<<<<<< <+ Jv} Jw} Jx} page 7 R#Ri[ u(/-%R|R34!24/&4%84 H_ ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?Transferred from Z*MAGAZINE, AtariOn-Line newsletter, by Mike Blenkiron.Reprinted by Nz}OL' HACKERS AUG NY, withthanks! ****** RUMBLES...RAMBLES...RUMORS... ============================N}******************************** Dates for the OL' HACKERS Meetings:Aug 17, 1991 Telecommunications-modemsSept 14, 19F|}91Oct 12, 1991Nov 09, 1991Dec 21, 1991DECEMBER 25, 1991 HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALLJANUARY 01, 1992 HAPPY NEW YEARS!JanF}} 18, 1992 Membership dues are DUE!Feb 15, 1992 Election Time!Mar 14, 1992Apr 25, 1992May 23, 1992Jun 20, 1992JotF~} down these dates for future use.*********************************DEr macro key.i((If this is a problem, just hit'/,($ before executing the macro)/((-@ * 6}%+c(( MAKING MACRO, HIT !+(_(/CONTINUE BY HITTING ANY # BUT 1, TO END HIT 1c,"@ A6}. 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Maybe not mountains, butnew hardwaN}re and software are stillkicking! Refinements are being made towhat is out already too! Not on asgrandiose a scale as inN} the heydays ofcourse, but they are out there! The biggest problem as I see it:communications. Spreading the wordaround.N} I have seen messages frompeople who know NOTHING of ICD,SpartaDos, the Black Box, and on andon. These were not posted bN}y newcomers to the Atari arena, these werefrom people who have been using theirmachines for a few years! We justlost theN} Antic "insert" in STartMagazine, but that is the not the lastcommercial stateside resource left.We have CURRENT NOTES, anN}d ATARIEXPLORER, and ATARI INTERFACE MAGAZINEThis on-line magazine, ZM/A\gazine, isa good source. Where does ZMag get itsN}material? From user groups and readerswho submit articles, reviews, letters,or just information to it. In short,YOU theN} readers, help to support it. There are other resources around. User Groups are a VERY GOOD resourcefor both problems you N}may be having andfor information about new things whichmay be "out and around" someplace. Bulletin Board Systems(BBS) areN}another good resource for informationand help. Many ST Bulletin Boardsfeature message networking to somedegree. Even 8-bN}it Bulletin Boardshave message networking. My BBS,FoReM-XE Professional, has had it forwell over a year. Express Pro!, CN}arina][, and I believe Puff BBS have messagenetworking. Networked messages are a fantastic wayto find out about new thingN}s, get helpwith problems, answers to questions, orjust have a good conversation. Most ofyou probably know about a BBS. ON}therwise, you wouldn't be readingthis! If you don't, then youare missing one heck of a good time! Get a modem, getN} a terminal program,and jump on-line! Most new commercial software for theeight bit Ataris comes from overseas. I have hN}eard of a place or two in theUK which will mail order to the U.S. Don't know of any stateside placeswhich carry any kind oN}f inventory forus 'old timers.' If you know of some,let me know! Public Domain and Shareware programsare still alive andN} well. Newrevisions are out for TextPro andDaisyDot3. John McGowan in SaintLouis, Mo. has written several programswhichN} will let you print icons in yourtext using DD3. New Versions ofSnapshot are out. Snapshot allows youto have 2 differentN} programs in anexpanded XL or XE and switch betweenthem. There is a version for hard diskowners which allows for up to teN}nprograms on your hard disk. SUPPORTSHAREWARE! On the hardware side, TransKey hasbeen out for some time. TransKeyallowN}s you to hook up a standard PCtype keyboard to your XL/XE, andincludes keyboard macros! From allreports I have seen, it iN}s an excellentproduct. The prolific support given byCSS' Bob Puff continues. Rumored to bein the works is a chip for an N}XF551which will allow both the 5-1/4 and3-1/2 drives to be on-line at the sametime! Also coming is a controller forthe BlN}ack Box which will allow reading,writing, and formating of PC, ST, and8-bit formats! WEll, that's about it for now. As IN}find out about, or remember new"things," I will pass them on in afuture article. If you know of, or usea product or progN}ram, let me know aboutit. I can be reached on the Z*Net BBS,GEnie(S.Lowell), or on my BBS(BlankPage BBS - 908-805-3967, 3N}/12/2400). 'Til next time... Editors Note: StanLowell is a long time friend andsupporter of Z*Magazine. His guidanceinN} the early days helped Z*Mag stay oncourse during rough times. Stan hasalso been a support sysop forZ*Magazine BBS systemN}s during the past5 years and his assistance with the newZ*Mag is greatly appreciated. Pleaseleave Stan a message and encoN}urage himto continue writing!! [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]eatly appreciated. Pleaseleave Stan a message and encoLEay they were contacting new user groups. ALEX gave a short explanation of how to download text from the screen to a prinJ}ter while on a BBS. All members present filled out a survey to be sent to ATARI INTERFACE magazine. The survey asked abJ}out equipment, income, age, wants and needs, etc. They will be mailed to the magazine in Michigan. Mention was also madJ}e about DAMARK still selling the ATARI 1200 baud modem for $25.00, but now does not mention the ATARI name. A letter wasJ} also received from BEN POEHLAND with which he included his dues. He also included some updates on the status of CURRENT NOTJ}ES and ATARI INTERFACE magazines. He thanked RON for his T/B disks and mentioned that he could probably use the docs as is, J}for an article in the magazine (he will check that out with RON). ALEX sent BEN a return letter in which he again bring up tJ}he subject of the lower rate for CN magazine subscrition. ALEX then commented on the lack of attention while the month's J}correspondence is being read. He stated that it is discourteous and rude, to the speaker. From there, ALEX demoed a diskJ} from the SAN LEANDRO club called "SLMENU.BAS" which included a text reader and menu setup. Programs could be run directly fJ}rom the directory. Next was a program to address envelopes, "ADDRESS.ENV" followed by a program put together by ALEX called J}"HELPMODA.BAS"...a compilation of small programs to determine revisions of Pokey chips, ROMs, XL, and Basic. Also demoed J}by ALEX was a text directory program "DISKLIST.BAS" which reads directories into a text file in any drive including RAMDISK, J}which in turn can be printed out just like any other text file (can use a word processor or the COPY function to P: in DOS). J} This was demoed and printed out on a printer (printer brought in by ALEX). A program to print order forms was also shown. IJ}t will be found in side 2 of this newsletter, as "OHORDRBL.ANK". Another printing utility for printing text files in 38 or 40J} columns was also demoed, called "PRNTDOCS.BAS". Lastly a program for printing CHRISTMAS wrap "XMSWRAP.BAS" was shown (some J}of us had seen it before). JACK GEDALIUS demoed a graphics disk by STEVE DONG done on a touch tablet, with many fantastiJ}c pictures, with glowing colors. The disk included an explanation of each picture. Among the other demos were a menu prJ}ogram from ENGLAND, a graphics program showing spiral patterns, which could be altered by changing parameters. HAROLD PEJ}GLER demoed MYDOS and mentioned the similarities to SPARTADOS. MYDOS will be in our library as a two disk set.. ALEX punctuaJ}ted Harold's demo with an announcement that there would be no door prize drawing since he forgot to bring the door prizes. (fJ}inally figured out a way to beat HARRY). ALEX then showed another version of the document printer that made it much easiJ}er to change back and forth between 40 and 80 column. He also showed XEDUP.BAS, a duplicating program, and then an amusing pJ}rogram called "COMKIL.BAS". This was followed by a STAR TREK game called "TREKST.BAS", with docs, and a math program "MATH WJ}ORKSHOP" for kids by PAGE SIX from ENGLAND. HAROLD PEGLER ran a demo disk on Visicalc. It was interesting to those of uJ}s that are into using spreadsheets. ALEX finished up the meeting by reading parts of letters from JIM CUTLER from ENGLANJ}D and NIEK VANDERLEE from CANADA. JIM sent his regards to Al Atkins. Temporary Secretary, J} STAN SCHENFELD <<<<<<<<<<<<<*****>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>kins. Temporary Secretary, H@