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G}JB|,#P#DE 1 HI BDEHHII 1 B 1 ,^ 1 70,0La- B V,#PH},^ 1 70 0L#L!-* 1P* 1 y0Yj383}mm ݭI}}`8}``|* ? ɛ,`|:-)| / 1L!`DESTINATION CANT BE DOJ}S.SYS0 0H{ 24Δ 28/L!/) 2 Π 2 0 ξK}hAΞB,0 J 1 BDEHI,HÝDE 1HIHIDELSAVE-GIVE L}FILE,START,END(,INIT,RUN)O S0 1`BDEPHI V` S0H 1 L!M}0 0 1L~0`PLEASE TYPE 1 LETTER,0`hhL! 70 1L0L<1 ,;ɛ7,"ɛ:ݦ1ݥN}A"D|ݤD|ȩ:|ȩ|ɛ,,(/+.ީ1 1,ɛ`轤{NAMEO} TOO LONG B VL!` L1I H1EΝDL1|mDiE` V0`8d/8 i:222 1 LP}!ERROR- 138ɛ+,' 20*.. өr2 1``2TOO MANY DIGITSINVALID HEXAQ}DECIMAL PARAMETER800 0 8 00`,0'D800 H,ɛh`2L1NEED D1 THRU D8uR} ECIMAL PARAMETER800 0 8 00`,0'D800 H,ɛh`2L1NEED D1 THRU D8u}Msg #0557 Date:02/08/91 Time:08:20From: BILL TARTTo: DAN R. KNAUFSubject: ST vs. Amiga (Msg #0552)I have had similar T}experiences with 'ol Craig and ICD. The were not to happywhen I uploaded some software that pointed out some problems with tU}he SDX andtheir lack of support. aA couple of dysays after that a new "Uploadpolicy" appeared on the BBS. I don't V}upload there anymore. Even stuff Iwriote for the SDX doesn't go there.When dealing with them it may be best to talk to tW}he HEAD of the company(instead of the other end).[451-563/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0558 Date:02/09/91 Time:04:X}33From: DAN R. KNAUFTo: SYSOP RONSubject: Nice Guy (Msg #0556)Hehe... I bet I get your programs to ya (at least one of eY}m) before a certainfloppy controller is released... I'm working on them but it is going slow atthe moment. I'm keeping inZ} touch with Bob though. Dan[451-563/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0559 Date:02/09/91 Time:04:35From: DAN R. KNAUF[}To: BILL TARTSubject: ST vs. Amiga (Msg #0557)I haven't had much more luck with the head of the company. The best person\} Ihave found to talk to there is Howard. He at least tries to give an honestanswer to an honest question. Everyone else j]}ust says 'it can't be done'. Ihave quit uploading Sparta support files there too. The last one I uploadedthere was the R^}UN command for SDX. It took them over two months to validateit. Heh, that was one of those things they said 'can't be done_}'. Dan[451-563/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0560 Date:02/09/91 Time:14:05From: SYSOP RONTo: DAN R. KNAUFSubjec`}t: Can't be done! (Msg #0559)Dan,Yeah, I heard that myself a couple of times.... like when we told them wewanted to do tha}e Super Archiver for the 1050... I was told it couldn't be doneand maintain the copying power of the 810. Well, not only didb} we do it but theSuper Archiver II has 5 times the power of the old 810 Archiver! Be Well,Ron[451-563/+] Command [? forc} Help] >N}Msg #0561 Date:02/09/91 Time:16:56From: CHARLES D. KOONTZTo: DAN R. KNAUFSubject: ST vs. Amiga (Msg #0559)d} Agreed, Dan. Howard seems to be the guy at ICD who cares enough toconsistently provide honest answers. Whenever I've coe}ntacted ICD with aproblem, Howard has been the one to make himself concerned. Craig? Craig is Craig and I guess we justf} have to accept him as such, shorttemper and all. After all, every once in a while his humor slips out.[451-563/+] Commang}d [? for Help] >N}Msg #0562 Date:02/10/91 Time:04:10From: DAN R. KNAUFTo: SYSOP RONSubject: Can't be done! (Msg #0560h})Hehe... Feels kinda good, huh?[451-563/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0563 Date:02/14/91 Time:22:02From: RAMON Fi}. RUSSETo: PETER A. HALESubject: ST vs. Amiga (Msg #0550)In that sense you're right, they will not lose costumers. But thj}eir BBS is asupport BBS, much like this one. And perhaps they don't want their BBS boggeddown with a fruitful albeit lenghtk}y argument regarding the merits of two greatcomputers. It gets downright slow to sift through other messages when you arelol}oking for an answer to yours. They use Express and I have not noticed asearch function for Your messages othose addressed tom} you or Both, like inhere.Take care and nevertheless I hope you have found an answer to your quest.Ramon.[451-563/+] Comn}mand [? for Help] >NEnd of messages in this baseScanning base Black Box Discussions }Msg #0631 Date:12/05/90 Time:o}08:56From: SYSOP RONTo: PRENTICE O.DURDENSubject: Mio (Msg #0629)POD,Peters problem was in the OS and the 74LS38 and thp}e Mech itself. Looks like hegot zapped with a healthy surge or something. I'll probably reinforce the SIOport as preventitiq}ve maintanence. Be Well,Ron[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0632 Date:12/06/90 Time:06:51From: DAN R. KNAUr}FTo: ANDY WENDELSubject: Mio (Msg #0616)You have to use the original timeset program, Andy. Marty's upgrade was abooboos}, heh. All it does is say DOS ERROR #0000 or some such thing here. Theoriginal runs fine though. I could upload it to Bobt}'s board if anyone isinterested. Dan[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0633 Date:12/06/90 Time:06:53From: DANu} R. KNAUFTo: ANDY WENDELSubject: Mio (Msg #0617)Fergot whut was the conversation about chkdsk and lies, but the only langv}uage Iuse is assembler (Mac/65).[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0634 Date:12/06/90 Time:06:54From: DAN R. Kw}NAUFTo: ANDY WENDELSubject: Mio (Msg #0618)Thanks for the offer, Andy. I don't need the chkdsk for what I am doing. Inx}eed something much more comprehensive. It is done anyway. If I remembercorrectly, I was just griping about the way differey}nt drives act.Another thing to note since you bring up Sparta's accuracy... SpartaDOS doesNOT report accurate file sizes foz}r AtariDOS files. I forget whether it is thedisk-based version or SDX but one or the other is off by a sector or two oneve{}ry file. Also, SpartaDOS cannot give a correct file size for a file that isover 999,999 bytes long. It drops all the digit|}s over that figure. And SDXcannot fill up and AtariDOS disk either. It thinks the disk is full a sectoror two before it r}}eally is. Dan[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >}Msg #0635 Date:12/06/90 Time:07:01From: DAN R. KNAUFTo: PETER A. ~}HALESubject: Mio (Msg #0626)Sounds like you're talking about an xf551 die-ing on ya Peter. I had one dieand kill two hap}py drives in the process. The problem turned out to be thatAtari had not soldered the power connector on worth beans. One }of the threepins soldered to the motherboard just came loose. I re-soldered it (theyhadn't even filled the hole with solde}r) and replaced the 3086 and it workedfine. If you attack the thing with a soldering iron, be really careful. Ihave never} seen a board built so cheaply and it is REALLY easy to pull traceson it. Dan[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >}Msg }#0636 Date:12/07/90 Time:00:39From: PRENTICE O.DURDENTo: SYSOP RONSubject: Mio (Msg #0631)Okay,I am sure when it leave}s Rochester it will be ready to be put in service:).[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >?[A] - Read message Over[N] - Nex}t message[R] - Reply to message[M] - Go to Main Prompt[D] - Delete this message[+] - Forward read[-] - Reverse read[O] }- Select new msg. base[Q] - Quit message read[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >M
Use [?] for Menu: ? +++}++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + The Puff BBS II Main Menu } + +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + [A] Ascii/Atascii/VT52 Xlation } [N] System time and date + + [B] Read the Bulletin [O] List/add to BBS list + + [C] Check f}or E-mail ->[P] Browse all NEW files + + [D] F-mail section ->[Q] Read all NEW messages } + + [F] File section [R] Message Bases + + [G] Log off [T] User} utilities + + [H] BBS Help Files [U] View usage log + + [I] System Hardware I}nformation [V] Product list + + [J] Online Games [W] Your statistics + + }[K] Multiuser Chat / Page a user [X] Take a survey + + [L] User list [Z] Message Bases } + + [M] Message to Sysop [?] This menu + +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++}++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Use Control S to pause, Control S to resume, Control C to abort + ++++++++++++}+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Use [?] for Menu: R Access to this function Denied! Use [?] for Menu: QTotal New Message Scan enabled!Scanning base General Stuff No new messages in this base}Scanning base Black Box Discussions }Msg #0637 Date:12/07/90 Time:23:54From: PETER A. HALETo: ANDY WENDELSubject: }Mio (Msg #0627)I see. Well, then I'll probably buy one someday after all... [631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg }#0638 Date:12/07/90 Time:23:55From: PETER A. HALETo: TERRY BROWNINGSubject: XF Syndrome? (Msg #0630)Fortunately, I har}dly ever move my drives once they're hooked up, so hopefullyI won't even accidentally break the connections. [631-751/+}] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0639 Date:12/07/90 Time:23:56From: PETER A. HALETo: SYSOP RONSubject: Mio (Msg #0631)}If it was a surge, isn't it funny that only that one drive got hit? Nothingelse seems to have suffered any harm. [631}-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0640 Date:12/09/90 Time:08:17From: ANDY WENDELTo: DAN R. KNAUFSubject: Mio (Msg }#0633)I have the Mac 65 code for CHKDSK as well... Whatever. I prefer BXE, even fordoing my ML programming. A lot less tim}e in the compile/recompile/debugging.and not difficult to convert over once you are finished.[631-751/+] Command [? for He}lp] >N}Msg #0641 Date:12/09/90 Time:23:53From: THEODORE A. DIVITOTo: PETER A. HALESubject: Mio (Msg #0626)no. the s}io connections break easily with unplugging/plugging.Sounds like you have either a bad disk or your heads are misaligned.[}631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0642 Date:12/11/90 Time:01:56From: PETER A. HALETo: THEODORE A. DIVITOSubject}: Mio (Msg #0641)It wasn't the disk, because it was only that one drive NOTHING worked in. But Ron says it's fixed and on} its way back to me now. [631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0643 Date:12/12/90 Time:00:57From: SYSOP RONTo:} PETER A. HALESubject: Mio (Msg #0639)Pete, Not if the surge came from the XF 551's power supply. Be Well,Ron[631-7}51/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0644 Date:12/12/90 Time:00:58From: SYSOP RONTo: THEODORE A. DIVITOSubject: Mio (Ms}g #0641)Hey... what's wrong with allyou guys? I've left several messages describing indetail exactly what was wrong with P}ete's 551!!! Be Well,Ron[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0645 Date:12/12/90 Time:02:38From: PETER A. HALE}To: SYSOP RONSubject: Mio (Msg #0643)Is there a simple way to test my power supplies that I can do? [631-751/+] Command} [? for Help] >N}Msg #0646 Date:12/12/90 Time:10:23From: SYSOP RONTo: PETER A. HALESubject: Mio (Msg #0645)Pete,We}ll, to begin with, measure the output voltage with a voltmeter. If it passesthat test, let it run overnight on a scope or a }volt meter with a "High ReadHold". This will indicate if a intermittent spike occures. Be Well,Ron[631-751/+] Command [}? for Help] >N}Msg #0647 Date:12/14/90 Time:19:08From: SYSOP BOBTo: JIM SAMPLESSubject: Super Arc (Msg #0604)By the} way, you can turn on the "Crunch Only" when backing up your stuff,unless you are backing up other arc files. It makes it M}UCH faster. Bob[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0648 Date:12/14/90 Time:19:10From: SYSOP BOBTo: ANDY WENDE}LSubject: Mio (Msg #0606)One could put one of those 'no slot clock' chips under the RAM in the BB; andwith the appropriat}e software, could do a clock. The only thing is thatsoftware designed for the r-time8 won't see any other type of clock chi}ps. Bob[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0649 Date:12/14/90 Time:19:11From: SYSOP BOBTo: ANDY WENDELSubjec}t: Super Arc (Msg #0607)Yes, the source for the SEA arc is available on my BBS. (716) 247-8355. Bob[631-751/+] Command} [? for Help] >N}Msg #0650 Date:12/14/90 Time:19:14From: SYSOP BOBTo: SYSOP RONSubject: Bread maker (Msg #0615)2 ho}urs? Naw, I'd have the floppy board done in a week if I took that muchtime per day.. hehe Bob[631-751/+] Command [? for} Help] >N}Msg #0651 Date:12/14/90 Time:20:35From: SYSOP BOBTo: PETER A. HALESubject: XF supply (Msg #0645)Hi Pete,} If the supply fries another drive, that's usually a good sign that its bad.:-) But seriously, those Atari 9vac supplies} are only a transformer, so ifthey do anything, they should go out of commission. Power line spikes howevercan pass right }through to your drive. Bob[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0652 Date:12/14/90 Time:23:31From: SEAN MALAHYT}o: SYSOP RONSubject: Mio (Msg #0644)I think I explained that in my first message... he doesn't know what he'stalking abou}t. [631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0654 Date:12/15/90 Time:10:31From: ANDY WENDELTo: SYSOP BOBSubject: Mi}o (Msg #0648)Hehe, guess what kind of message I am going to leave in the new productsuggestions? Actually, would it be h}ard to find the RT chip from the BB?/d[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0655 Date:12/15/90 Time:10:33From: AN}DY WENDELTo: SYSOP BOBSubject: Super Arc (Msg #0649)Thanks. I will be over there eventually.[631-751/+] Command [? for }Help] >N}Msg #0656 Date:12/21/90 Time:03:50From: PETER A. HALETo: SYSOP RONSubject: Mio (Msg #0646)Well, the voltag}e is correct, but I don't have a scope or a voltmeter with a"high read hold" to check for intermittant spikes. [631-751}/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0657 Date:12/21/90 Time:03:52From: PETER A. HALETo: SYSOP BOBSubject: XF supply (Msg} #0651)Well, aside of the XF, there's never been any evidence of possible spike damageto any of my other equipment, so I'l}l just hope that there's nothing wrong atmy end. [631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0658 Date:12/27/90 Time:}00:04From: ANTON MALJETo: ANYONESubject: RT clock Are there any known conflicts between the ICD RT-8 clock and the BB?} I hadclock problems since I've been running the BB. I run Oasis on this system. Iblaimed it on the dead battery, but now t}hat I have a fresh one, I still havetime problems once and awhile. It is a random sorta thing, hard to get a handleon.[63}1-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0659 Date:12/27/90 Time:20:27From: KENNETH AMESTo: ERIC A. DANIELSSubject: Expr}ess Pro! (Msg #0581)BBS Express-Pro! is a great program and I run it here myself with no problems,Unfortunatly, my board i}s down right now but I do have a solution for you.C407-846-1765 and get an account there and we will fix your troubles.Just} leave me a message when you get there.[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0660 Date:12/27/90 Time:20:31From: KE}NNETH AMESTo: THEODORE A. DIVITOSubject: Mio (Msg #0584)They do have a couple bugs in them though.[631-751/+] Command [}? for Help] >N}Msg #0661 Date:12/30/90 Time:19:07From: SYSOP BOBTo: ANDY WENDELSubject: clock in a BB? (Msg #0654)N}o, it shouldn't be hard to access it in the BB, since the RAM on the BB isaddressable by the computer's CPU. Bob[631-751}/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0662 Date:12/30/90 Time:19:09From: SYSOP BOBTo: ANTON MALJESubject: RT clock (Msg #0}658)Hi Anton, Its weird - Dan Knauf says he's had no problems with his r-time8, yet I haveall kinds of problems with m}ine. I guess they don't like me insertingcartridges when the power is on... :-) But to answer your question, no, there ar}e no known incompatibilities. Bob[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0663 Date:12/31/90 Time:00:10From: ANDY W}ENDELTo: ANTON MALJESubject: RT clock (Msg #0658)The R-Time 8 Cart is the only reliable piece of hardware/firmware I have} evergotten from ICD. I have had no conflicts with the BB. Oasis (depending on theversion) was known to have some rather qu}estionable TD handlers in it. And then along came Glenda... (personal joke)[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #06}64 Date:12/31/90 Time:00:12From: ANDY WENDELTo: SYSOP BOBSubject: clock in a BB? (Msg #0661)I may just give that a try}, then. But before I do, will this experiment(barring re-wiring of anything, which I will not do) in any way kill anywarran}ty, expressed or implied, on the BB?[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0665 Date:12/31/90 Time:18:24From: DAVID} M. LITTLEFIELDTo: PETER A. HALESubject: bb (Msg #0576) I totally agree with you on CSS support. They are great! I }have onlyknown one person who has had any significant trouble with the BB, and that wasDan Knauf. But, concidering the dem}ands that he places on his systems, it issomewhat understandable. Keep up the good work CSS! Vman[}631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0666 Date:01/01/91 Time:01:22From: SYSOP RONTo: ANDY WENDELSubject: clock in }a BB? (Msg #0664)Andy, Warranty?? What warranty? Oh, are you refering to our 30 day/ 30 feet -.whichever occures first w}arranty? (-: Happy New Year! Be Well,Ron[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0667 Date:01/01/91 Time:03:26Fr}om: DAN R. KNAUFTo: SYSOP BOBSubject: RT clock (Msg #0662)Heh, I insert cartridges all the time with the computer on. Th}at usually meansI have to cold-start the machine. I still have no problems with the r-time8though. I do use the ICD mio c}onnector and have the rtime plugged into theback slot.[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0668 Date:01/01/91 Tim}e:03:28From: DAN R. KNAUFTo: DAVID M. LITTLEFIELDSubject: bb (Msg #0665)demands? would that be like a soldering iron? }:) Most of my bb problems havebeen user invoked. (blush) Dan[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0669 Date:01/0}1/91 Time:17:28From: ANDY WENDELTo: SYSOP RONSubject: clock in a BB? (Msg #0666)I just wanted to be sure... 8-) Happy} New Year to you as well. I have one of those no-slot jobs sitting here,but I think the battery is more than likely dead (bo}ught it back with myoriginal PC clone in 1985) I will probably get a new one and see what I can come up with. That ought t}o bea real blast... Time to dissasemble the T: handler from Sparta to see where andhow it patches in...[631-751/+] Comman}d [? for Help] >N}Msg #0670 Date:01/03/91 Time:01:39From: ANTON MALJETo: SYSOPSubject: High speed OS I run a BBS }on a 130XE w/578k and a BB w/48Meg ST157N useing Oasis 4.7 (313278 6466) Question: How much of a benefit would the high s}peed OS be to this setup ?The system is pretty fast except for some of the sorts. I've heard I can expandto 2 Meg this way }(?).[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0671 Date:01/03/91 Time:15:44From: SYSOP BOBTo: ANDY WENDELSubject: cl}ock in a BB? (Msg #0664)Well, if you kill the BB in the process, then no, you're not under warranty.So proceed at your own} risk! But if you're careful, you shouldn't fryanything. Just make sure you touch ground before touching the chips. Bob}[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0672 Date:01/03/91 Time:15:47From: SYSOP BOBTo: ANTON MALJESubject: High sp}eed OS (Msg #0670)Hi Anton, The US+ OS probably wouldn't do anything for you, since you are primarilydoing hard disk o}r ramdisk access. The US+ is more for floppy-based systems,allowing users to boot directly off of RAMdisks, etc. Bob[63}1-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0673 Date:01/03/91 Time:15:48From: SYSOP BOBTo: ALLSubject: BB Enhancement Docs}The documentation for the BB Enhancement has been posted in the file librarieshere, so those that want to get an idea of j}ust what this neat little thingdoes can have a look. Its called BBENHANC.DOC, and is set up forEpson-compatible printers.} Bob[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0674 Date:01/03/91 Time:20:47From: SYSOP RONTo: ANTON MALJESubject: H}igh speed OS (Msg #0670)Anton, I don't usually disagree with Bob but in this case I do.... true the US+ willnot increase} speed of the HD but you asked about sorting... and that can be asignificant speed increase when using the US+. There are ma}ny features that arevery benificial and that's one of them. Be Well,Ron[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0675} Date:01/04/91 Time:10:55From: ANDY WENDELTo: SYSOP BOBSubject: clock in a BB? (Msg #0671)I already ordered the no-slo}t clock, and have a decompiled listing of theSparta Z handlers, so, once it is here, I will see if I can force a patch into}the BB locations instead. If I get it to work, bug free, I will send you thecode, as well as the parts info. You all can buy} your own clock! (grin). Iexpect royalties from this!!![631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0676 Date:01/05/91 Ti}me:17:39From: SYSOP RONTo: ANDY WENDELSubject: clock in a BB? (Msg #0675)Andy,Make it work and you'll get 10% of each r}etail sale and 5% of each wholesalesale... same as everyone else! Do you think many users would be interested? Be Well,}Ron[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0677 Date:01/06/91 Time:05:13From: ANDY WENDELTo: SYSOP RONSubject: clo}ck in a BB? (Msg #0676)Ron, let's be honest here. I know for certain that *I* am not the only RABIDICD HATER in the world.} Granted, the R-Time is the only reliable piece ofhardware they ever made, but even still, it has troubled as many people as} ithas been trouble free for. If it works in conjunction with the BB, I don't seewhy it wouldn't sell. I, for one, am waiti}ng for you folks to finish this might(mighty) MyDos revision so that I can ween myself from SpartaDos. I just can'tdeal wit}h menu driven dos's, nor the limitations on files in the directory,regardless of how many S/Dirs you can have. Have heard }a lot of good things about it. And, regardless of the rumors that may be floating out of Atari INC, the8bitters have been }totally abandoned by any major company other than you folks.I believe they are looking for a break from those that have drop }ped us. Granted, CSS may not get rich off of us, but I imagine we make enough of aprofit for you to keep you fed, clothed, } and what-not, as well as slightlycomfortable. ICD could have had the same status, Atari could have kept it, andso could ha }ve others. (soapbox mode quickly extinguished :-> ) Sorry to get so long winded... Yeah, I think it would sell. Course, } we could always take a poll...[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0678 Date:01/08/91 Time:00:38From: ANTON MALJ }ETo: SYSOP BOBSubject: BB Enhancement Docs (Msg #0673) Will this be compatable with the LQ series (24 pin Epsons)?[631 }-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0679 Date:01/08/91 Time:00:39From: ANTON MALJETo: SYSOP RONSubject: High speed O }S (Msg #0674) Yeah, the faster math might be nice, though most of the features would bewasted really. I do wanna somehow }get more RAMdisk space. Is it true that thisOS will free up a bit so I can address a bigger ramdisk? I am at 576k now,would } like 1-2 Meg of Sparta accessable RAMdisk space.[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0680 Date:01/08/91 Time:00:4 }5From: ANTON MALJETo: SYSOP RONSubject: clock in a BB? (Msg #0676) I would be VERY interested in a handler for a noslot } clock![631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0681 Date:01/08/91 Time:00:47From: ANTON MALJETo: ANDY WENDELSubjec }t: clock in a BB? (Msg #0677) Now we just need CSS to buy up a mass of ANTIC and GTIA chips and startproduceing Atari com }patables![631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0682 Date:01/08/91 Time:17:12From: SEAN MALAHYTo: ANTON MALJESubj }ect: RT clock (Msg #0658)try another R-time cart? [631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0683 Date:01/08/91 Time: }17:13From: SEAN MALAHYTo: SYSOP BOBSubject: RT clock (Msg #0662)Interesting you should mention that, I've had problems w }ith bothe the R-timeand SDX carts with the BB. but then I just blame it on ICD. (enough acronymsthere? haha) [631-751/+ }] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0684 Date:01/08/91 Time:17:15From: SEAN MALAHYTo: ANDY WENDELSubject: RT clock (Msg #0 }663)I was cursed to a life as her slave! but then I've heard she's cute!('nother personal joke) [631-751/+] Command [? } for Help] >N}Msg #0685 Date:01/08/91 Time:17:22From: SEAN MALAHYTo: ANDY WENDELSubject: clock in a BB? (Msg #0677) }I'd buy it! although you owe me anyway, so maybe we could work a deal! hahaha [631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg }#0686 Date:01/08/91 Time:17:23From: SEAN MALAHYTo: ANTON MALJESubject: High speed OS (Msg #0679)If you want a REAL ram }disk, try a company called DataQue, for whom I'm a(sorta) beta tester. They make the Turbo 816 board upgrading the Atari to } a16bit machine with much faster math functions and a port to add something like8 megs of SRAM to it. Directly accessable }too. [631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0687 Date:01/08/91 Time:22:43From: DAVID M. LITTLEFIELDTo: DAN R. KNA }UFSubject: bb (Msg #0668)Not a gentle soul like you!(Heh Heh)/s[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0688 Date:01 }/10/91 Time:01:15From: SYSOP BOBTo: ANTON MALJESubject: BB Enhancement Docs (Msg #0678)Yes, as long as the 24 pin print }er is in 9-pin emulation mode. Bob[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0689 Date:01/10/91 Time:01:15From: SYSOP } BOBTo: ANTON MALJESubject: High speed OS (Msg #0679)The US+ does allow you to free up another bit of addressing extra me }mory; butthis is only good for its own built-in RAMdisk handler and MYDOS (since theyboth can auto-configure). But the ram }disk drivers for SpartaDOS are hard-codedtables, and may not see all your extra memory. Bob[631-751/+] Command [? for He }lp] >N}Msg #0690 Date:01/10/91 Time:17:41From: SYSOP RONTo: ANTON MALJESubject: High speed OS (Msg #0679)Anton,Lea }ve me your address and I'll send you literature of all the features. You'llhave to talk to Bob about ram disks in conjunctio !}n with SDX... I don't use it. Be Well,Ron[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0691 Date:01/10/91 Time:17:44Fro "}m: SYSOP RONTo: ANTON MALJESubject: clock in a BB? (Msg #0680)Anton, Ok, your #1 on the list... lets see how many other #}s sign up. Be Well,Ron[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0692 Date:01/10/91 Time:17:47From: SYSOP RONTo: SE $}AN MALAHYSubject: High speed OS (Msg #0686)Sean, Yeah, the World it a beta- tester for the 816... I don't know of anyone %} who'sever PAID for one! As far as speed increase... the Ultra Speed+ pushes thelimits of Antic now... the 816 isn't faster &} (or at least not reliably!). Pleaseexplain. Be Well,Ron[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0693 Date:01/13/91 '} Time:02:05From: SEAN MALAHYTo: SYSOP RONSubject: High speed OS (Msg #0692)hmm... forgot what I was talking about! oh (}well... the 816 has more RAM chips,accessable (Via SRAM racks) and in NATIVE mode, but not emulation mode, Ibelieve it runs )} at the same speed as the ST. [631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0694 Date:01/14/91 Time:10:43From: SYSOP BOB *}To: SEAN MALAHYSubject: High speed OS (Msg #0693)No, the T816 does not run at the same speed as the ST. It is a 16 bit ve +}rsionof the 6502, and runs at the same 1.79 MHz chock speed. If you have a routinethat would benefit from manipulating thi ,}ngs with 16 bit registers, then you maysee a speed increase. But there are also programs that would run SLOWER in 16bit mo -}de, due to the extra cycles needed to fetch the additional bytes. BOb/gBob[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0 .}695 Date:01/14/91 Time:15:29From: SCOTT CATTERTONTo: SYSOP BOBSubject: High speed OS (Msg #0694)Didnt someone come out /} with a 8/16 version of the 6502? Do you know whichprocceser the Apple ][GS uses?[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}M 0}sg #0696 Date:01/14/91 Time:19:57From: SEAN MALAHYTo: SYSOP BOBSubject: High speed OS (Msg #0694) If the program is i 1}n emulation mode, then the instruction set is the same, andtherefore it would take the same number of instr. cycles to fetch 2} data, right?Now, if its in native mode, then it isn't compat with old software anyway! [631-751/+] Command [? for Help] 3} >N}Msg #0697 Date:01/14/91 Time:20:03From: SYSOP RONTo: SEAN MALAHYSubject: High speed OS (Msg #0693)Sean, The c 4}omputers speed is limited by Antic. Be Well,Ron[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0698 Date:01/14/91 Time:22: 5}40From: CHARLES D. KOONTZTo: SYSOP BOBSubject: MIO compatibility modeI've missed something somewhere. Just discovered t 6}hat when my BB is in MIOcompatibility mode it can read and write to BOTH an mio-formatted physical HDand a BB-formatted HD 7}(512 byte sectors). In fact, I can copy between thedifferent drives/formats. It just came in really handy in recovering fr 8}om apartially botched HD backup job. My old BB v1.01 doc tells me I shouldn't be able to do this. Have you guyssnuck in 9}a change with the BB Enhancement, which includes the BB v1.2 ROM? Orwas I just not paying attention at the critical time? :} Wonderstruck, --Charlie--[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0699 Date:01/15/91 Time:09:10From: SYSO ;}P RONTo: CHARLES D. KOONTZSubject: MIO compatibility mode (Msg #0698)Charlie, Heh,heh,heh! As always, we try to give <}a bit more than you pay for! Be Well,Ron[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0700 Date:01/15/91 Time:14:30From =}: THEODORE A. DIVITOTo: ANTON MALJESubject: RT clock (Msg #0658)I've run r-time 8 with a BB for a few months now with now >} problems. Sounds likeyou have a dying battery.[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0701 Date:01/15/91 Time:14:32 ?}From: THEODORE A. DIVITOTo: SYSOP BOBSubject: clock in a BB? (Msg #0671)I'm trying to locate an article that appeared in @}a a past issue of antic thatdescribed how to program the xf551 -high speed modes- et al. So far I've had noluck. Could you A} help?[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0702 Date:01/15/91 Time:14:35From: THEODORE A. DIVITOTo: SEAN MALAHY B}Subject: RT clock (Msg #0683)I've had none with either, although about a month ago my express cart startingacting funny. S C}o I've switched to bobterm.[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0703 Date:01/16/91 Time:00:24From: CHARLES D. KOO D}NTZTo: SYSOP RONSubject: MIO compatibility mode (Msg #0699) That's why you get all our business these days, Ron. Value E}andresponsiveness never lost a customer. --Charlie--[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0704 Date:01/16/91 Tim F}e:14:21From: SEAN MALAHYTo: SYSOP RONSubject: High speed OS (Msg #0697)So would that mean that the Antic chip is also th G}e clock chip? feel free to be as technical in your reply as you wish, I've been takingcollege classes (my major) in electr H}onic Microcomputer hardware, so I knowabout chip purposes.. thanks. I wasn't real clear on what the speed differencewould I}be. they said that since it uses a different floating point system andseveral other things, that the program executions wou J}ld increase in spedd by5-1o% I dunno... I'll upload their last catalog if ya wanna see it, and judgefor yourself. [631- K}751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0705 Date:01/16/91 Time:14:25From: SEAN MALAHYTo: THEODORE A. DIVITOSubject: RT c L}lock (Msg #0700)Its not a dying battery, cause I've had a problem with mine also, definatly notrelated to the battery. Wh M}en using the TD ON command in SDX, the right half orthe TD LINE is scrambled on the screen, but it stamps the files just fin N}e! [631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0706 Date:01/16/91 Time:21:59From: STEVE BUDRYSTo: SEAN MALAHYSubject: O} RT clock (Msg #0705)The reason the half the TD line is corrupted is because it is crossing a 4Kboundary. Try rearranging P}the order in which you invoke things such as KEY andthe like. I know that it is silly that the TD line install routine does Q}nottest for this, but it seems to be typical for the company.[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0707 Date:01/16/ R}91 Time:22:49From: TERRY BROWNINGTo: SYSOP RONSubject: clock in a BB? (Msg #0676)I'd be interested! [631-751/+] Comm S}and [? for Help] >N}Msg #0708 Date:01/16/91 Time:22:54From: TERRY BROWNINGTo: THEODORE A. DIVITOSubject: RT clock (Ms T}g #0700)This could very well be the case even though they are "new" batteries. I'vealready had to return numerous batterie U}s like used in the R-time-8, used in anold camera we had, and the smaller ones for a watch. Even though they're new, who k V}nows how long they've been sitting on the shelf.And as far as the watch batteries go a jewler told me that their life isSho W}rter! when not hooked up to anything! -=*]T[*=-[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0709 Date:01/16/91 Time:22:5 X}9From: TERRY BROWNINGTo: SYSOP BOBSubject: BB/MUX/RS232Bob,I've got a question/request regarding the BB/MUX when used i Y}n combination. Well when running a BBS, or anything, while using the BB and the MUX there's 2functions in the BB that you Z}really have no use, actually 3. 1.)The Screen dump unless you wanna see the MUX status screen. No big deal, butbeing able [}to somehow direct which slave's screen would get dumped would benice. 2.)The 6502 monitor. Again really no big deal but st \}ill redirection could behandy. 3.)The RS232 port. It's here where I really think that the BB get's wasted whenconfigured ]}with the MUX. I understand the problem with channeling the RS232signal through the MUX, but what is the possibilty of maybe ^}a 'hardware' fixthat would let a slave access the MUX. I Really LOVE! my MUX and my BB, but when I look over and see that _}wasted portI don't feel right. I'd really like to be able to access that port AND use the MUX. Is there anychance of some `}thing ever being done to 'fix' this drawback? Terry[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0710 Date:01/17/91 Time: a}00:38From: SYSOP RONTo: SEAN MALAHYSubject: High speed OS (Msg #0704)Sean, 5% to 10% increase is accurate but that's n b}ot was originally indicated by"tremendous increase in speed". When speaking of the Antic I wasn't refering toclock speeds b c}ut maximum speed in which Antic can process data. Be Well,Ron[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0711 Date:01/1 d}7/91 Time:07:28From: DAN R. KNAUFTo: SEAN MALAHYSubject: RT clock (Msg #0705)Is the right half of the tdline info only e}corrupted during i/o? Sounds like ahack I did some years ago and uploaded to ICD's board. Try pressingSTART/SELECT/OPTION f} all at the same time. If your screen gets turned off, itis my hack. I forgot to make sure about the display list not cros g}sing a pageboundary or some such thing. The file should have been named tdline2.com. Should that turn out to be your prob q}OB%DOS SYSB*)DUP SYSB%SCSSLOGC TXTlem, you can fix it by going back to thereal tdline.com which should be 1376 bytes long. (Mine is 1467 bytes long.) Proba r}bly the only mistake I ever made. :-) Dan[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0712 Date:01/17/91 Time:22:45Fro s}m: SEAN MALAHYTo: STEVE BUDRYSSubject: RT clock (Msg #0706)hey thanks... I never tried too hard to figure it out. now I t}can go fix it!uh huh, it was in a BAT file. [631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0713 Date:01/17/91 Time:22:47F u}rom: SEAN MALAHYTo: SYSOP RONSubject: High speed OS (Msg #0710)Ahhh... I see. ok, now, does the OS+ thingie that you hav v}e increase the speedthat much, or am I better off just playing with my 816? haha [631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}M w}sg #0714 Date:01/18/91 Time:04:20From: STEVE BUDRYSTo: SEAN MALAHYSubject: RT clock (Msg #0712)You're welcome. I had t x}he same problem a while back.[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0715 Date:01/18/91 Time:23:29From: JOSEPH SLIKE y}RTo: TERRY BROWNINGSubject: BB/MUX/RS232 (Msg #0709)I was whining about just this same issue a couple of months ago! It' z} such a_nice_ RS232 port...a shame to let it go to waste!*s[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0716 Date:01/19/9 {}1 Time:00:59From: SYSOP BOBTo: SCOTT CATTERTONSubject: T816 (Msg #0695)Yes, the T816 upgrade uses the 65816 processor, |}which is the same chip used bythe Apple IIgs. Bob[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0717 Date:01/19/91 Time:0 }}1:00From: SYSOP BOBTo: CHARLES D. KOONTZSubject: MIO compatibility mode (Msg #0698)Hi Charlie, Hmm, you shouldn't ha ~}ve been able to do that.. heh! Unless this isn't thesame thing I'm thinking of. The MIO compatibility switch basically }enables some extra code that invertsevery byte of data sent to the hard disk. You can still use 512 byte mode inMIO compat }ibility; but you won't be able to read/write to a hd that waspreviously written to with the switch off if it is now turned o }n. But if youformatted it (high level format, that is) with the switch on, then you'll needto leave the switch on. It }turns out that it doesn't significantly slow down HD I/O as I had oncethought, to have the compatibility enabled. Bob[63 }1-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0718 Date:01/19/91 Time:01:04From: SYSOP BOBTo: THEODORE A. DIVITOSubject: XF h }igh speed (Msg #0701)You turn bit 7 on in the command byte, and transfer any data at a pokey valueof 15. That can't be do }ne with the ROM SIO routines, so you'll need to writeyour own. The BB automatically handles the high speed for you. Bob }[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0719 Date:01/19/91 Time:01:07From: SYSOP BOBTo: TERRY BROWNINGSubject: BB/MU }X/RS232 (Msg #0709)Hi Terry, Yes, those things are wasted. But you are getting some advantages, too. 1. Hard disk I/ }O is quite fast.2. The printer buffer helps free up the slaves MUXing a RS232 port is just not feasible. Bob[631-751/+ }] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0720 Date:01/19/91 Time:13:16From: SYSOP RONTo: JOSEPH SLIKERSubject: BB/MUX/RS232 (Ms }g #0715)Whine, whine, whine, whine....(-: [631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0721 Date:01/19/91 Time:15:52Fr }om: JIM HALLTo: ALLSubject: BLACK BOX ENHANCEMENTSIs there any Black Box users outthere that need some eye openingand p }leasing software for yourBlackBox? Just get the Enhancementsright now, at CSS. I did and I amglad I did. First the Enhance }mentsare great! Your Screen print outis great to see. Remember thoseGIF screens you wanted to show toyour friends? Now yo }u can! Thereis a great Task Master editor thatdoes just about everything youever wanted, and it's on Black BoxEprom. The }change over to the newchip is easy, and your print outsare almost, startling. Rememberthose ATARI graphics that you gotth }at never printed out or didstrange things to your printer? Nowyou can have the special charactersand more. I have had this } changeonly a few weeks, and I am alwaysexploring in amazement, what Ibought. Do it now call CSS![631-751/+] Command [? }for Help] >N}Msg #0722 Date:01/19/91 Time:16:00From: JIM HALLTo: ALLSubject: Hard Drive Back-up'sRemember those day }s you wonderwhere your back-up were and wonderhow you will back up things?Never again!! Get HD Back-up Pro!The disks come } with all the infoto make your back-up go smootherthan a walk in the park. I trieda small back-up of one partitionlast ni }ght and I was amazed howfast it went. I had my mistakesbut I had previous back-ups madeof all files, but I wanted to seet }he software work. I am a smalluser of a 10meg hard drive andwanted to back up alot of the stuffI had. I tried backing up a }llfiles before but, it's so hard. This product simulates a back-up and thentells you how many disks you'llneed. After that } you can go into areal back-up and go let the programformat everything before you use itand then the back-up proceeds. Not }a bad treat to see, and a greatpiece of software for you users.Now just call CSS and get it![631-751/+] Command [? for H }elp] >N}Msg #0723 Date:01/19/91 Time:21:36From: CHARLES D. KOONTZTo: SYSOP BOBSubject: e (Msg #0717) That's what I } thought too, Bob. But here's what happened.Had both physical hard drives running with MIO (256 byte sectors, inverted).De }cided to convert both to BB mode. Ran into a problem with a backup tofloppies (the restoration part) after putting the BB i }nto the system, settingthe MIO compat sw OFF, configuring physical drive A to 512 byte sectors, andrunning the format progr }ams on drive A. Being curious, I tried to read driveB; as I expected, the result was "unrecognized diskette format". Then }Iswitched the BB MIO compat sw ON. Now I could read ALL of both physicaldrives. A test showed I could also write to both }and read the results back.So I left the MIO compat switch ON, left drive A configured to 512 bytesectors, drive B to 256 by }te sectors, and copied all my old (MIO generated)directories and files from drive B to drive A. Then I flipped the MIO comp }atsw OFF, configured drive B to 512 byte secotrs, ran the format programs ondrive B and copied the whole sheebang back from } drive A to drive B. Now I havecompletely "black boxed" both physical drives after starting with both drives"mioed"; and d }idn't have to use floppies as intermediates. Isn't that a gas? Don't know how it happened, but it worked. I don't know }if it would haveworked with the older BB ROM; this was done AFTER I installed the BBEnhancement with BB ROM 1.2+. Evidentl }y when 1.2 is set to MIO compatibility,the BB doesn't care whether the data is inverted or not.[631-751/+] Command [? for }Help] >N}Msg #0724 Date:01/20/91 Time:01:54From: SCOTT CATTERTONTo: SYSOP BOBSubject: T816 (Msg #0716)65816, I take } it that its a 8/16. For some reason I remember it being a true 8bit, that emulated a 8/16 somehow.[631-751/+] Command [? } for Help] >N}Msg #0725 Date:01/20/91 Time:16:33From: THEODORE A. DIVITOTo: SEAN MALAHYSubject: RT clock (Msg #0705) }Are you using it with the xep handler installed? That could be the source ofyour troubles. tdline and xep80 are incompatibi }le.The time/date stamping will still be fine, but viewing tdline on the screenwill be all screwed up and your can crash a l }ot of programs.[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0726 Date:01/20/91 Time:17:35From: PETER A. HALETo: SYSOP BO }BSubject: T816 (Msg #0716)I'm just curious, what is the theoretical maximum clock speed of the 6502?I don't mean in the A }tari or anything, I just mean the chip itself, what isit's design limit? [631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #07 }27 Date:01/20/91 Time:23:19From: ANTON MALJETo: SEAN MALAHYSubject: RT clock (Msg #0682) Yes in fact I have two of th }em here, and they both needed, and got,batteries. I still get odd things once and awhile. Only problem lately is thatI loos }e time, (don't with cart on other computer without BB)[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0728 Date:01/20/91 Time }:23:26From: ANTON MALJETo: SYSOP BOBSubject: High speed OS (Msg #0689) Thanks for the info. That seems to be the prob }lem, finding a Spartacompatable ramdisk for beyond 576k. Un fortunatly MyDOS isn't an option for meat this point.[631-751 }/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0729 Date:01/21/91 Time:01:56From: SEAN MALAHYTo: THEODORE A. DIVITOSubject: RT cloc }k (Msg #0725) nope, don't use the XEP8o... I use the OmniView 8o, but its not installed. Ifound the problem. [631-751 }/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0730 Date:01/22/91 Time:00:18From: DAVID M. LITTLEFIELDTo: DAN R. KNAUFSubject: RT c }lock (Msg #0711)That and not shielding....... Vman[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0731 D }ate:01/22/91 Time:01:39From: DAN R. KNAUFTo: ANTON MALJESubject: RT clock (Msg #0727)Assuming the battery is good on th }e r-time that is losing time, there is a potthat you can adjust to speed up/slow down the clock. It is described in therti }me8 docs.[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0732 Date:01/22/91 Time:01:40From: DAN R. KNAUFTo: ANTON MALJESub }ject: High speed OS (Msg #0728)SDX has a built in ramdisk handler that can handle at least a meg. Also thereis a file ava }ilable on ICD's bbs that will handle 1 meg for use with SpartaDOS3.2. I believe it is RD1088.* Keith Ledbetter wrote it. }I have also seen iton other BBS's. It is PD.[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0733 Date:01/22/91 Time:01:42F }rom: DAN R. KNAUFTo: DAVID M. LITTLEFIELDSubject: RT clock (Msg #0730)Hmmm... Shields are used to ward off blows aren't t }hey? Maybe if I just don'thit my hardware I won't ever need sheilding...[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0734 } Date:01/23/91 Time:23:28From: SEAN MALAHYTo: DAN R. KNAUFSubject: Shielding... (Msg #0733)Not true! I have full plate } on my 13o Xe, and a few good blows from a macewould go right through it! don't be fooled! get a good composite body armor }for it!!! [631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0735 Date:01/24/91 Time:01:08From: DAN R. KNAUFTo: SEAN MALAHY }Subject: Shielding... (Msg #0734)Hehe... I kinda figured that shielding was worthless. :-) } Dan[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0736 Date:01/26/91 Time:21:03From: DAVID M. LITTLEFIELDTo: SEAN MALAHY }Subject: Shielding... (Msg #0734)Kelvar Is's been approved for military use...... Vman[ }631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0737 Date:01/27/91 Time:16:30From: SYSOP BOBTo: CHARLES D. KOONTZSubject: e ( }Msg #0723)Hmm, something doesn't sound right. On every hard disk access, it checks thatMIO compat switch. If turned on, }it inverts the data. Should not matter whatdrive, etc. Try this: turn the switch opposite to what it is now, and do DIRs }of eachpartition. Do any of them come up ok, or do they all say "incompatibleformat"? Bob[631-751/+] Command [? for He }lp] >N}Msg #0738 Date:01/27/91 Time:16:33From: SYSOP BOBTo: PETER A. HALESubject: T816 (Msg #0726)Hi Pete, The }max clock speed varies on the speed of the chip you buy. We use 2MHzpieces, but the new 658xx chips are rated at 8MHz. Bo }b[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0739 Date:01/27/91 Time:16:35From: SYSOP BOBTo: ANTON MALJESubject: High }speed OS (Msg #0728)Try the PSI Ramdisk. Its on my board - a recent upload in the utils section. Bob[631-751/+] Comman }d [? for Help] >N}Msg #0740 Date:01/28/91 Time:21:44From: CHARLES D. KOONTZTo: SYSOP BOBSubject: MIO Compatibility (M }sg #0737) Right now, Bob, with both physical drives formatted in BB - 512 byte/secformat, flipping dip sw #7 lets me read } directories of all partitions. Flip itagain and I can still read all directories of all partitions. I didn't hink it w }as supposed to work either but was pleased it did. I wasable to recover from a botched attempt to backup the MIO-formatted }HDs ontofloppies, reformat the physical drives as BB-512bytes/sec, and restore thefloppies onto each physical drive. When }the floppies wouldn't restore, I wasdesperate and still had all the files (in MIO-256bytes/sec) on drive B. TheONLY time I } get "undecipherable format" or whatever the note is, is when I'm indip sw #7 OFF and try to read an MIO-format directory. }Since I've completelyconverted to BB format, I can't do it anymore unless I reformat one physicaldrive back to MIO junk. W }ant me to try it this weekend?[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0741 Date:01/29/91 Time:23:14From: SYSOP BOBT }o: CHARLES D. KOONTZSubject: MIO Compatibility (Msg #0740)Hi Charlie, By flipping switch #7, you should get junk when }you do a DIR regardless ofwhat formatted the HD. Let me know what you find. It works that way here! Bob[631-751/+] Com }mand [? for Help] >N}Msg #0742 Date:01/30/91 Time:02:29From: ANTON MALJETo: DAN R. KNAUFSubject: High speed OS (Msg # }0732) Yeah I found it. Hope it works, think I might go for the Newell 1 megupgrade. I wanna stick with Sparta 3.2 because } my HD and BBS are it it, toohard to change now!Just rewriteing my batch files for Sparta X is bad enough.[631-751/+] Com }mand [? for Help] >N}Msg #0743 Date:01/30/91 Time:23:17From: CHARLES D. KOONTZTo: SYSOP BOBSubject: MIO Compatibility } (Msg #0741) Bob, is it possible my fortunate experience occurred because my particularMIO doesn't write inverted data t }o the hard drive? Just remembered I sent theMIO to ICD for repairs a few months before I got my first hard drive (you know }the one). When it came back there were major changes in the power supply, acouple of new 680 pf caps on the pins of two chi }ps, and a new ROM (v1.1m). Isit possible ICD corrected that inverted data thing on later MIOs? Incidently, just finish }ed some major system alterations to reinsert the MIO,format drive B, write to drive B, switch back to BB, try to read drive }B. Yep,you guessed it. In MIO compatibility mode, my BB still reads both the BB andMIO drives. Didn't check writing but }since *that* worked before, too, I haveno reason to doubt I could copy from either one to the other again. No, you can' }t have this BB back. It's a keeper![631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0744 Date:02/02/91 Time:16:19From: SYSOP } BOBTo: CHARLES D. KOONTZSubject: MIO Compatibility (Msg #0743)Hi Charlie, Heh. I'll have to take a look! Could be }your MIO was changed. But then Iwould think that would make them incompatible with the others out there. Ohwell, guess it }s one of those things that shouldn't be questioned.. as long asit works, that's the main thing! Bob[631-751/+] Command [ }? for Help] >N}Msg #0745 Date:02/04/91 Time:23:55From: CHARLES D. KOONTZTo: SYSOP BOBSubject: MIO Compatibility (Msg }#0744) If it's not due to a change in the MIO, Bob, the only other possibility thatoccurs to me is that perhaps "inverte }d" data doesn't matter to an RLLcontroller. By the way, has it really been verified that the MIO causes a HD to writed }ata in inverted form? I'd hate to think we're wearing out our keyboardstalking about something that started out as a rumor. }[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0746 Date:02/07/91 Time:15:42From: SYSOP BOBTo: CHARLES D. KOONTZSubject: }MIO Compatibility (Msg #0745)Hi Charlie, No, the MIO indeed inverts data in its hardware. It uses the SCSI port forbo }th printer and hard disk data. On the SCSI bus, all lines are active low.On the printer bus, all lines are active high. SO } there definitely is adifference. The only thing I can think of is that perhaps your dip switch isinternally stuck on. An }yways, the code that does the inverting takes upbasically no time, so you probably would never notice it. But the switch } is still needed for if people use Supra drives on the BB. Bob[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0747 Date:02/0 }7/91 Time:17:16From: PETER A. HALETo: SYSOP BOBSubject: T816 (Msg #0738)I don't think that was exactly what I was askin }g. I just wanted to know about the 6502. In the Atari, it runs at 1.79 I think.And if you switch off the video, it's abou }t 30% faster I've been told. What I was wondering, for the 6502, what the theoretical fastest speed it canrun at? Or is }my question flawed? [631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0748 Date:02/08/91 Time:02:36From: SYSOP RONTo: PETE }R A. HALESubject: T816 (Msg #0747)Pete, I don't know what your original question was but the 6502C series can go to 2MH }z and thats it. The T816 is limited by Antic Be Well,Ron[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0749 Date:02/08/91 } Time:15:49From: STEVE BUDRYSTo: PETER A. HALESubject: T816 (Msg #0747)Switching off ANTIC doesn't increase the speed of } the 6502,it ~increases the time available to your program.[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0750 Date:02/09/91 } Time:17:01From: CHARLES D. KOONTZTo: SYSOP BOBSubject: MIO Compatibility (Msg #0746) There is a difference in BB perf }ormance as the "MIO" dip switch is toggled.In "MIO compatibility" position, I can read BOTH MIO- and BB- formatted HDs, in2 }56 and 512 byte/sector formats, respectively. In "no MIO" position, I can NOTread MIO-formatted HDs. I'm of the opinion, t }hen, that the dip switch isfunctioning on my BB. On the other hand, since my experience is apparently unique, perhaps we }'dbetter just chalk it up to fortuitous firmware foibles and use theBBS space for something more productive. I'm glad my B }B behaves this way sinceit saved me from loosing all my HD files. It's a wonderful error, if error itis.[631-751/+] Comm }and [? for Help] >N}Msg #0751 Date:02/15/91 Time:01:51From: SYSOP BOBTo: PETER A. HALESubject: T816 (Msg #0747)Hi P }ete, The 6502 in the Atari always runs at 1.79 Mhz. Antic steals processor timewhen doing screen DMA. That's why turni }ng the screen off results in a speedincrease - less time is "stolen" from the CPU. But its still actually not thefull 100% } speed. Bob[631-751/+] Command [? for Help] >NEnd of messages in this baseScanning base Future Product Ideas }M }sg #0183 Date:07/14/90 Time:02:35From: PETER A. HALETo: SYSOP BOBSubject: Future Products (Msg #0180)Does the ICD BBS }still exist at the 1-815-968-2229 number? I've been trying tocall it for quit some time and it always seems to either be bu }sy, or there's noanswer. Are there any other companies out there who might be interested enough to makea Basic XE-like la }nuage who I could suggest it to? Or any there anyindividuals who might be interested in making a "Share-Ware" version of it } orsomething?If anybody knows anyone out there in the Atari-universe who might be, pleasepass it on to them! Because they } have at least one guaranteed customer, me! [183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0184 Date:07/18/90 Time:01:35Fr }om: DAN R. KNAUFTo: PETER A. HALESubject: Future Products (Msg #0181)Remember that OSS was working on Basic XE before the } 130XE came out. No onehad heard of a 320k upgrade then. I wish they had. Maybe then Basic XE wouldhave handled PORTB di }fferently.[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0185 Date:07/18/90 Time:01:38From: DAN R. KNAUFTo: PETER A. HALE }Subject: Future Products (Msg #0182)Amen to the Sparta DOS opinion. Not too long before OSS sold out to ICD, theywere wor }king on Basic XE. The last version I tested for them was 4.2b. I havenever seen such a buggy cartridge in my life, heh. I }t crashed on the firstprogram I tried it on. (Seven card stud.) At that time, OSS was working onthe LVAR idea you mention }ed. A lot of us users wanted that option. They wereconsidering adding the 'renumber part of the program' stuff as well as }severalother goodies. I have forgotten what they were.[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0186 Date:07/18/90 Ti }me:01:41From: DAN R. KNAUFTo: PETER A. HALESubject: Future Products (Msg #0183)Icd is still there. Just hard to get aho }ld of on the BBS these days for somereason.[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0187 Date:07/19/90 Time:15:48Fro }m: JIM HALLTo: SYSOP RONSubject: new software releasesIn a previous post you were sayingsomething about software release }sform CSS? Any Idea what they mightbe? I myself would like aenhancement to the 'print screen'function that would give me }agood gray scale and the option ofgiving me a positive or negativeview.[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0188 } Date:07/19/90 Time:15:51From: JIM HALLTo: SYSOP RONSubject: print buffersCould the black box be changed tohave a huge } print buffer? Like 256kor 512k, or even that huge 1megbig fella that would give ussomething to crow about? Why I askis p }rinting documents of a largesize, is slow, if not cumbersome.Or is the Black Box just stuck at64k?[183-305/+] Command [? } for Help] >N}Msg #0189 Date:07/20/90 Time:02:10From: PETER A. HALETo: DAN R. KNAUFSubject: Future Products (Msg #018 }4)Well, still, a little creative thinking would have at least told them that"hey, people are certain to want to modify the } memory capacity, so let's buildin some preparations for that possibility." But even after the product had been out for se }veral years, they never botheredto release a new version that did that. I'm tempted to say that some of the problem might }be to do with ICD'sacquistion of OSS.The same thing happened to Infocom when Activision bought them. BeforeActivision, In }focom supported virtually every computer you can imagine, butshortly after Activision bought them, Suddenly Infocom dropped }its support fora wide range of systems, including Atari 8-bits. [183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0190 Date: !}07/20/90 Time:02:17From: PETER A. HALETo: DAN R. KNAUFSubject: Future Products (Msg #0185)Well, as I said in a previous "} message someplace, ICD seems to have been whatruined OSS's products...Oh well.The version of BXE I have is 4.11.Has ther #}e been a newer version released since 4.11? [183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0191 Date:07/20/90 Time:11:16Fr $}om: STAN LOWELLTo: PETER A. HALESubject: Future Products (Msg #0183)Pete, The ICD BBS was down for several days I think %}, but is now back up as of a fewdays ago. Stan[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0192 Date:07/20/90 Time:23: &}59From: SYSOP RONTo: JIM HALLSubject: new software releases (Msg #0187)Jim,Well.... I'm not suppose to talk about it ye '}t but I guess we're close enough toreleasing it that I can let you in on one of our new products. It's a add on tothe BB OS (} that will allow your printer to dump screen graphic with 16 shades ofgrey! It'll do a couple other niffy things but it's ma )}in purpose is to give youcrystal clear pictures from a dot matrix printer. Not certain of the priceyet... probably in the $ *}49.95 range.Be Well, Ron[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0193 Date:07/23/90 Time:01:42From: SYSOP BOBTo: +}JIM HALLSubject: print buffers (Msg #0188)Hi Jim, In theory you could add a whole stack of RAM chips to the BB, but 1. ,} theywould have to be static RAM, since dynamic ram requires additional circuitry.2. Static rams are fairly expensive.3. Y -}ou run into the problem of noise when adding a lot of chips onto thecomputer's databus. Bob[183-305/+] Command [? for He .}lp] >N}Msg #0194 Date:07/23/90 Time:15:07From: JIM HALLTo: SYSOP RONSubject: new software releases (Msg #0192)When /}this enhancement comes out,RonI will be one of the first tocome and get it. CSS products neverhave made me stray, they are 0} whatthey say and much more.[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0195 Date:07/23/90 Time:15:09From: JIM HALLTo: 1} SYSOP BOBSubject: print buffers (Msg #0193)Thanks for the info on print buffers and such. I was just looking aroundfor m 2}ore enhancements for theBlack Box and I don't like thenoise factor.I am now waiting for enhancementsthat will make my lif 3}e easier. Iwould like a good back up utilitythat would ensure a better livingfor my Black Box. A good menuprogram that wo 4}uld take in thatI have say 5000 d/d sectors, andcan boot from that drive. Curserdriven would help, but notessential. Same 5} thing with acopier, that would take that same5000d/d sectors and copy the wayI would like. Everything out nowgives it to 6} the small user, notaperson with a hard drive.[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0196 Date:07/24/90 Time:17:37 7}From: TERRY BROWNINGTo: RONSubject: Cartridge port extensionI'm working on an extension for the cartridge port with an ol 8}d cart port,ribbon cable and a card edge to plug into the existing port.The reason being is the way my computer desk is hoo 9}ked up I can only have asingle cart in....piggybacking carts is out of the question the way it is. Will I run into RF prob :}lems if the ribbon is too long? I'd like to run theribbon under the computer and have the carts in front, but if I'm going t ;}o runinto RF problems I could just make it a short one, just enough to set the cartshorizontally...Let me know what you thi <}nk and if it is a feasible littleproject for CSS to add to your product line. Thanks Much =} Terry B. BTW:Alot of people showed interest in our proposed venture. I just may doalright![183-305/+] Command [? for >} Help] >N}Msg #0197 Date:07/25/90 Time:00:53From: SYSOP RONTo: TERRY BROWNINGSubject: Cartridge port extension (Msg # ?}0196)Terry,Your not only going to have RF problems (even with the short cable), but yournot going to be able to operate s @}tacked carts. We're going through a lot ofexpense using some very sophistcated circuitry to bring out the Cartridge PortExp A}ander. If it were easy, someone else would've done it a long time ago. In answer to your phone message, YES, the chips you B}mentioned will work fine inmemory upgrades. Their worth varys between $1 and $3 each. Be Well, Ron[183-305/+] Command C}[? for Help] >N}Msg #0198 Date:07/25/90 Time:01:01From: SYSOP RONTo: JIM HALLSubject: new software releases (Msg #019 D}4)Jim, Thanks for the vote of confidence. Be Well, Ron[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0199 Date:07/25/90 E} Time:01:15From: DAN R. KNAUFTo: PETER A. HALESubject: Future Products (Msg #0189)Well, OSS was working on an upgrade f F}or BXE not too long before selling out toICD. I don't really look for ICD to upgrade any of OSS's products at all.They won G}'t even fix their own 8-bit products that have some prettyunprofessional bugs in them. (Namely the X-cart and the MIO.) Ta H}ke care, Dan[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0200 Date:07/25/90 Time:01:17From: DAN R. KNAUFTo: PETER A. HAL I}ESubject: Future Products (Msg #0190)Hi again, Peter. No, 4.11 is the latest version of the BXE extensions. Also,I forg J}ot to mention in the previous message, when OSS wrote BXE, there was nostandard set yet for memory upgrades in the 130XE. S K}o, I really can't faultthem too much for the way they designed it to use the extra memory. I willagree though that an upgr L}ade would have been nice. Dan[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0201 Date:07/25/90 Time:23:30From: PETER A. HA M}LETo: STAN LOWELLSubject: Future Products (Msg #0191)Thanks...[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0202 Date:07 N}/25/90 Time:23:32From: PETER A. HALETo: DAN R. KNAUFSubject: Future Products (Msg #0199)Well, as I said elsewhere, the O}merging of OSS into ICD was a tremendous lossfor the Atari market. OSS made some great carts, but now that ICD has them,th P}ey'll cease to exist soon... [183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0203 Date:07/27/90 Time:23:30From: SYSOP BOBT Q}o: JIM HALLSubject: Backup pgm (Msg #0195)Hi Jim, Yes, we have a program that will allow you to easily backup your HD R}partitions, even using compression to save disk space. Watch for it. Bob[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0204 S} Date:07/27/90 Time:23:32From: SYSOP BOBTo: TERRY BROWNINGSubject: Cartridge port extension (Msg #0196)Hi Terry, U T}nbuffered, I don't think you'll be able to go much more than a foot or twobefore you start running into problems. You'll st U}art seeing random lockupswhen using cartridges on your extension. Its a tricky situation. Bob[183-305/+] Command [? for V} Help] >N}Msg #0205 Date:07/28/90 Time:23:47From: THEODORE A. DIVITOTo: JIM HALLSubject: XF551 SECTOR COPIER (Msg #01 W}08)I've looking for a long time for a sector copier that will copy 360K disks onan XF551 utilizing extra xe/xl memory. Do X}you know a such a beast?[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0206 Date:07/28/90 Time:23:49From: THEODORE A. DIVIT Y}OTo: JIM HALLSubject: orphan magazines (Msg #0113)hell, I'd love to see another 8bit magazine. I realy miss analog, and a Z}nticisn't very promising these days.[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0207 Date:07/28/90 Time:23:51From: THEO [}DORE A. DIVITOTo: MICHAEL SAWLEYSubject: 2400/9600 (Msg #0126)I would really love this bbs if the system were faster. I'm \} using a usr 9600and I hate to sacrifice speed when I call ld.[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0208 Date:07/28 ]}/90 Time:23:55From: THEODORE A. DIVITOTo: RICHARD ROBISONSubject: 2400 SX212 (Msg #0165)I really haggled with my friend ^} who sold me the usr 9600/19.2.I traded a cts datacom 2400, a US 1050 drive, plus $125 cash.You got play "arab" sometimes t _}o get a good deal.[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0209 Date:07/28/90 Time:23:59From: THEODORE A. DIVITOTo: `}PETER A. HALESubject: reNUMbering (Msg #0182)write your programs in separate routines, that way you can renumber lines.[ a}183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0210 Date:07/29/90 Time:15:57From: JIM HALLTo: SYSOP BOBSubject: Backup pgm ( b}Msg #0203)Ok Bob I will look again. Thanksfor listening to some of myconcerns. I love my atari machinesand why thro away c} a good machinecause it's old and slow. A 130xeis a powerful machine, just thinkwhat you'd have with a small harddrive an d}d a good printer? You'dhave a system any PC person wouldlove to have. I don't care aboutspeed, I care about too many keyc e}ombinations to get one job doneand I don't like seeing a simpleprompt, when I can see all theDOS commands on one screen. f}[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0211 Date:07/29/90 Time:16:04From: JIM HALLTo: THEODORE A. DIVITOSubject: or g}phan magazines (Msg #0206)I always thaught a good topicfor a computer magazine, would be'Orphans' or 'Our Orphan Computer h}s'you see what I mean?[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0212 Date:07/29/90 Time:16:23From: TERRY BROWNINGTo: i} THEODORE A. DIVITOSubject: XF551 SECTOR COPIER (Msg #0205)I've used XECOPY to copy doublesided disks with my XF551.And X j}ECOPY is a sector copier.I'm sure MYCOPYR21 will do the trick too.[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0213 Date:0 k}7/30/90 Time:22:43From: PRENTICE O.DURDENTo: MARTY ALBERTSubject: Cartridge Expander (Msg #0146)Yeah,seems a ribbon cab l}le with a polyconnector on it might solve the "tower"problem I've had on my 800XL. [183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N m}}Msg #0214 Date:08/01/90 Time:09:29From: RICHARD E. ROBISONTo: THEODORE A. DIVITOSubject: 2400 SX212 (Msg #0208)How do n} you like the USRobotics Modem? I'm thinking of getting their 14,400model ( I'm resigned to the fact that I'll have to pay o}$500+ ) to run thecompany bbs. What we want toput it on an auto switch to save the cost of anextra line. ( Hey we're SMAL p}L )I don't know a great deal about the auto switchs, but I do know that theyrequire something called reverse modem. Do you q} , or anyone, know anythingabout reverse modem?[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0215 Date:08/04/90 Time:00:03 r}From: THEODORE A. DIVITOTo: JIM HALLSubject: orphan magazines (Msg #0211)I wouldn't just include the atari, but all othe s}r orphans as well: TI,commodore, apple, etc.[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0216 Date:08/04/90 Time:00:04Fr t}om: THEODORE A. DIVITOTo: TERRY BROWNINGSubject: XF551 SECTOR COPIER (Msg #0212)mycopier can't handle DS/DD disks -partic u}ularly in spartadis format.[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0217 Date:08/04/90 Time:00:04From: THEODORE A. DI v}VITOTo: RICHARD E. ROBISONSubject: US robotica (Msg #0214)it's the best modem I've ever had. Line noise is at an ultimate w} minimum.[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0218 Date:08/05/90 Time:09:49From: CHARLES D. KOONTZTo: PETER A. H x}ALESubject: Future Products (Msg #0183) ICD still operates the BBS at the number you quoted. The line is always busybec y}ause it's just that, one line only. Would someone please sell ICD somethinglike the CSS Multiplexer (for the type of comput z}er used on the ICD BBS) so theycan handle more than one call at a time? --Charlie--[183-305/+] Command [? for H {}elp] >N}Msg #0219 Date:08/06/90 Time:17:39From: JIM HALLTo: THEODORE A. DIVITOSubject: orphan magazines (Msg #0215) |}But where would you start a 'orphan' magazine? I am not rich but it soundsgood to me![183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N }}}Msg #0220 Date:08/06/90 Time:22:05From: SYSOP RONTo: CHARLES D. KOONTZSubject: Future Products (Msg #0218)That's a h ~}oot! Why would they want more than one line... they don't answer thequestions that do make it through. (Boy.. that sounded } UGLY... I think Chuck is getting to me!)Sorry you guys at ICD... if you want a MUX, call and well make specialarrangements }. Be Well, Ron[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >Nt ICD... if you want a MUX, call and well make specialarrangements: