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G}JB|,#P#DE 1 HI BDEHHII 1 B 1 ,^ 1 70,0La- B V,#PH},^ 1 70 0L#L!-* 1P* 1 y0Yj383}mm ݭI}}`8}``|* ? ɛ,`|:-)| / 1L!`DESTINATION CANT BE DOJ}S.SYS0 0H{ 24Δ 28/L!/) 2 Π 2 0 ξK}hAΞB,0 J 1 BDEHI,HÝDE 1HIHIDELSAVE-GIVE L}FILE,START,END(,INIT,RUN)O S0 1`BDEPHI V` S0H 1 L!M}0 0 1L~0`PLEASE TYPE 1 LETTER,0`hhL! 70 1L0L<1 ,;ɛ7,"ɛ:ݦ1ݥN}A"D|ݤD|ȩ:|ȩ|ɛ,,(/+.ީ1 1,ɛ`轤{NAMEO} TOO LONG B VL!` L1I H1EΝDL1|mDiE` V0`8d/8 i:222 1 LP}!ERROR- 138ɛ+,' 20*.. өr2 1``2TOO MANY DIGITSINVALID HEXAQ}DECIMAL PARAMETER800 0 8 00`,0'D800 H,ɛh`2L1NEED D1 THRU D8uR} ECIMAL PARAMETER800 0 8 00`,0'D800 H,ɛh`2L1NEED D1 THRU D8u}Msg #0221 Date:08/07/90 Time:04:17From: CHARLES D. KOONTZTo: SYSOP RONSubject: Future Products (Msg #0220) Well. HmT}mm. Ah. Oh. Umnn. Er, why would ICD need more than oneline on their BBS? To tell the hundreds of customers trying to geU}t their ICDproducts debugged to call someone else's exterminator, I guess. More to the point, I believe ICD has their BBV}S organized around an ST and I'munaware of anything like the great CSS "Muxer" being available for STs. Maybe ICD needs to rediscover the sophistication possible with the"simpler" Atari 8 bit computers? Hit heavy, RonX} and CSS.[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0222 Date:08/07/90 Time:20:56From: CHRIS FREEMESSERTo: CHARLES D. Y}KOONTZSubject: Future Products (Msg #0221)BTW: There are multiplexers around for the ST. The DC Port by (I forgetthe cZ}ompany) allows you to have 5 lines coming into your BBS. TheRTX Shell by Beckmeyer Development allows multitasking on the S[}T. A friend of mine is writing a BBS system which will incorporate both.Ergo, I (as SysOp) can jump around to any line I w\}ish to view, andcan do all my BBS stuff while somebody is online. Now THAT is power! My BBS will be the first beta-tester]} of this software, due outbefore the end of the year (we hope). =cf=[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0223 Da^}te:08/07/90 Time:23:14From: CHARLES D. KOONTZTo: CHRIS FREEMESSERSubject: Future Products (Msg #0222)Congratulations on_} the beta testing! Sorry I wasn't up on the latest SThardware but since I'm a devoted 8 bitter, I haven't had much reason t`}o followthe ST developments. I'm afraid if I ever should move to a 16 but computer, it won't be an ST.Atari has always bea}en too willing to cut out customer (let alone dealer)support when it's most needed. I think I'd rather go for a computer deb}signedby the same team that designed the original Atari 8 bit machines. Those whoknow will be able to immediately identifyc} the computer family to which I alude. --Charlie--[183-305/+] Command [?d} for Help] >N}Msg #0224 Date:08/10/90 Time:01:03From: JIM HALLTo: SYSOP RONSubject: Future Products (Msg #0220)Helle}o: I read alot and Current Notes isfull of ICD this or that. If theusers would slow down and askpointed questions, of slf}ik peoplelike ICD, they would find out theyneed more work done right, notband-aids to simple problems. STusers are looking}g for a good powersupply and who do they look forwardto? ICD! Why they ask cheapquestions and get cheap answers. ICD is a h}good place to go if you want tokeep your ST active, but a simplepower supply is a must! Be well kiddo and thanks![183-3i}05/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0225 Date:08/11/90 Time:00:19From: SYSOP BOBTo: THEODORE A. DIVITOSubject: orphan j}magazines (Msg #0206)Have you ever heard of the Atari Interface Magazine? Its put out by some folksin Michigan, and coverk}s both the 8-bit and ST. It should be available atWalden bookstores within the next month. Bob[183-305/+] Command [? fol}r Help] >N}Msg #0226 Date:08/13/90 Time:03:45From: PETER A. HALETo: CHARLES D. KOONTZSubject: Future Products (Msg #0m}223)Amiga? [183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0227 Date:08/16/90 Time:01:39From: CHARLES D. KOONTZTo: PETERn} A. HALESubject: Future Products (Msg #0226)JACKPOT!!! Would you like your new car delivered or will you drive it fromo} here? --Charlie--[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0228 Datep}:08/16/90 Time:23:33From: JOSEPH SLIKERTo: ALLSubject: Product ideaBecause my XF551 is my newest/"best" drive (not inclq}uding the hard drive ofcourse), I'm wary of messing with it even though the idea of turning it into a720K 3.5 drive sounds r}really attractive. _But_ I (and I suspect a bunch ofother 8-bitters) would be willing to tinker with my now-expendable 1050.s} Wouldit be possible to put a 3.5 mechanism into the 1050? If not a double sided, atleast a single sided unit. (There aret} a lot of single sided 3.5 mechanismslaying around...many of our ST brethren having yanked the original units out oftheir mu}achines to install double sided drives).[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0229 Date:08/16/90 Time:23:53From: Pv}ETER A. HALETo: CHARLES D. KOONTZSubject: Future Products (Msg #0227)Is it a 1990 ZR-1? [183-305/+] Command [? for Hw}elp] >N}Msg #0230 Date:08/17/90 Time:01:06From: PRENTICE O.DURDENTo: JOSEPH SLIKERSubject: Product idea (Msg #0228)x}You can simply "drop" the 3.5 Sony into your XF551 case with completeconfidence. Just plug the new OS ROM in and plug the twy}o wrieing harnessesup,replace the screws and power it up. You will not be sorry you did. Besmart,keep your XF' mechanisms az}s backups. :) I am glad I did.[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0231 Date:08/17/90 Time:18:08From: JOSEPH WELS{}ERTo: ALLSubject: VCR TAPE BACKUPI recently saw one of your ads in antic saying that you were working on asystem that co|}uld back up Hard Drives onto VCR Tapes. Personally, I think thisis a brilliant idea. However, I just have to ask a few que}}stions. 1) Howwould the cost compare to a streaming tape backup. A tiny casette is easier tostore than a videocassete, a~}nd if the prices were the same, I would probablyopt for the streaming tape. 2) When will this product be released? [183}-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0232 Date:08/17/90 Time:18:32From: SYSOP RONTo: JOSEPH WELSERSubject: VCR TAPE B}ACKUP (Msg #0231)Joe,A commercially available streamer will not interface to an Atari 8-bit. We wantto go the VCR route b}ecause most people already own a VCR so the cost would bekept to a minimum. Also, we would require very high quality tape an}d VCR...streamers have neither. When? Who knows... we have about a billion otherprojects to finish first. We have no idea o}f cost at this point in time. Be Well, Ron[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0233 Date:08/19/90 Time:22:12F}rom: SYSOP BOBTo: JOSEPH SLIKERSubject: Product idea (Msg #0228)Hi Joe, It would require quite a bit more hardware (n}ot to mention re-writing a bitof software inside the drive) to hook up any standard drive mech to a 1050. Itjust wasn't de}signed for anything but its specific drive mech. Bob[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0234 Date:08/25/90 Time}:14:57From: RICHARD E. ROBISONTo: THEODORE A. DIVITOSubject: US robotica (Msg #0217)Thanks for the info.[183-305/+] Co}mmand [? for Help] >N}Msg #0235 Date:08/26/90 Time:22:23From: THEODORE A. DIVITOTo: JIM HALLSubject: orphan magazines} (Msg #0219)via desktop publishing- lime most other small magazines that got biggereventually.[183-305/+] Command [? for} Help] >N}Msg #0236 Date:08/26/90 Time:22:25From: THEODORE A. DIVITOTo: SYSOP BOBSubject: orphan magazines (Msg #0225})yes i have. walden bookstores are a pain to get to around dc, but I've llokedat a few issues. not much difference between} interface and current notes.Mostly st coverage.[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0237 Date:08/29/90 Time:23:3}7From: CHARLES D. KOONTZTo: PETER A. HALESubject: Future Products (Msg #0229) Yes, and with the 24 valve, elliptical en}gine.[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0238 Date:08/31/90 Time:01:13From: PETER A. HALETo: CHARLES D. KOONTZ}Subject: Future Products (Msg #0237)It's a deal! When can I expect delivery? I'm dying to "upgrade" my old'84 Vette....} [183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0239 Date:08/31/90 Time:03:59From: CHARLES D. KOONTZTo: PETER A. HALESubj}ect: Future Products (Msg #0238) Well, there's the catch, you see. As you know, it's built only inTroglandia. You must }bear the cost of the modifications to meet U.S. safetyand emission standards. Then the shipping - on Troglodite Freight Ltd} - addsanother three grand. As, it stands, the Trogs generally pay for the exportlicense, though. } --Charlie--[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0240 Date:09/01/90 Time:04:02From: PET}ER A. HALETo: CHARLES D. KOONTZSubject: Future Products (Msg #0239)Oh. Well, I guess I'm stuck with my old '84 for now, }then, huh? [183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0241 Date:09/02/90 Time:23:06From: CHARLES D. KOONTZTo: PETER A}. HALESubject: Future Products (Msg #0240) Yeah, if "stuck with it" is the feeling you have. Ron could probably arrange}to get a Power Plus installed to swing out from the dash, together with a BBand HD. Then all you need is a modem and cellul}ar phone and you're all set. --Charlie--[183-305/+] Command [? for Help}] >N}Msg #0242 Date:09/04/90 Time:23:01From: BILL TARTTo: PETER A. HALESubject: Future Products (Msg #0183)It is VE}RY busy,,,They have a strange phone system,your modem will not pick upa busy signal but if you call them on a voice phone yo}u will hear a busy tone.At least, that's how it is calling from Houston, TX...When I told ICD aboutthis they told me I wasn}'t using my software corectly, my modem was bad, and noone else had this problem...Even though I explained to them I call al}l over theUS and Canada and have never run into this before.~i...[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0243 Date:09}/06/90 Time:01:42From: PETER A. HALETo: CHARLES D. KOONTZSubject: Future Products (Msg #0241)Cool...[183-305/+] Comma}nd [? for Help] >N}Msg #0244 Date:09/06/90 Time:01:43From: PETER A. HALETo: BILL TARTSubject: Future Products (Msg #0}242)My phone picks up ICD's busy signal, and the modem recognizes it. Maybethere's just something weird about the switchb}oard lines between Texas and ICD? [183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0245 Date:09/13/90 Time:00:41From: CHARLE}S CROWDERTo: CHARLES D. KOONTZSubject: Future Products (Msg #0223) The only problem with that if I remember correctly }is that all of thedesigners of the Amiga are long since gone including Jay Miner who absolutlelyhated the A500.[183-305/+}] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0246 Date:09/13/90 Time:05:22From: CHARLES D. KOONTZTo: CHARLES CROWDERSubject: Future} Products (Msg #0245)I think you're right about Jay. Haven't heard anything about him lately. Heand his associates weren}'t part of the later design "updates" for the Amiga.Maybe Ron can locate him and entice him to design the perfect follow-on }to theAtari 8-bit? hehe[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0247 Date:09/13/90 Time:12:45From: LONNIE M. SMITH}To: CHARLES CROWDERSubject: Future Products (Msg #0245)Humm... I wonder what's become of Jay...what he's doing these days.}And did he mention why he hated the Amiga 500? Peace... The Mage[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}M}sg #0248 Date:09/14/90 Time:00:21From: CHARLES CROWDERTo: CHARLES D. KOONTZSubject: Future Products (Msg #0246) Not} a bad idea. I do know that one of the team was working for Epyx untilthe big layoff there.[183-305/+] Command [? for Help}] >N}Msg #0249 Date:09/14/90 Time:00:22From: CHARLES CROWDERTo: LONNIE M. SMITHSubject: Future Products (Msg #0247)} The qoute was from an Amiga magazine article with him. He stated that theA500 was a "bastardization" of his work because} it put everything into one caseala, the ST. I think he was right since there were compatibility problems withthe A500 & so}me software, mostly MIDI.[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0250 Date:09/14/90 Time:15:33From: LONNIE M. SMITH}To: CHARLES CROWDERSubject: Future Products (Msg #0249)Thanx, I was curious. Did it say what his "plan" for the amiga was} and was itCommodore that "bastardized" it?[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0251 Date:09/14/90 Time:15:38Fro}m: LONNIE M. SMITHTo: WHOMEVERSubject: De-Frag As you know, SpartaX (like its MS counterpart) has a "problem" withfragm}enting files, etc. (too much). The only problem with this is adegradation in speed (access to files, etc) with the Hard dri}ve. It has notcaused me problems in lost files or anything, and i don't think it will, justthe drive performance is a conc}ern (the partitions with little or no frag arereal fast!). So far, the only solution I have is to backup/build dir/restore.} A tedious and long process with large drives.(Ron: can't wait for that backuputil you guys are working on). A de-frag wou}ld allow me to un-frag my driveand do it with out swapping floppys for hours (can start it, let it runover-nite, and have a} fast and compact drive again, because I wouldn't have tosit there the entire time swapping disks). I looked around but hav}en't seensuch a beast either for sale or in PD (probably because I hear you folks withMyDos don't have this problem with fr}agmentation). I'm even toying with theidea of writting one myself (another useless kludge!), but was wondering ifsomeone h}as already done this that I've overlooked, so I don't "reinventthe wheel". Peace...[183-305/+] Command [? fo}r Help] >N}Msg #0252 Date:09/15/90 Time:04:40From: CHARLES CROWDERTo: LONNIE M. SMITHSubject: Future Products (Msg #0}250) From the general tone of his comments it was the CEO of CBM at the timethat dreamed up the A500. It didn't really }spell out his plans for the Amigaline but I believe that the A2000-A3000 are probably from his ideas.[183-305/+] Command [}? for Help] >N}Msg #0253 Date:09/15/90 Time:23:27From: MICHAEL IVANCICTo: CHARLES CROWDERSubject: A500 (Msg #0252)G}uys,I Just sold my A500 while keeping my ST and 800XL. The Amiga was a nicecomputer but the OS sucked. It was also a lot sl}ower then the ST when it cameto graphics. I don't know why Jay M. did not like the A500. If it was justbecause the keyboard} was in the case he did not have a very good reason. I knowthat when I got my A500 I could not afford the A2000. Also the A5}00 was just ascompatable as the A2000. The problem was that neather was very compatable wihtthe A1000. I'll stick with Atar}i thank you. PS. Any news on the cartrage port expander for the 8-bit? Regards,Mike[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}}Msg #0254 Date:09/17/90 Time:01:15From: SYSOP BOBTo: LONNIE M. SMITHSubject: De-Frag (Msg #0251)I have yet to see }a de-frag utility for either DOS format. Sparta suffers mostin the fragmentation of its directories, not the files. So eve}n if someonewere to write something that just placed all the directories in one place, thatwould boost the performance sign}ificantly. MYDOS does not suffer from thisbecause directory sectors are contiguous. Bob[183-305/+] Command [? for Help]} >N}Msg #0255 Date:09/17/90 Time:13:10From: LONNIE M. SMITHTo: SYSOP BOBSubject: De-Frag (Msg #0254)Hummm....(wheel}s turning)[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0256 Date:09/19/90 Time:04:16From: DAN R. KNAUFTo: SYSOP BOBSubj}ect: De-Frag (Msg #0254)Yeah Bob, but you can only put 64 files in a MyDOS directory.[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}}Msg #0257 Date:09/20/90 Time:00:54From: PRENTICE O.DURDENTo: DAN R. KNAUFSubject: De-Frag (Msg #0256)Forgive the in}terruption but thats 64 PER directory right? MyDOS 4.50[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0258 Date:09/22/90 Tim}e:19:40From: DAN R. KNAUFTo: PRENTICE O.DURDENSubject: De-Frag (Msg #0257)Correct. Did I stutter when I said 64 files p}er directory with MyDOS? Dan[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0259 Date:09/23/90 Time:01:34From: PRENTICE O.D}URDENTo: DAN R. KNAUFSubject: De-Frag (Msg #0258)Well,it could be read as being limited to "just" 64 files period y'know }:)[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0260 Date:09/24/90 Time:00:59From: DAN R. KNAUFTo: PRENTICE O.DURDENSubj}ect: De-Frag (Msg #0259)Well, it is really only limited to JUST 64 files per subdirectory. Makes forlots of subsubsubdire}ctories if you have lots of files like I do. :)[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0261 Date:01/06/91 Time:05:20}From: ANDY WENDELTo: ALLSubject: A pollThis is in response to an idea I have been throwing around... How many of you w}ould be interested, or would honestly show interest in, a noslot Real Time clock? Basically, it would go like this. You re}move the ROM from the BB, place thisdevice in the slot provided, and replace the ROM in the slot provided by theclock. Ad}vantages (as I see them) Cartridge Stack greatly lowered. I know people with XL's stacked 4 high. Kindof ridiculous. It }isn't an ICD product. It would take up less memory than the R-Time uses. It would be more easily accessed through softwar}e. It would be more accurate. And lastly, it would be in the same price range as the R-Time, if not lower. Just thought} I would get some public opinion before I dive into this fullforce. Oh, one last advantage. If I pull this off, CSS will m}arket it.[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0262 Date:01/06/91 Time:06:39From: DAN R. KNAUFTo: ANDY WENDELSub}ject: A poll (Msg #0261)Why not expand your market and plug it in under the OS in the computer? Thatmay make for more wor}k but will expand the market to include all 8-bit ownersinstead of only blackbox owners. That may help to keep the price do}wn too.One question of importance to me: Will it be Rtime-8 compatible? Being an SDXuser, I would want it to be recognize}d/mapped the same way as the Rtime cart ifthat is possible. If those conditions were met, I have 7 working 8-bits hereand }only 3 Rtime-8's....[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0263 Date:01/06/91 Time:23:53From: ANDY WENDELTo: DAN R}. KNAUFSubject: A poll (Msg #0262)Once I get it working on the BB, I will consider doing it for the 8-bit itselfas well. }It would be a lot more work than the BB version, and (in my viewpoint)a more expensive option. As for R-Time compatibility}, I have considered going that route. If you areasking if it will use ICD's Zhandlers, the answer is no. If you are asking i}fit will do all the proper time and date stamping, keeping system time, etc,yes. It will do that. Wouldn't be worth the eff}ort of anyone if it didn't.Compatibilty is the key issue. Of course, the main reason I am doing this inthe first place is t}o wean all the 8-bitters away from ICD. Granted, they were there at on time, but call them now and ask for anything,from t}echnical advice, price quotes, or even a catalogue, and they willbasically laugh in your face. So...[183-305/+] Command [?} for Help] >N}Msg #0264 Date:01/08/91 Time:00:31From: SYSOP BOBTo: ANDY WENDELSubject: A poll (Msg #0261)Actually, }you would put the no-slot clock under the RAM. Minor thing though. The real problem as I see it is that you lose compatibi}lity with any program(like BobTerm) that talks directly to the r-time8. And the handler neededactually would take up a lit}tle more memory, since you have to give it a 64 bitpattern. But programs can always be modified. Bob[183-305/+] Command} [? for Help] >N}Msg #0265 Date:01/08/91 Time:00:50From: ANTON MALJETo: SYSOP BOBSubject: Backup pgm (Msg #0203) D}oes this program preserve Sparta subdirs and locked/unlocked status offiles?[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #02}66 Date:01/08/91 Time:02:49From: PRENTICE O.DURDENTo: ANDY WENDELSubject: A poll (Msg #0261)Aw come on Andy! The R-Tim}e-8 "is" a cart,it uses no volitile memory as is,nowyou say you know a way to use "less"? *cough*[183-305/+] Command [? fo}r Help] >N}Msg #0267 Date:01/08/91 Time:02:52From: PRENTICE O.DURDENTo: SYSOP BOBSubject: A poll (Msg #0264)Is ther}e a piticular reason why I cannot get BOBTERM 1.21 to accept theR-Tome-8 Time/Date on scree display?[183-305/+] Command [?} for Help] >N}Msg #0268 Date:01/08/91 Time:04:13From: SCOTT CATTERTONTo: PRENTICE O.DURDENSubject: A poll (Msg #0266)}Ive never messed with the R-8. Even though its a catridge, it still needs toload a handler though. Like I said, Ive neve}r messed with it so I dont knowthat for a fact.[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0269 Date:01/08/91 Time:17:26}From: SEAN MALAHYTo: ANDY WENDELSubject: A poll (Msg #0261)me... I'm interested. And then if CSS can get a deal on the }NS/clocks thenthey can market it w/ software for about (or less) than it'd cost to go and buyyour own clock. [183-305/+]} Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0270 Date:01/08/91 Time:17:30From: SEAN MALAHYTo: PRENTICE O.DURDENSubject: A poll (Msg} #0266)Oh, just cause it was a cartrige, doesn't mean that it doesn't use RAM. lookat the SDX, it uses plenty of RAM. }[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0271 Date:01/08/91 Time:23:08From: ANDY WENDELTo: SYSOP BOBSubject: A poll (}Msg #0264)Hmm, not that there are all that many programs that talk directly to the R-Time but I see your point. True, prog}rams can be altered, and making patches wouldrequire more memory, but I think I may be able to kludge my way around that if}I am careful. My biggest thing is to try to maintain compatibility as much aspossible. We shall see what happens.[183-305/}+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0272 Date:01/08/91 Time:23:10From: ANDY WENDELTo: PRENTICE O.DURDENSubject: A poll (M}sg #0266)Are you saying that the Zhand.com, TDline and related programs use no systemmemory, Mr. Durden? *cough* right bac }k. Matter of fact, if I were to do a compilation of all the docs I have, thebiggest winner of files NOT to use with others } would be those listed. Becauseof memory conflicts. What I said, in no uncertain terms, was that MY project was going to u }se lessmemory than the R-Time and related files use. And the No-Slot will not use anymemory itself. Just like the R-Time. }[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0273 Date:01/09/91 Time:00:58From: PRENTICE O.DURDENTo: SCOTT CATTERTONSubje }ct: A poll (Msg #0268)Yeah,with Sparta except the SDX it needs a handler. The Zhandler is the biggestRAM space user. The S }DX has all handlers in it so,no additional RAM what everis used for the R-time-8.[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Ms }g #0274 Date:01/09/91 Time:01:00From: PRENTICE O.DURDENTo: SEAN MALAHYSubject: A poll (Msg #0270)What SDX? The Sparta }X supercartridge I am using (4.20) uses "no RAM".Everthing is in the cartridge ROMs,have you got Sparta SDX? Read the book, }youwill be glad you did,I know I was.That is one of the reasons I would like to have MyDOS in a cart,it would makeall kind }s of goodies available *drool*[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0275 Date:01/09/91 Time:01:04From: PRENTICE O. }DURDENTo: ANDY WENDELSubject: A poll (Msg #0272)I want one when you get done. You know the R-Time-8 is not even recog niz }ed asa cart by the computer :). If using Sparta DOS-X the clock handlers are all inthe carts ROM. No RAM is needed or uswd }with SDX. Sorry I did not take intoaccount the "other" versions of Sparta and other DOSes too. I need two moresystem clocks },I ask only one thing. Please put a battery "clip" into it ratherthan just soldering the battery in :)[183-305/+] Command }[? for Help] >N}Msg #0276 Date:01/09/91 Time:01:54From: DAN R. KNAUFTo: ANDY WENDELSubject: A poll (Msg #0263)You s }ure don't have to tell ME about ICD, heh. I probably wouldn't beinterested in the no-slot-clock if it didn't support the td }line in SDX. If aSparta compatible tdline came with it it is possible I would be interested inone or two for my non-SDX sy }stems.[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0277 Date:01/09/91 Time:20:34From: JOSEPH SLIKERTo: ANDY WENDELSubje }ct: A poll (Msg #0261)I don't think I'd want to pay $45 or $50 bux for it, but if it could be had forsomewhat less than th }at, be reasonably easy to install and compatible withSpartaDOS, I'd be very interested.*s[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] } >N}Msg #0278 Date:01/10/91 Time:01:18From: SYSOP BOBTo: ANTON MALJESubject: Backup pgm (Msg #0265)The HD Backup Pr }o does fully save the directory paths, and creates thenecessary directories on a restore. The locked status however is not }saved; asthere really is no need. Bob[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0279 Date:01/10/91 Time:01:19From: S }YSOP BOBTo: PRENTICE O.DURDENSubject: r-time8 with BobTerm (Msg #0267)Hi prentice, Just press Shift Control Y, and th }e online timer is swapped with the timefrom the time cart. Bob[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0280 Date:01/ }10/91 Time:01:21From: SYSOP BOBTo: PRENTICE O.DURDENSubject: A poll (Msg #0273)Actually, I believe you need to use CLOC }K.SYS instead of the JIFFY.SYS in SDXif you have an r-time8. These drivers ARE loaded into memory; as all the SDXdrivers a }re. Load up SDX on a stock 800, and you'll see exactly how muchmemory the sucker takes. Bob[183-305/+] Command [? for H }elp] >N}Msg #0281 Date:01/10/91 Time:01:23From: SYSOP BOBTo: JOSEPH SLIKERSubject: A poll (Msg #0277)Hi Joe, Th }e no-slot clock ads I've seen run around $30-40 for the chip itself, sochances are the price would be at least that much. U }nless we find em for $.50each.. heh. Bob[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0282 Date:01/10/91 Time:04:59From }: PRENTICE O.DURDENTo: SYSOP BOBSubject: r-time8 with BobTerm (Msg #0279)It is true,the "time" is swaped but alas,the Dat }e is no where to be foundalso,I want both TDLINE an On Line time displayed simutaniously. Like this BobPuff 1.10 I am using !} now! :-)[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0283 Date:01/10/91 Time:05:02From: PRENTICE O.DURDENTo: SYSOP BOB "}Subject: A poll (Msg #0280)Clock.sys is the default driver for the cart clock but either one will work,soI might just "try #}" the Jiffy driver.[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0284 Date:01/13/91 Time:02:08From: SEAN MALAHYTo: PRENTI $}CE O.DURDENSubject: A poll (Msg #0274)yeah, I've read it front to back and back to front again... just because ituses les %}s memory doesn't mean it uses NO memory. what do you think all those.SYS files are? they are placed in the mem. if I recall &}... the drivers thatis. [183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0285 Date:01/13/91 Time:02:11From: SEAN MALAHYTo: '} PRENTICE O.DURDENSubject: A poll (Msg #0275)with Andy's clock, there won't be an actual changable battery, its built into (}the chip. The chip will look just like a solder-in socket for a PROM chip, butit goes inbetween the chip and the actual so )}cket. very small. [183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0286 Date:01/14/91 Time:10:45From: SYSOP BOBTo: PRENTIC *}E O.DURDENSubject: r-time8 with BobTerm (Msg #0282)ICD's TDLINE adds a lot of flakiness to the term. Go back and forth be +}tweendifferent screens in BobTerm fast enough, and it will lock up. Also, moreprocessor time is wasted in keeping another ,}line updated. It wouldn't hurtwith slower baud rates, but when you get up to 19.2k baud, things get a littletight. Bob -}[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0287 Date:01/14/91 Time:10:48From: SYSOP BOBTo: SEAN MALAHYSubject: A poll ( .}Msg #0285)Don't forget those no-slot clock chips need to go under a RAM, unless thesocket is modified. Bob[183-305/+] /}Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0288 Date:01/14/91 Time:20:00From: SEAN MALAHYTo: SYSOP BOBSubject: A poll (Msg #0287) 0}Is it under RAM? ok... where is the RAM on the BB? isn't it the socketed chipdirectly below the Eprom? (the one marked 'BB 1}1.14'?) [183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0289 Date:01/14/91 Time:23:23From: PRENTICE O.DURDENTo: SEAN MALAH 2}YSubject: A poll (Msg #0284)Yeah,I was speaking of all the goodies in the SDX or was it the ...oh,theR-time-8. Yup. The " 3}only" mem required for it is for the clock drivers. If youcan come up with a "better" deal even at a slightly higher cost,I 4} will go forit.Prentice[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0290 Date:01/14/91 Time:23:26From: PRENTICE O.DURDE 5}NTo: SYSOP BOBSubject: r-time8 with BobTerm (Msg #0286)Okay. Well I like the Time & Date display so,I will stick with Bob 6}term 1.01.[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0291 Date:01/16/91 Time:14:28From: SEAN MALAHYTo: PRENTICE O.DURD 7}ENSubject: A poll (Msg #0289)Yeah, the no-slot idea of Andy's, which I've talked to him at great lengthsabout, MIGHT take 8} a little more memory, but nothing major if any... I lovedthe idea of the clock, just because, like Andy, I dislike ICD, an 9}d theirequipment in not only non-UL listed, its also very un-reliable. [183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0292 :}Date:01/18/91 Time:05:10From: PRENTICE O.DURDENTo: SEAN MALAHYSubject: A poll (Msg #0291)ICD seems to not have a Custom ;}er Relations sensetivity mind set. If I told ICDwhat I told CSS about Sparta not functioning properly for me they would've t <}oldme to "read-the-book" but CSS told me "how and what" to do to get even a DOSthey are not obligated to support to LOAD an =}d RUN for me. I now have the bestrunning XF551/Sony 3.5 conversion in Mid Michigan and it is because Ron & Bobwere will to >}work with me. Thanks CSS[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0293 Date:01/18/91 Time:09:07From: SYSOP RONTo: PRE ?}NTICE O.DURDENSubject: A poll (Msg #0292)POD, Thank you for your comments! You know, all of you guys are pretty smart... @}. youkeep making all at CSS blush with your comments of praise (which Bob and Ishare with everyone here) and it gives us al A}l a lift but it also obligates usto continue giving you the extra support. Smart.... very smart! (-: ( But honestly, I'm B} a believer in the Golden Rule!) Be Well,Ron[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0294 Date:01/18/91 Time:23:33 C}From: JOSEPH SLIKERTo: SYSOP BOBSubject: A poll (Msg #0281)Well, I guess if it is a CSS product, I'll be interested anywa D}y (but my wallet_is_ all warmed up to buy a copy of Puff II...sometime soon maybe? Hmmm?)[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] E} >N}Msg #0295 Date:01/19/91 Time:00:10From: PRENTICE O.DURDENTo: SYSOP RONSubject: A poll (Msg #0293)For sure,the G F}olden Rule does work! It is after all the little things thatcount :-)[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0296 Dat G}e:01/19/91 Time:01:10From: SYSOP BOBTo: SEAN MALAHYSubject: A poll (Msg #0288)Yes, the chip under the PROM is a static H}RAM chip. Bob[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0297 Date:01/19/91 Time:13:19From: SYSOP RONTo: JOSEPH SLIKE I}RSubject: A poll (Msg #0294)Soon? Hahahahahahahahaha.... [183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0298 Date:01/20/9 J}1 Time:16:38From: THEODORE A. DIVITOTo: SYSOP RONSubject: parallel drive kitI'm interested in when the parallel drive b K}oard for the BB will be out?[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0299 Date:01/21/91 Time:01:58From: SEAN MALAHYT L}o: SYSOP RONSubject: A poll (Msg #0293)oh admit it! you get sick of hearing from me and you know it!!!! hahaha [183-30 M}5/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0300 Date:01/21/91 Time:01:59From: SEAN MALAHYTo: SYSOP BOBSubject: A poll (Msg #02 N}96)figured it was... so is that where the 64k RAM spooler goes too? heheh um, Ifigured it was by the chip #.. 12oNS, rig O}ht? [183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0301 Date:01/21/91 Time:10:01From: SYSOP RONTo: THEODORE A. DIVITOSub P}ject: parallel drive kit (Msg #0298)Ted, Hard to say but March looks good. Be Well,Ron[183-305/+] Command [? for Hel Q}p] >N}Msg #0302 Date:01/27/91 Time:16:38From: SYSOP BOBTo: SEAN MALAHYSubject: RAM chip (Msg #0300)Yes, that's the R}one. speed isn't critical. Bob[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0303 Date:01/30/91 Time:02:41From: ANTON MA S}LJETo: SYSOP BOBSubject: Backup pgm (Msg #0278) The BBS uses the lock status to mark that a file has been vailidated.[ T}183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0304 Date:01/31/91 Time:03:15From: SCOTT CATTERTONTo: ANTON MALJESubject: Bac U}kup pgm (Msg #0303)Do you use Oasis?[183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0305 Date:01/31/91 Time:23:53From: ANT V}ON MALJETo: SCOTT CATTERTONSubject: Backup pgm (Msg #0304) Yes, I run Oasis 4.7, 4MBEs, 48Megs 300/2400 313-278-6466. W}Drop by![183-305/+] Command [? for Help] >NEnd of messages in this baseScanning base Buy&Sell and Specials }Msg #0 X}062 Date:06/27/90 Time:18:45From: SYSOP RONTo: ALLSubject: More Goodies!Here's some more specials:1. Like new - Magna Y}vox 80 column green monitors with sound... $59.95!2. An 830 acoustical modem... $5. Other modems (300 baud)... $10.3. Casse Z}tte machines (410 and/or 1010 - not sure about 1010 power suppliesthough).... $5.4. Brand new in the box Atari Bookeeper pr [}ogram WITH numeric keypad.... $15.5. 400's and 800's and 800xl's that have been canabalized for parts (but stillover 90% of \} all parts are intact)...$10 - $20.6. 1050 carcasses that have been canableized (and without cases)... $20.7. Sony 3.5" dri ]}ves (brand NEW)... $59.95!8. 3" Hi-output 110 volt Muffen FANS with on/off switch... $9.959. 115 watt power supply with lar ^}ge whisper fan. Full metal case, twin powerleads withpower connects, instrument AC line cord, fused, 115/230 voltinput,larg _}e on/off switch, taken new from ITT computers.... 49.95.15. We have thounsands of disks with programs on them. We can't sell `} you theprograms but we can sell you the disks as blanks....$1/disk...no requests forspecific programs please (every thing a}is sold "pot-luck"....$1. OK gang, that should keep you busy until our next inventory clearence. Be Well, Ron[62-190/+ b}] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0063 Date:06/29/90 Time:01:17From: JIM SAMPLESTo: JOSEPH SLIKERSubject: Wanted: XE key c}board (Msg #0060)You can get the Keyboard wafer from Best Electronics in Calif. I'm sorry, but Idont hve the phone number d}at my side but they advertise in most Atari softwarepublications, I have even seen them through 'Club' journals .. [62-19 e}0/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0064 Date:06/29/90 Time:23:22From: JOSEPH SLIKERTo: JIM SAMPLESSubject: Wanted: XE f}keyboard (Msg #0063)Thanks much for the tip Jim, I'll check it out![62-190/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0065 Date: g}07/01/90 Time:04:37From: DAN R. KNAUFTo: JOSEPH SLIKERSubject: Wanted: XE keyboard (Msg #0060)You will be pretty lucky q}B%DOS SYSB*)DUP SYSBSCSSLOGD TXTto find a used keyboard. They are the first thing togo on the XE's. I have 4 130XE's here that are fully functional except r} for the4 dead keyboards. I have hooked an IBM keyboard up to an ABCD switch to runthem. (No, you don't, it was too much s}work, heh.) Have you looked into thetranskey? Also, B&C Computervision sells an old style xe keyboard for $22. Idon't th t}ink there is much difference between old and new styles and it is allunderneath. Good luck, Dan[62-190/+] Command [? for u}Help] >N}Msg #0066 Date:07/01/90 Time:15:36From: JOSEPH SLIKERTo: DAN R. KNAUFSubject: Wanted: XE keyboard (Msg #0065 v})Thanks for the reply/suggestions. Can anyone turn me on to Best Electronicsaddress and phone number? I've been digging w}through my old Analogs & Anticsand cannot find any references thereto.[62-190/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0067 Dat x}e:07/03/90 Time:04:38From: DAN R. KNAUFTo: JOSEPH SLIKERSubject: Wanted: XE keyboard (Msg #0066)Hi Joe, Best Electronic y}s Phone # is: 408-243-6950 I don't have their address handy. Also, B&C Computervisions # is: 408-749-6950 I don' z}t know if you wanted that last one, but they DO have 130xe keyboards for$22.00+shipping. Hope these numbers help, Dan.[62 {}-190/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0068 Date:07/03/90 Time:19:40From: JOSEPH SLIKERTo: DAN R. KNAUFSubject: Wanted: |} XE keyboard (Msg #0067)Thanks much for the info Dan!I've just spent the last couple of hours wading through old mags with }} no luck.[62-190/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0069 Date:07/04/90 Time:18:47From: DAN R. KNAUFTo: JOSEPH SLIKERSu ~}bject: Wanted: XE keyboard (Msg #0068)Glad to help.[62-190/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0070 Date:07/04/90 Time:1 }8:48From: DAN R. KNAUFTo: SYSOP RONSubject: Xebec controllers.Hi Ron, will the controllers you are having the special on } handle theSyquest removables? I have a SQ319 here that I am having trouble formatting onmy Adaptec controller. Also, bei }ng unfamiliar with the Xebecs, these are MFMaren't they? (The controllers I mean.) Thanks, Dan[62-190/+] Command [? for }Help] >N}Msg #0071 Date:07/06/90 Time:20:40From: EDWARD CATLINTo: ALLSubject: FOR SALE1 Air conditioner for sale, 1 }0,000 BTU. 150 firm, leave email....[62-190/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0072 Date:07/11/90 Time:21:15From: PETER }A. HALETo: JOSEPH SLIKERSubject: Wanted: XE keyboard (Msg #0066)American Technivision (they usually advertise in Antic) h }as the XE Keyboards.I just bought one from them a few weeks ago to replace my dead keyboard... [62-190/+] Command [? for }Help] >N}Msg #0073 Date:07/14/90 Time:00:27From: JASON HEDRICKTo: ALLSubject: TOUCH TABLET, ANYONE?IS THERE ANYBODY } OUT THERE WHOKNOWS WHERE A GUY CAN GET ANAT LEAST HALFWAY-DECENT ATARITOUCH TABLET AT A HALFWAY DECENTPRICE?[EXPECTING T }HE ANSWER 'NO',AND DUCKING]IF YA DO, JUST LEAVE A MESSAGE.(DUH.)[62-190/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0074 Date:07 }/15/90 Time:23:24From: CHRIS FREEMESSERTo: ALLSubject: for saleFor sale: Atari 600xl with internal 64k upgrade. Incl }udes power supply, TV cableand box. Great condition. Would like $30 for it, but will take offers.Please leave offers here }, or on my BBS: ACORN Nuthouse716-436-30782400 baud/42 megs =cf=[62-190/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0075 Date }:07/17/90 Time:00:04From: SYSOP RONTo: JASON HEDRICKSubject: TOUCH TABLET, ANYONE? (Msg #0073)Jason, We might have one }... what's it worth to you? Be Well, Ron[62-190/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0076 Date:07/18/90 Time:01:53From }: JASON HEDRICKTo: SYSOP RONSubject: (MESSAGE #0073) (Msg #0075) IT WOULD PROBABLY BE WORTH ABOUT$30-$40 TO ME. THAT'S }ABOUT ALLI COULD REALLY AFFORD. IT WOULD BEABOUT A MONTH BEFORE I COULD BUY ITTHOUGH. IF YOU HAVE ONE,IDEFINITELY WANT IT } AS LONG ASEVERYTHING IS INTACT. THANKS, JASON HEDRICK P.S. AM I PESTERING YOU TOO MUCH? }?[62-190/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0077 Date:07/26/90 Time:14:30From: JASON HEDRICKTo: SYSOP RON OR BOBSubjec }t: CASSETTE MACINES(MSG.#0062)I WAS WONDERING ABOUT THE CASSETTEMACHINES MENTIONED IN THIS BASE FOR$5.00. WHAT CONDITION }ARE THEY IN?DO THEY COME WITH POWER SUPPLIES?HOW MUCH IS SHIPPING? I'MINTERESTED IN BUYING A 1010. THAN }X, JASON HEDRICK[62-190/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0078 Date:07/27/90 Time:21:53From: SYSOP RONT }o: JASON HEDRICKSubject: CASSETTE MACINES(MSG.#0062) (Msg #0077)Jason,The $5 units are the 410 and they have a built in P }S. The $10 units are the1010 and come with a PS and for $3 more, I can give you one with a matchingdustcover! Be Well, }Ron[62-190/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0079 Date:07/28/90 Time:12:29From: JASON HEDRICKTo: SYSOP RONSubject: CA }SSETTE MACINES(MSG.#0062) (Msg #0078)I WAS JUST WONDERING. WHAT CONDITIONARE THEY IN? I TRUST THAT THEY WORK,AND I WANT O }NE EITHER WAY. I WASJUST CURIOUS. BY THE WAY, DID YOU OR RON GETMY MESSAGE FROM THIS BASE ABOUT AKOALA PAD?? } THANKS, JASON HEDRICK Jesus is King![62-190/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0 }080 Date:08/03/90 Time:07:15From: RAMON F. RUSSETo: JASON HEDRICKSubject: TOUCH TABLET, ANYONE? (Msg #0073)TRY AMERICA }N TECHNA-VISION. THEY HAVE ONE THAT I PURCHASED FOR $79. [62-190/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0081 Date:08/05/90 T }ime:00:48From: SYSOP RONTo: JASON HEDRICKSubject: CASSETTE MACINES(MSG.#0062) (Msg #0079)Jasson, Very good condition. } What about the K. Pad? Be Well, Ron[62-190/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0082 Date:08/05/90 Time:15:43From: J }ASON HEDRICKTo: SYSOP RONSubject: NO, KOALA PAD. (Msg #0081) I'LL BE SENDING THE MONEY ORDERIN ABOUT TWO WEEKS FOR THE } 1010.I'M THROWING IN THREE BUCKS FORA DUST COVER.BOB TOLD ME ABOUTTHAT ONE.NOW, ABOUT THE TOUCH TABLET.(HEHEH) IF YOU }HAVE ONE WITHEVERYTHING INTACT, I WILL MOSTLIKELY WANT IT.(DEPENDING ON THEPRICE, WHICH PROBABLY WON'T BETOO MUCH.)JUST } LET ME KNOW IF YA FINDANYTHING. TAKE CARE. THANKS, TERRANCE JASON HEDRICK[62-190/+] Command } [? for Help] >N}Msg #0083 Date:08/06/90 Time:19:24From: JASON HEDRICKTo: SYSOP RONSubject: XM301 THAT WORKS<--KEY WO }RD HELLO, IT IS I, ONCE AGAIN.I WAS JUST WONDERING HOW MUCHAN XM301 W/XE*TERM AND MANUAL WOULDBE WORTH TOWARD TRADE. } TERRANCE JASON HEDRICK[62-190/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0084 Date:08/06/90 Time:22:10From: SYSOP RON }To: JASON HEDRICKSubject: XM301 THAT WORKS<--KEY WORD (Msg #0083)TJ,ZERO> Sorry, maybe if you post it someone might ha }ve a need for one... but not us!BeWell, Ron[62-190/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0085 Date:08/07/90 Time:16:13Fr }om: JASON HEDRICKTo: ALLSubject: XM301 FOR SALE FOR SALE: XM301 300 BAUD MODEM MANUAL } XE*TERM SOFTWARE $15.00! OR MAKE ME AN } OFFER! NO REASONABLE OFFER WILL BEREFUSED! I HAVE GOT TO SELL THIS! ************** *MUS }T SELLDDDDDDDDD~~CCCCCCCCCCCDDDDDDDDDDD^CCCCCCCCCC! * **************IF Y }OU'RE INTERESED, LEAVE E-MAIL,OR CALL(513)778-8138 AND ASK FORJASON HEDRICK.[62-190/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #00 }86 Date:08/07/90 Time:23:07From: SYSOP RONTo: ALLSubject: Remote keyboard KitOK gang... we're ready to rock and roll!! }! We've got the Deluxe Transkey kitwith remote IBM type keyboard (84 keys) now available for $99.95. In most casesit's sold }erless. The keyboard quality is HIGH! and this thing works great! We might have an even more sophisticated keyboard availab }le shortly... thepackage price being $139.95 (but I really can't see why anyone would wantanything more than this one that }I'm using now!). Everything is prewired andtested. Just plug it in and sit back in your easy chair and type (all sorts ofMa }cros for Basic, Mac 65, etc. are built in). To order, leave message to Sysop Ron in E-Mail or phone me at (716)586-5545. } Be Well, Ron[62-190/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0087 Date:08/10/90 Time:22:04From: JOSEPH SLIKERTo: SYSOP RO }NSubject: XM301 THAT WORKS<--KEY WORD (Msg #0084)I just sold my XM301 (my first modem) for $10 a couple of months ago. I }probably could have held out for a bit more, but it went to a new 8-bitter whoneeded all the help he could get (ie he needed } to be online with other8-bitters). I have fond memories of the 301, I _really_ liked the fact that ithad no external powe }r supply. 300 baud is about my reading speed, but then Ilearned to download....[62-190/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg }#0090 Date:08/17/90 Time:19:55From: CHRIS FREEMESSERTo: ALLSubject: misc comp. stuff for saleThe following goodies are } for sale: 8-bit cartridges - $3.50 each:------------------------------3-D Tic Tac Toe, Asteroids, Bounty Bob Strikes Bac }k, Centipede, Dig Dug,Donkey Kong, Eastern Front, Joust, Megamania, Missile Command, MountainKing, Pac-Man, Star Raiders, S }tar Trek, Submarine Commander, BASIC. 8-bit disks (all originals)---------------------------Archon II - $5, Knights of th }e Desert - $5, Spartados (don't HISS!) - $5,VT100 Term emulator (from Antic) - $1, Personal Finance & Education - $1. I al }so have two Epson SMD-130A drive mechanisms. These are 3.5 inch,SS/DD drive mechs which have been removed from ST drives an }d replaced withDS mechs. Both are in perfect working condition. $25 each. Finally, I've got an Atari SM124 mono monitor }(for the ST). $100 or bestoffer takes it. Great condition. Interested in anything? Feel free to leave me E-mail here, o }r on my BBS: ACORN Nuthouse716-436-30782400 baud, 24 HRS a day. [62-190/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0091 Date: }08/23/90 Time:22:28From: RICK JONESTo: ALLSubject: For Sale800 XL w/256k RAMBlack Box w/P,R & floppy cables810 Happy }Drive w/software1010 Program recordercx85 KeypadSpeech synth (home made) Astra Floppy controllerATR-Interface(both nee }d repair) Some replacement IC's for various Atari units. software:Letter WizardRubber StampFree TraderSnooper Troops }Train DispatcherSpace Station ZuluRosen's BrigadeLeader Board (dual pack) BooksYour Atari ComputerMapping the AtariMa }stering Your Atari w/disk+ alot of ORIGINAL doc's (the disks got stolen but I still have the doc's) 100 blank disksextra }I/O cables SEE NEXT MESSAGE!!![62-190/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0092 Date:08/23/90 Time:22:35From: RICK JONES }To: ALLSubject: FOR SALEPlus I will throw in any more 8-bit hardware or software I find laying aroundat no extra cost.N }ow the biggie.....$500 FIRM (well maybe)Call the Big City BBS and leave me a MSG if you are interested (message tosysop). }The Big City BBS501-532-6145 Rick[62-190/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0093 Date:08/24/90 T }ime:16:23From: THOMAS PECKTo: ALLSubject: ATARI 520 ST FOR SALEFOR SALE: ATATI 520 ST COMPUTER WITH INTERNAL SS DISK DRI }VE,ATATI COLOR MONITOR, 2nd EXTERNAL SS DISK DRIVE, CANON BJ-80 PRINTER,MOUSE, JOYSTICKS, AND TONS OF SOFTWARE !!!ALL FOR }THE INCREDIBLE PRICE OF ...........$500 or Best Offer !!! Call TOM PECK 271-0005 (nights & weekends) 263-6028 (days)[62 }-190/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0094 Date:08/26/90 Time:22:28From: THEODORE A. DIVITOTo: ALLSubject: hard disk f }or saleSeagate 225 1/2 height hard disk drive. 20/30 megs (call me for info.)stock ibm type drive. no controller. Fully gu }aranteed for 30 days. Tested.dox included.$125.00Call Ted 301-277-7899[62-190/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0095 D }ate:08/27/90 Time:23:26From: RICK JONESTo: THOMAS PECKSubject: ATARI 520 ST FOR SALE (Msg #0093)I'll trade ya my 8-bit }system for it. See my msg elswhere in this msg section. Rick[62-190/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0096 } Date:08/28/90 Time:00:21From: THEODORE A. DIVITOTo: ALLSubject: mio for sale256K Mio. works fine. with dox. $150 as-i }s.Call Ted 301-277-7899[62-190/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0097 Date:09/03/90 Time:21:59From: THEODORE A. DIVITO }To: ALLSubject: wantedA good working dot matrix epson compatible printer.[62-190/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #009 }8 Date:09/08/90 Time:06:36From: RICK JONESTo: ALLSubject: for sale See MSG 91......the price is now $400 and that is }as low as it will go. Leavea MSG here or call my board for info. The Big City....501-532-6145[62-190/+] Command [? for H }elp] >N}Msg #0100 Date:09/13/90 Time:00:58From: CHARLES CROWDERTo: ALLSubject: B/Graph I am looking for the form }er Batteries Included program - B/Graph. Ifanybody has one for sale, leave me a message here or on the Atari Scene BBS at50 }2-456-4292.[62-190/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0101 Date:09/13/90 Time:19:15From: NICKY NOWINSKITo: THOMAS PECK }Subject: ATARI 520 ST FOR SALE (Msg #0093)I MAY BE ABLE TO BY IT WOULD TAKE2 MONTHS OKAY NICKY }PS: HOW ABOUT 450[62-190/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0102 Date:09/19/90 Time:01:30From: THEODORE A. DIVITOTo: A }LLSubject: mio for sale256k. good condition w/ dox. Make an offer. 301p559-0436[62-190/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg } #0103 Date:09/19/90 Time:15:10From: SYSOP RONTo: THEODORE A. DIVITOSubject: mio for sale (Msg #0102)To Pete Hale, H }ey Pete! Did you see this? Buy it... then you can be one of us instead of theodd-ball! Be Well, Ron[62-190/+] Command }[? for Help] >N}Msg #0104 Date:09/21/90 Time:00:43From: CHRISTOPHER LEETo: ALLSubject: SOFTWARE WANTEDHELLO, I AM } LOOKING FOR ANYTHING ICAN GET MY HANDS ON, BEIT CART,DISK, OR CASSETTE. IF YOU HAVEANYTHING YOU WANT TO GET RID OFLEAVE }ME A MESSAGE. NO PIRATEDSTUFF. CHRIS[62-190/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0105 Date:09/21/90 Time:01 }:27From: SYSOP RONTo: CHRISTOPHER LEESubject: SOFTWARE WANTED (Msg #0104)Chris,Well you hit the jackpot! We just cleane }d the place up and have hundreds ofitems/programs. How much of a budget do you have? Do you need hardwareeg:j-sticks, paddl }es, touch tablet, track-ball, power supplys, printers,80column monitors with sound, defective drive mechs and mother boards, }HD's,etc. Get in touch soon (716) 5865545. Be Well,Ron[62-190/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0106 Date:09/21/90 T }ime:04:48From: CHARLES CROWDERTo: SYSOP RONSubject: SOFTWARE WANTED (Msg #0105) How much for a good 80 col. moni with } or without sound?[62-190/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0107 Date:09/21/90 Time:07:52From: SYSOP RONTo: CHARLES CR }OWDERSubject: SOFTWARE WANTED (Msg #0106)Charles,$50! It's a MINT MINT Magnavox 80 column green screen monitor with sound }(ideally suited for our 80 column word processor - no additional hardwarerequired!). Original cost (manufacturers retail) w }as $149.95. They are GOOD! Wehave 8 or 9 just sitting in the warehouse so I'm blowing them out for $50 plusfreight. Is ther }e any thing else you might need? Be Well,Ron[62-190/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0108 Date:09/21/90 Time:22:27F }rom: JOSEPH WELSERTo: SYSOP RONSubject: SOFTWARE WANTED (Msg #0107)$50? Wow, that's a bargain!What are they Monochrome, } and if so, what color? Got anything else like that?By the way, is anybody selling a Basic XE Cartridge? [62-190/+] Comm }and [? for Help] >N}Msg #0109 Date:09/21/90 Time:23:10From: SYSOP RONTo: JOSEPH WELSERSubject: Color (Msg #0108)Hi }Joe,They're color is green... how many do you want? They make GREAT Christmaspresents! Be Well,Ron[62-190/+] Command }[? for Help] >N}Msg #0110 Date:09/22/90 Time:01:36From: PETER A. HALETo: SYSOP RONSubject: mio for sale (Msg #0103) }Well, I already have two! Actually, from what I've heard of the BB, assuming it'S all true, I probablywould rather have a }BB. But I gotta wait until BOTH my MIO's die first...Maybe I'll never get BB... /[62-190/+] Command [? for Help] >N} }Msg #0111 Date:09/22/90 Time:01:37From: PETER A. HALETo: CHRISTOPHER LEESubject: SOFTWARE WANTED (Msg #0104)I have a f }ew original boot disk games (like Threshold, Crush/Crumble and Chomp,etc...).Interested?I still have the docs/manuals to m }ost of them. How much are you willing to pay? [62-190/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0112 Date:09/24/90 Time:04: }28From: CHARLES CROWDERTo: SYSOP RONSubject: SOFTWARE WANTED (Msg #0107) I'll be sending an additional $50 for the mo }nitor next Tuesday. I gottareplace this Apple monitor. Can't get the screen width down to where I can seethe whole 80 colum }ns.[62-190/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0113 Date:09/24/90 Time:18:57From: SYSOP RONTo: CHARLES CROWDERSubject: }Moniyor (Msg #0112)Chuck, that's $50 plus S/H/I. Should be about $60 totalBe Well,Ron[62-190/+] Command [? for Help] >N }}Msg #0114 Date:09/27/90 Time:01:17From: PRENTICE O.DURDENTo: SYSOP RONSubject: Monitor (Msg #0113)Ron,I guess I wi }ll get one of the monitors too. $60.00 is what repair cost meon my color display40 Magnavox 13" monitor :(. So $60.00 will b }ring it to me soI will send in my order Wendsday. Glad you have them on hand. :)[62-190/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg }#0116 Date:09/30/90 Time:09:51From: CHRISTOPHER LEETo: ALLSubject: 65XEGAME MACHINEHOWDY, ANYONE INTERESTED IN A 65XE }BRAND NEW? IF SO MAKE ME AN OFFER. CHRISTOPHER LEE[62-190/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0117 Date:10/02/90 Time:1 }9:14From: CHRIS FREEMESSERTo: ALLSubject: big 8-bit saleCheck out File #7 in the Product Review section. It contains ro }ughly150 titles of software currently for sale! File contains all informationyou need. If interested, leave me an E-mail }message HERE, or one ofthe methods listed in the file. =cf=[62-190/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0118 Date:10/07/9 }0 Time:22:20From: WILLIAM E. WYNNETo: ALLSubject: sale of equipmentAtari 800xl w/256k, ultraspeed, ramdisk write protec }t all by CSSAtari 1050 w/super archiver II and silencer by CSSQuantum 20meg industrial mainframe bulletproof hard drive (in }dustructable forany type of use but great for BBS or business files where loss would bedisasterous)Black box from CSSPana }sonic Monochrome monitor w/soundAtari 1030 modem100's of programs with docs and most of CSS software (enables use of protec }tedsoftware on hard driveAll purchased within past year Cost over $1800 ----- Sale $775.00orAtari 800xl w/ultraspeed by C }SSIndus Disk drive w/silencer by CSSApple monichrome monitorAbove hard drive, black box, Atari modem, and programsAll for } $500.00 firmCall me at 914-344-0797\s[62-190/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0121 Date:10/13/90 Time:00:22From: JO }SEPH WELSERTo: SYSOP RONSubject: Monitors (Msg #0109)Got any left? I haven't called in a while, and I forgot all about t }hem. Ifyou do, could you save me one for a little while(not long), I am a student, andtherefore, have a limited amont of m }oney. My disk drive is a little caput, andI have to get a new one. Ron, CSS has a repair serviec right? Well, can youhel }p me with this: My 1050 drive reads and writes perfectly as long as it isin Single Density. Another peculiar thing about i }t is, when you first turn thedrive on, it will read, write and format correctly in Double or Enhanced, butafter a little wh }ile it doesn't work. Anyway, if you've got any of those monitors left, I'll be sending in my $60 ina little while. [62- }190/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0122 Date:10/13/90 Time:04:36From: PRENTICE O.DURDENTo: JOSEPH WELSERSubject: Mon }itors (Msg #0121)The moniter is really nice,I am typing on mine now. I asked for Blue Label andthis $60.00 monitor jumped }to $77.00. (groan) Blue label was $3.00 the adsaid,it woined up costing $17.00[62-190/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0 }123 Date:10/14/90 Time:07:58From: ROBERT BURTTTo: ALLSubject: Old Atari stuff...Does anyone have or know where I might } get an Atari 1400xl, 1450xld, 1055 or1090 expansion box, also and 815 disk drive? There were a few made but not soldsold i }n stores./b Rassilon[62-190/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #012 }4 Date:10/14/90 Time:11:35From: MICHAEL E. SCHMIDTTo: ALLSubject: ATARI TOUCH TABLETI'M LOOKING FOR AN ATARI TOUCH TAB }LET. IF ANYBOBY HAS ONE FOR SALE - CALL ME AT612-757-4192.[62-190/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0125 Date:10/14/90 }Time:11:49From: BILL TARTTo: SYSOP RONSubject: Remote keyboard Kit (Msg #0086)I have a question, There are certain envir }oments that use the IBM keypad keys,The EDT editor in the VAX/VMS systems. If I have the IBM keyboard and connectto a VAX w }ith a VT100 emulator or and Comm. program, will the system know if Iuse a keypad key?[62-190/+] Command [? for Help] >N }}Msg #0126 Date:10/14/90 Time:18:59From: CHRISTOPHER LEETo: ROBERT BURTTSubject: Old Atari stuff... (Msg #0123)LOOK HA }RD, I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR ABOUT AYEAR NOW AND HAVENT EVEN COMECLOSE. THE ONLY PLACE I HAVEN'TTRIED IS ATARI. } CHRIS [62-190/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0127 Date:10/14/90 Time:19:00From: CHRISTOPHER LEETo: MICHAEL } E. SCHMIDTSubject: ATARI TOUCH TABLET (Msg #0124)HELLO, I HAVE A SLIGHTLY USED ONE FORSALE OH, AROUND $15 WITH THEATAR }I ARTIST CART. LET ME KNOW. THANX, CHRIS[62-190/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0128 D }ate:10/15/90 Time:23:23From: CHRIS FREEMESSERTo: ROBERT BURTTSubject: Old Atari stuff... (Msg #0123)You can get a 1450X }LD motherboard from Best Electronics. As for theother stuff, the 1400Xl was never released, even to developers.A few 1090s !} got out, but I can't see why you would want one. No realuse for the thing. =cf=[62-190/+] Command [? for Help] >N}M "}sg #0129 Date:10/16/90 Time:21:32From: SYSOP RONTo: PRENTICE O.DURDENSubject: Monitors (Msg #0122)POD,$5 S/H/I is for #} packages under one pound... plus $3 for Blue. The monitor wasabout 20 pounds, insured for $200 (replacement cost) and I'm n $}ot sure what theBLUE added to the price. Sorry it was more than you expected... I'll try tomake it up to you in the future. %} Be Well,Ron[62-190/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0130 Date:10/16/90 Time:21:37From: SYSOP RONTo: ROBERT BURTT &}Subject: Old Atari stuff... (Msg #0123)Rob,I might be able to locate a 1450 fully modified with a US+ and a 320K upgrade. '}I KNOW the guy wouldn't take less than $450 (if that) because we just chargedhim $300 to do the work. Be Well,Ron[62-19 (}0/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0131 Date:10/16/90 Time:21:40From: SYSOP RONTo: MICHAEL E. SCHMIDTSubject: ATARI TO )}UCH TABLET (Msg #0124)I think we have one cheap. I'll look. Be Well,Ron[62-190/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0132 *} Date:10/16/90 Time:21:42From: SYSOP RONTo: BILL TARTSubject: Remote keyboard Kit (Msg #0125)Bill, I haven't tried it +}but it should work. At the worst, you sould be abe toset the Macros to respond. Be Well,Ron[62-190/+] Command [? for He ,}lp] >N}Msg #0133 Date:10/16/90 Time:22:11From: RAMON F. RUSSETo: MICHAEL E. SCHMIDTSubject: ATARI TOUCH TABLET (Msg # -}0124)How much are you willing to pay? AMerican Techna-Vision in CA has 'em for about$79 new. That's where I got mine!Take .} care, Ramon.[62-190/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0134 Date:10/16/90 Time:23:02From: PRENTICE O.DURDENTo: SYSOP R /}ONSubject: Monitors (Msg #0129)Well no problem,this 80 column Magnavox is what I've needed for a long time. Ithought I go 0}t stiffed by UPS cause they say Blue Lable is 3.00 extra but I amhappy with my monitor(the eyes say thanks too:) Somewhat u 1}nrelated but do youknow if the Sony drive mech can handle igh Density 3.5 read/write? I know howthe disk is modifyed but do 2}n't know if the mech can acknowledge it.[62-190/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0135 Date:10/16/90 Time:23:06From: PR 3}ENTICE O.DURDENTo: SYSOP RONSubject: ATARI TOUCH TABLET (Msg #0131)I might could use one too,I know I can use an Action! 4}cart with mabual ifanybody has one.[62-190/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0136 Date:10/18/90 Time:00:37From: ROBERT 5} BURTTTo: CHRISTOPHER LEESubject: Old Atari stuff... (Msg #0126)I'm sure they will be HAPPY to give you one. Almost had o 6}ne but was abouttwo years too late. Good luck! Robert Burtt[62-190/+] 7}Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0137 Date:10/18/90 Time:00:40From: ROBERT BURTTTo: CHRIS FREEMESSERSubject: Old Atari st 8}uff... (Msg #0128)Best no longer has the 1450 motherboards, and the 1090's just seem neat, Icollect old Atari stuff. 9} Robert Burtt[62-190/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0138 Date:10/19/90 :} Time:12:30From: SYSOP RONTo: PRENTICE O.DURDENSubject: Monitors (Msg #0134)POD,Your riht about the $3 Blue Lable char ;}ge but thats for 1 pound or less. I sentyou the UPS price sheet. I think you can see that we probably even subsidisedpart o <}f the shipping expense. The Sony was designed to handle 720K. Be Well,Ron[62-190/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #01 =}39 Date:10/20/90 Time:00:29From: PRENTICE O.DURDENTo: SYSOP RONSubject: Monitors (Msg #0138)Yeah,I got the list today. >} Can you believe it? I was only allowing 1 pound forthe monitors shipping weight,only an Atarist could overlook something th ?}atobvious huh? Thanks for not yelling and I am happy with my monitor,and theshipping costs too.[62-190/+] Command [? for @}Help] >N}Msg #0140 Date:10/21/90 Time:14:08From: BILL TARTTo: CHRISTOPHER LEESubject: ATARI TOUCH TABLET (Msg #0127) A}I'LL buy it!![62-190/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0141 Date:10/23/90 Time:01:13From: ABSENT MINDED PROF.To: ALL B}Subject: For Sale!For Sale: Marcy POWER bench, 310lb. olympic set, olympic curl bar, 110lb. normal set,with dumbell, bar C}bell, extra dubells, plastic with screw-on collars (realgood), and all the extras (belt, etc) **$500** Atari 800xl 64k $ D}40, 800xl 256k $100, 1050 double/us speed $75, 810 witharchiver $40, XF551 (project one, no chip or mech) $75, Indus GT (nee E}ds workand new chip) $30, 400 with 64k $35, Eprom programmer $50 Leave mail if interested in any, will sell whole thing fo F}r $400!!![62-190/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0142 Date:10/23/90 Time:01:17From: ABSENT MINDED PROF.To: ALLSubje G}ct: WANTED!520 or 1040, Color Monitor. Want both. Leave mail if you have one for sale.Thanks, AMP[62-190/+] Command [? H} for Help] >N}Msg #0143 Date:10/24/90 Time:19:32From: JAMES HARPERTo: ALLSubject: ICD MIOI'm looking to buy an ICD I}MIO,wonder if anyone has one for sale, if so, how much?Leave E-Mail [62-190/+] Command [? for Help] >N}Msg #0144 Dat J}e:10/24/90 Time:22:10From: SYSOP RONTo: JAMES HARPERSubject: ICD MIO (Msg #0143)Jim, Boy , you sure came to the right p K}lace with your request. I've got acouple of people that have been chomping at the bit to sell their MIO so theycan get a Bl L}ack Box. Leave me your phone number (daytime and home) and I'llhave them call you within 24 to 48 hours. I'm sure the price M}will be VERYreasonable! Be Well,RonSorry, your time has expired!!~Thank you for calling... CCCCCCC SSS N}SSSS SSSSSSS C S S Product C SSSSSSS SSSSSSS Support O} C S S Bulletin Board! CCCCCCC SSSSSSS SSSSSSS Please call a P}gain soon!PUFF BBS II Alpha-Test (C) 1991 Robert Puff gIEdg'#^*ENO CARRIER SSSSSSS Please call aS